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9try
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Doug Ford did not permit ski hill to remain open during the recently announced lockdown, Effectively destroying a good chunk of the smaller hills season. How is skiing allowed but ice rinks are allowed to remain open but ski hill is not? Here is a list of outdoor recreation activities that will remain open



Parks and recreational areas
Baseball diamonds
Batting cages
Soccer, football and sports fields
Tennis, platform tennis, table tennis, and pickleball courts
Basketball courts
BMX parks
Skate parks
Golf courses and driving ranges
Frisbee golf locations
Cycling tracks and bike trails
Horse riding facilities
Shooting ranges, including those operated by rod and gun clubs
Ice rinks
Snowmobile, cross country, dogsledding, ice-skating and snow-shoe trails
Playgrounds
Portions of parks or recreational areas containing outdoor fitness equipment
Tobogganing hills and skating trails


**Update: If you are looking to send an Email to your local MPP this website really simplifies it.

https://www.saveourskiing.ca/

**This thread was edited on Dec 23rd, 2020 at 12:04:15am

**This thread was edited on Dec 23rd 2020 at 12:04:52am
Dec 21 2020 4:26PM
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trawdog
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9tryDoug Ford did not permit ski hill to remain open during the recently announced lockdown, Effectively destroying a good chunk of the smaller hills season. How is skiing allowed but ice rinks are allowed to remain open but ski hill is not? Here is a list of outdoor recreation activities that will remain open



Parks and recreational areas
Baseball diamonds
Batting cages
Soccer, football and sports fields
Tennis, platform tennis, table tennis, and pickleball courts
Basketball courts
BMX parks
Skate parks
Golf courses and driving ranges
Frisbee golf locations
Cycling tracks and bike trails
Horse riding facilities
Shooting ranges, including those operated by rod and gun clubs
Ice rinks
Snowmobile, cross country, dogsledding, ice-skating and snow-shoe trails
Playgrounds
Portions of parks or recreational areas containing outdoor fitness equipment
Tobogganing hills and skating trails

**This thread was edited on Dec 21st 2020 at 4:31:04pm

For real thats some bs
Dec 21 2020 4:55PM
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CowboySkibop
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woah fuck that, you should overthrow the government..

With the necessary precautions, what makes skiing any different than any of the listed activities
Dec 21 2020 5:00PM
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JmckR
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Frisbee golf sounds pretty chill though
Dec 21 2020 5:03PM
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Eb71
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It's the big hills like Blue mountain because people from Toronto go to them. They should just not let people leave the region's.
9tryDoug Ford did not permit ski hill to remain open during the recently announced lockdown, Effectively destroying a good chunk of the smaller hills season. How is skiing allowed but ice rinks are allowed to remain open but ski hill is not? Here is a list of outdoor recreation activities that will remain open



Parks and recreational areas
Baseball diamonds
Batting cages
Soccer, football and sports fields
Tennis, platform tennis, table tennis, and pickleball courts
Basketball courts
BMX parks
Skate parks
Golf courses and driving ranges
Frisbee golf locations
Cycling tracks and bike trails
Horse riding facilities
Shooting ranges, including those operated by rod and gun clubs
Ice rinks
Snowmobile, cross country, dogsledding, ice-skating and snow-shoe trails
Playgrounds
Portions of parks or recreational areas containing outdoor fitness equipment
Tobogganing hills and skating trails

**This thread was edited on Dec 21st 2020 at 4:31:04pm
Dec 21 2020 5:11PM
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9try
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Eb71It's the big hills like Blue mountain because people from Toronto go to them. They should just not let people leave the region's.


I 100% agree. If rinks are allowed to stay open Resorts should be allowed to stay open. A Rink is an enclosed space.
Dec 21 2020 5:24PM
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Eb71
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9tryI 100% agree. If rinks are allowed to stay open Resorts should be allowed to stay open. A Rink is an enclosed space.

Exactly and at least my resort was pretty distanced and everyone wore masks
Dec 21 2020 5:33PM
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SkierPT
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Is MSLM in Ontario ??
Dec 21 2020 5:34PM
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Eb71
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SkierPTIs MSLM in Ontario ??


Yeah
Dec 21 2020 5:35PM
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swagmasterflex
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9tryDoug Ford did not permit ski hill to remain open during the recently announced lockdown, Effectively destroying a good chunk of the smaller hills season. How is skiing allowed but ice rinks are allowed to remain open but ski hill is not? Here is a list of outdoor recreation activities that will remain open



Parks and recreational areas
Baseball diamonds
Batting cages
Soccer, football and sports fields
Tennis, platform tennis, table tennis, and pickleball courts
Basketball courts
BMX parks
Skate parks
Golf courses and driving ranges
Frisbee golf locations
Cycling tracks and bike trails
Horse riding facilities
Shooting ranges, including those operated by rod and gun clubs
Ice rinks
Snowmobile, cross country, dogsledding, ice-skating and snow-shoe trails
Playgrounds
Portions of parks or recreational areas containing outdoor fitness equipment
Tobogganing hills and skating trails

**This thread was edited on Dec 21st 2020 at 4:31:04pm


Send this to the mayor, governor, the king, idk whatever they got in Canada just send this list to them
Dec 21 2020 5:45PM
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r00kie
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If the hills have a plan in place to enforce distancing, keep things clean and masked inside, and limit guests as needed within reason the government should leave them alone. If I lived an Ontario I would finding when and where the next lockdown protest is. Can't help but know this is what is coming for the states as well.
Dec 21 2020 5:52PM
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SkierPT
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Eb71Yeah


Brutal...so sorry guys
Dec 21 2020 6:06PM
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johnoble
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Frisbee golf is chill until you spend 2 hours looking for the disc u launched into a snowy field
TheMailManFrisbee golf sounds pretty chill though
Dec 21 2020 7:27PM
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SuckleBrick
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yet CostCo and Walmart stay open with hardly anyone doing any safe social distancing.......
Dec 21 2020 7:35PM
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SuckleBrick
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And what has he done for the long term care homes???
Dec 21 2020 7:35PM
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matt.donald42
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Might be a futile effort, but below is the first official online petition I've seen crop up to challenge the closure of ski hills. Not hanging on hope that this will affect any real change, but takes 2 seconds sign and you never know

https://www.change.org/p/doug-ford-allow-ski-hills-to-operate-during-ontario-lockdown?recruiter=1087282011&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=psf_combo_share_initial&utm_term=share_petition&recruited_by_id=96387b90-911b-11ea-9df9-93786f5d0684
Dec 21 2020 8:15PM
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SendyMcSendyface
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If anyone from Ontario wants to discuss making some fucking noise, hit me up, I'm beyond pissed that this has happened. Canadians are too damn reluctant to rock the boat, would be nice to change that. Also, for those of us in Ontario, email your fucking MPP. Seriously. Every voice counts.
Dec 21 2020 8:41PM
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Eb71
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Will resorts let you hike
Dec 21 2020 8:57PM
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SendyMcSendyface
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Eb71Will resorts let you hike


Probably not, resorts in Ontario aren't into that shit.
Dec 21 2020 9:03PM
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SkiBronJames
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9tryDoug Ford did not permit ski hill to remain open during the recently announced lockdown, Effectively destroying a good chunk of the smaller hills season. How is skiing allowed but ice rinks are allowed to remain open but ski hill is not? Here is a list of outdoor recreation activities that will remain open



Parks and recreational areas
Baseball diamonds
Batting cages
Soccer, football and sports fields
Tennis, platform tennis, table tennis, and pickleball courts
Basketball courts
BMX parks
Skate parks
Golf courses and driving ranges
Frisbee golf locations
Cycling tracks and bike trails
Horse riding facilities
Shooting ranges, including those operated by rod and gun clubs
Ice rinks
Snowmobile, cross country, dogsledding, ice-skating and snow-shoe trails
Playgrounds
Portions of parks or recreational areas containing outdoor fitness equipment
Tobogganing hills and skating trails

**This thread was edited on Dec 21st 2020 at 4:31:04pm


Doug Ford rly out here running the fun for everyone
Dec 21 2020 10:20PM
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Fancy_Latte
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I just hope we are actually back by the end of the January. It can always get worse.
hmu if your near mslm or horseshoe im setting up a rail or two
Dec 21 2020 11:01PM
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johnoble
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Headed to dagmar Wednesday to get at least one day in before stuff shuts down, apparently they have a park of some sort set up. I was at jay closing day in the spring and i have a feeling the vibes gonna be similar, just a resigned sadness at the loss of some stoke filled days
Dec 21 2020 11:13PM
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Bdoobz
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Not only does this ruin my season, but also my employment. I can deal with the loss since it’s more of a side gig but I’m gutted for my boss
Dec 21 2020 11:32PM
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Drail
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Is 'beer league' hockey still allowed at ice rinks in Ontario? If so, I find that interesting because here in BC our ski hills are currently allowed to remain open, but ice rinks are closed to all recreational activities. The ice is in and higher level organized teams are allowed, but rec hockey is out.
Dec 21 2020 11:47PM
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Drail
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You can isolate southern Ontario from northern, but the logistics of keeping the GTA from going up to Collingwood for a Saturday is impossible.
Eb71It's the big hills like Blue mountain because people from Toronto go to them. They should just not let people leave the region's.
Dec 21 2020 11:50PM
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Celery
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You've got a good point
TheMailManFrisbee golf sounds pretty chill though
Dec 22 2020 6:35AM
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Eb71
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johnobleHeaded to dagmar Wednesday to get at least one day in before stuff shuts down, apparently they have a park of some sort set up. I was at jay closing day in the spring and i have a feeling the vibes gonna be similar, just a resigned sadness at the loss of some stoke filled days


Dagmars park is pretty good for opening weekend
Dec 22 2020 8:05AM
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corona
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Dougies just mad he's too fat to ski.

Seriously though, the blow-up indoor soccer fields are allowed to stay open but not ski resorts that were already limiting chair rides to people from the same household + mandating masks + all indoor areas closed except for washroom? That's insane and makes no sense at all. The risk is practically zero. Yet I can still go stand in line with 50 people buying Christmas lights at Walmart (but can't go buy them at a small locally owned store that does a far better job at managing covid risk).

I wouldn't be mad if the rules weren't so completely nonsensical and ridiculous.
Dec 22 2020 10:42AM
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johnoble
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Someone mentioned it above, but the real reason ski hills got closed isn’t because the activity is inherently dangerous. Its since rich fucks from Toronto will go to wherever they want to ski, primarily collingwood, and spread covid to places where covid is still at low levels. If there ever was a time where a “locals only” mentality was deserved, its right now. Unfortunately, there realistically isnt a way to confirm if someone is a local, and even if there was, what is included in that definition. My “local” hill is brimacombe, but i know that plenty of lakeshore people are as close or closer. Plus there are places like sir sams, where there are very few true locals, but plenty of cottagers would consider themselves locals, despite splitting time between the gta and that cottage. A similar situation to blue, but blue has a larger true local population. Realistically Ontarios big problem is movement from large urban centres to smaller urban centers and rural areas, but since the shots are called by said urban areas, a full lockdown of Toronto/Hamilton/ottawa will never happen, and shutting ski hills is a way to limit some of that travel. We can all call mps and try to make a difference, but until some of dougies big donors start making a fuss about not being able to go ski when they go to the cottage, we’re gonna be stuck hiking rails.

Side tangent, i know several if my friends families are renting chalets in Quebec for Christmas break, since Quebec isn’t including ski hills in their lockdown. Kinda spoils the point of trying to prevent travel.
Dec 22 2020 12:00PM
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rubberpantaloons
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Go to quebec hooligans
Dec 22 2020 12:03PM
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Vino
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You won't have much more fun in Quebec.
Ticket sales are restricted, lift lines are insanely long cause of the restrictions.

For Ontario's skiing, I don't see why they don't look at what have been done here so far in our "redzone"
Dec 22 2020 3:03PM
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itzPebbs
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9tryDoug Ford did not permit ski hill to remain open during the recently announced lockdown, Effectively destroying a good chunk of the smaller hills season. How is skiing allowed but ice rinks are allowed to remain open but ski hill is not? Here is a list of outdoor recreation activities that will remain open



Parks and recreational areas
Baseball diamonds
Batting cages
Soccer, football and sports fields
Tennis, platform tennis, table tennis, and pickleball courts
Basketball courts
BMX parks
Skate parks
Golf courses and driving ranges
Frisbee golf locations
Cycling tracks and bike trails
Horse riding facilities
Shooting ranges, including those operated by rod and gun clubs
Ice rinks
Snowmobile, cross country, dogsledding, ice-skating and snow-shoe trails
Playgrounds
Portions of parks or recreational areas containing outdoor fitness equipment
Tobogganing hills and skating trails

**This thread was edited on Dec 21st 2020 at 4:31:04pm

hike that shit fuck em
Dec 22 2020 3:06PM
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SendyMcSendyface
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johnobleSomeone mentioned it above, but the real reason ski hills got closed isn’t because the activity is inherently dangerous. Its since rich fucks from Toronto will go to wherever they want to ski, primarily collingwood, and spread covid to places where covid is still at low levels. If there ever was a time where a “locals only” mentality was deserved, its right now. Unfortunately, there realistically isnt a way to confirm if someone is a local, and even if there was, what is included in that definition. My “local” hill is brimacombe, but i know that plenty of lakeshore people are as close or closer. Plus there are places like sir sams, where there are very few true locals, but plenty of cottagers would consider themselves locals, despite splitting time between the gta and that cottage. A similar situation to blue, but blue has a larger true local population. Realistically Ontarios big problem is movement from large urban centres to smaller urban centers and rural areas, but since the shots are called by said urban areas, a full lockdown of Toronto/Hamilton/ottawa will never happen, and shutting ski hills is a way to limit some of that travel. We can all call mps and try to make a difference, but until some of dougies big donors start making a fuss about not being able to go ski when they go to the cottage, we’re gonna be stuck hiking rails.

Side tangent, i know several if my friends families are renting chalets in Quebec for Christmas break, since Quebec isn’t including ski hills in their lockdown. Kinda spoils the point of trying to prevent travel.


Yup, this is probably part of it. From what I’ve heard at work today, Blue has been a shitshow the past couple of days, and they weren’t regulating guests/guest numbers as much as they should, so thats probably what prompted this. I know the hills are all brewing up a big shitstorm for Ford, so best case, we can ski in 2 weeks instead of 4.
Dec 22 2020 3:36PM
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BigLou
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Sounds like a massive gyp.

But remember, free to ski tour as much as you like.
9tryDoug Ford did not permit ski hill to remain open during the recently announced lockdown, Effectively destroying a good chunk of the smaller hills season. How is skiing allowed but ice rinks are allowed to remain open but ski hill is not? Here is a list of outdoor recreation activities that will remain open



Parks and recreational areas
Baseball diamonds
Batting cages
Soccer, football and sports fields
Tennis, platform tennis, table tennis, and pickleball courts
Basketball courts
BMX parks
Skate parks
Golf courses and driving ranges
Frisbee golf locations
Cycling tracks and bike trails
Horse riding facilities
Shooting ranges, including those operated by rod and gun clubs
Ice rinks
Snowmobile, cross country, dogsledding, ice-skating and snow-shoe trails
Playgrounds
Portions of parks or recreational areas containing outdoor fitness equipment
Tobogganing hills and skating trails

**This thread was edited on Dec 21st 2020 at 4:31:04pm
Dec 22 2020 4:09PM
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CalumSKI
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9tryDoug Ford did not permit ski hill to remain open during the recently announced lockdown, Effectively destroying a good chunk of the smaller hills season. How is skiing allowed but ice rinks are allowed to remain open but ski hill is not? Here is a list of outdoor recreation activities that will remain open



Parks and recreational areas
Baseball diamonds
Batting cages
Soccer, football and sports fields
Tennis, platform tennis, table tennis, and pickleball courts
Basketball courts
BMX parks
Skate parks
Golf courses and driving ranges
Frisbee golf locations
Cycling tracks and bike trails
Horse riding facilities
Shooting ranges, including those operated by rod and gun clubs
Ice rinks
Snowmobile, cross country, dogsledding, ice-skating and snow-shoe trails
Playgrounds
Portions of parks or recreational areas containing outdoor fitness equipment
Tobogganing hills and skating trails

**This thread was edited on Dec 21st 2020 at 4:31:04pm


real shit though
over half of the stuff listed on that list doesnt run in the winter
Dec 22 2020 4:10PM
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johnoble
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How bad is qc right now? I came home from school just before places in the south opened up and was hoping that i could still have a season when i go back in January.
VinoYou won't have much more fun in Quebec.
Ticket sales are restricted, lift lines are insanely long cause of the restrictions.

For Ontario's skiing, I don't see why they don't look at what have been done here so far in our "redzone"
Dec 22 2020 4:35PM
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CalumSKI
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johnobleHow bad is qc right now? I came home from school just before places in the south opened up and was hoping that i could still have a season when i go back in January.


wya in quebec?
Dec 22 2020 4:43PM
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johnoble
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Southern, orford is where i have a szn pass this year. But sutton, brome, owls head are all options too, plus this season probably doing some light touring stuff near the border
CalumSKIwya in quebec?
Dec 22 2020 5:19PM
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Roumarin
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rubberpantaloonsGo to quebec hooligans

Stay on your side... Don't ruin the season for everybody.
But you should just get into touring, as simple as that!
Dec 22 2020 5:51PM
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TBONE902
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We can't be having these WILD ski parties
Dec 22 2020 7:02PM
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iced
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RoumarinStay on your side... Don't ruin the season for everybody.
But you should just get into touring, as simple as that!


this guy has never been to Ontario
Dec 22 2020 7:08PM
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SendyMcSendyface
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icedthis guy has never been to Ontario


Yeah really. Like theres a few spots up near Huntsville, or the soo if you're lucky and live up that way. What, am I just supposed to skin up the staggering 75' of slope on my local dam? Guess its backyard setup season, unless the government decides to change its stance.
Dec 22 2020 8:32PM
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iced
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SendyMcSendyfaceYeah really. Like theres a few spots up near Huntsville, or the soo if you're lucky and live up that way. What, am I just supposed to skin up the staggering 75' of slope on my local dam? Guess its backyard setup season, unless the government decides to change its stance.


"starting January 23rd, we are pleased to announce the reopening of schools across Ontario, alongside the closing of any and all backyard ski setups, in an effort to continue our war on rational decision making"
Dec 22 2020 9:29PM
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Poikenz
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DrailIs 'beer league' hockey still allowed at ice rinks in Ontario? If so, I find that interesting because here in BC our ski hills are currently allowed to remain open, but ice rinks are closed to all recreational activities. The ice is in and higher level organized teams are allowed, but rec hockey is out.

Only outdoor rinks are open, no organized hockey. And let me tell you, as someone who lives next to an outdoor rink, you're going to catch some shit there if anywhere. Fucking packed harder than wally world, bunch of snotty nosed kids and no masks because it's okay if you are outside.
johnobleSide tangent, i know several if my friends families are renting chalets in Quebec for Christmas break, since Quebec isn’t including ski hills in their lockdown. Kinda spoils the point of trying to prevent travel.

For those who live in Ottawa their local is a 5-10 minute drive into Quebec, so of course people are still going to go there. Funny that some people feel the lockdown was put in place so people from Quebec won't come to Ontario and now the opposite will be happening.
Dec 22 2020 9:53PM
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freestyler540
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I feel for ya OP. Already that Ontario doesnt get much snow and the seasons are short. I hope it snows and the Urban will be good
Dec 22 2020 9:59PM
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johnoble
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Oh of course, no one expects ottawa people to drive to pakenham instead of just skiing fortune, im talking central Ontario going to tremb/les sommets
PoikenzOnly outdoor rinks are open, no organized hockey. And let me tell you, as someone who lives next to an outdoor rink, you're going to catch some shit there if anywhere. Fucking packed harder than wally world, bunch of snotty nosed kids and no masks because it's okay if you are outside.

For those who live in Ottawa their local is a 5-10 minute drive into Quebec, so of course people are still going to go there. Funny that some people feel the lockdown was put in place so people from Quebec won't come to Ontario and now the opposite will be happening.
Dec 22 2020 10:31PM
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Roumarin
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SendyMcSendyfaceYeah really. Like theres a few spots up near Huntsville, or the soo if you're lucky and live up that way. What, am I just supposed to skin up the staggering 75' of slope on my local dam? Guess its backyard setup season, unless the government decides to change its stance.


Never thought it was that flat in Ontario. But to be fair, Quebec isn’t that much better. Every ski hill thats open is flooded with people, so snow conditions are always shitty anyway. In the laurentians, everything was still open about 2 weeks ago because there was very few covid cases, but with the tourists coming in since the season started, everything had to close... hope ski hills aren’t next!
Dec 22 2020 10:40PM
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Stuuuuuuuuuu
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RoumarinStay on your side... Don't ruin the season for everybody.
But you should just get into touring, as simple as that!


Theres a couple ok touring spots around Collingwood. probably about 3 days a season with enough snow for it though. My buddy that works in a ski shop near blue told me that they've been selling tons of touring gear to people who have no clue what they're buying though. Apparently multiple people in the last week have bought full setups with tech boots/bindings and then not known that they needed skins.
Dec 22 2020 10:46PM
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Roumarin
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StuuuuuuuuuuTheres a couple ok touring spots around Collingwood. probably about 3 days a season with enough snow for it though. My buddy that works in a ski shop near blue told me that they've been selling tons of touring gear to people who have no clue what they're buying though. Apparently multiple people in the last week have bought full setups with tech boots/bindings and then not known that they needed skins.


Many touring bindings/skins/boots have been B/O for a while now... really took everybody by surprise
Dec 22 2020 11:38PM
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9try
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SendyMcSendyfaceIf anyone from Ontario wants to discuss making some fucking noise, hit me up, I'm beyond pissed that this has happened. Canadians are too damn reluctant to rock the boat, would be nice to change that. Also, for those of us in Ontario, email your fucking MPP. Seriously. Every voice counts.


https://www.saveourskiing.ca/
Dec 23 2020 1:03AM
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CalumSKI
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johnobleSouthern, orford is where i have a szn pass this year. But sutton, brome, owls head are all options too, plus this season probably doing some light touring stuff near the border


I haven’t been over there yet, but places like tremblant are pretty easy to buy tickets for in my experience this season at least
Dec 23 2020 8:15AM
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