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MarkusFinConcussions aren't the only form of head trauma?
You're trying to argue agains't facts that helmets in fact do reduce blunt force trauma to the head, as well as help even out the area of impact, which can be very small if you hit your head on a rail, ski, or anything along those lines.
This is just a fucking stupid position by you to take..
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/938664/I-Love-Helmets
relevant
eheathI treat people as they treat me, I'm completely nice, and I would argue helpful, with people who aren't negative to me first.
Also, that dude is a troll, again im a completely reasonable and companionate person towards normal members, huge difference here.
MarkusFinYeah I'm a troll for arguing against people who say helmets are useless. There was no way for me to know that you were arguing for helmets and not against before you edited your comment. But take the high ground after editing the comment, that's cool too.
moist_velvetI got a pretty bad concussion a couple of years ago (wearing a helmet). ended up going to a concussion specialist that had a lot of interesting info. helmets do basically nothing for a concussion. helmets' purpose is to stop your skull from cracking.
eheathIght bro I was never a dick to you so that comment had nothing to do with you, you can keep trying to give me shit for editing my post but you're just deflecting, why I don't know, I never attacked you, you called me out, you got this all backwards brother.
Bended_ToenailImo wearing a helmet when skiing is optional, but I almost always do.
However, it is super dumb to not wear a helmet when skating/bmx, exhibit A:
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/961886/BMX---Stevie-Churchill---Brandon-Begin-at-El-Toro
(4:30)
SendyMcSendyfaceI've always worn helmets, but last year decided to give the no helmet thing a try. Rode Targhee without for a few days, and really liked it. Got up one morning to go ski, and for some reason decided to wear one. Later that day, I was ripping through some trees, and hit a kicker beside a tree that I hadn't hit/seen before. Above, and a little bit behind the kicker was a 6" branch just above head height and my eye level that I didn't see cause I looked back to make sure the lads were watching. I came in fast, and the kicker sent me up, and my forehead (with helmet) went straight into the branch at Mach 10. Hardest hit I ever had, got ski patrol to check me out after, as I though I might be concussed. I wasn't but if I hadn't been wearing a helmet, I'd have been fucked up. Never ditching the helmet now.
HodorI don't buy the "everyone is free to do what they want" argument anymore.
Several people close to me have had their lives completely altered by head injuries. I have seen personalities change, intense depression, loss of work, financial burdens, and overall some really dark times that I would not wish on anybody. Arguments that downplay the severity of head injuries are not good for anybody or skiing.
I used to feel that individual freedom was most important, but not wearing a helmet is ultimately very selfish. If you were to hit your head and have brain injury, you are not the only one affected. Anybody near to you will be changed. Somebody will have to take care of you and that person's life will also be significantly altered. Not to mention in the US our terrible healthcare system might make it an immense financial burden. We are incredibly lucky to be able to ski. Wearing a helmet is such a tiny inconvenience.
theabortionatorI really don't get the "I'm not convinced that helmets are helpful".
CyanicenineThere is a third option beyond helmet, or no helmet. Armored beanies exist, that's what I wear. I feel like skiing is safer than the amplified horror stories we hear about would have you believe. If I was hitting my head on the regular then I'd for sure invest in a good helmet. It's good that the people that are hitting their heads more than never are deciding to helmet up, but I don't judge anyone for wearing one, not wearing one, or choosing a compromise like an armored beanie. The times when people have tried to legislate helmet use for skiing it hasn't gone through because the science just isn't clear cut that they do a significant amount to reduce concussion or TBI (caused from your brain slamming against the inside of your skull). If the evidence was there that helmets overwhelmingly saved lives and reduced concussions then you better believe helmets would've been made law in the same way that seat belts are. The reason there is no helmet mandate in skiing is because the science isn't clear and you have to have evidence to make something like that the law. This might change as helmet tech gets better, but for now that's where we are. Wear a helmet or don't, it's a personal choice. This is the kind of beanie I'm talking about
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/980636/Smack-Me-On-The-Head-With-A-Shovel-
theabortionatorIdk about that though. Helmets aren't just a hard piece of plastic against your skull. That foam flexes and cracks and your head stopping is less sudden. How much of an impact idk.
I've broken a helmet in half, and have cracked another one pretty good. I highly doubt that that didn't have an impact outside of keeping my skull intact.
Even the difference between softer snow and ice makes a difference.
Helmets don't keep you from injuring your brain but i feel it's kind of bullshit when people act like they do nothing.
moist_velvetyeah, I still wear a helmet 90% of the time. I wish I could remember better what the doctor said (no irony intended) but from what I can remember she was telling me that when you get a concussion it is not your brain moving around in or hitting the side of your skull it is a neurological surge that goes through your brain.
eheathI don't think I've ever heard or seen anyone make this argument. Everyone knows they're helpful, that doesn't mean one chooses to wear one.
ChillTeenDad420I made that argument on page 1 of this thread. There are studies out there about helmets in snowsports and they're frustratingly inconclusive
eheathIdk man, I don't think anyone needs a conclusive study to wear a helmet, thats a silly reason.
pbsJust moved down to SLC from Washington. Have been up to “Alta park” and the bonezone and I was the only one wearing a helmet at either spot. I completely understand that not wearing a helmet feels good and looks better, yet for me that doesn’t out weight the risk of getting a head injury. Maybe I slam more than normal or maybe I’m a pussy? idk helmets just seem more common in WA. Any folks that have been here longer got any ideas?
itzPebbsIf you decide not to wear a helmet because everyone else isn’t wearing one you might have already received a brain injury
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itzPebbsIf you decide not to wear a helmet because everyone else isn’t wearing one you might have already received a brain injury
TwirlJamGot a gnarly concussion with a helmet up in Whistler a couple years ago. I wear them almost always now, but I also thought it was a great idea to have a couple drinks later that night and I know that didn’t help. Saw a buddy crack one on a tree once in HS and the impact that requires is gnarly. That being said I still will occasionally forgo them on warm spring days. It all comes down to what your risk tolerance is. Don’t wear if you don’t want. Wear if you do. Personally I’m fine being a dumbass some days but I acknowledge it. I don’t really give a shit about dying, but living without full function or cognitive ability is way scarier. That alone is enough to keep a helmet (mostly) on my head.
ChillTeenDad420I made that argument on page 1 of this thread. There are studies out there about helmets in snowsports and they're frustratingly inconclusive
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