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Sea to Sky gondola was cut.. again

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corona
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Someone cut the cable on the Sea to Sky gondola again. Sounds like they have video footage of the person doing it this time..


https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/sea-to-sky-gondola-vandalism-2020-1.5723042
Sep 14 2020 12:57PM
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T.L.
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CatdickBojanglesPortable band saws are pretty slow and require you to be pretty steady to get a good cut, I feel like a cut off or a grinder would be the only way. The heat of the bandsaw blade would be too much too and most likely kick the blade.


I use one just about every day I'm in my shop at work. They're as fast as you need them to be and are not difficult to keep straight. The weight of the tool itself is what helps the cut. There is no blade heat issue unless you're cutting solid rod and at that point you just dial down the speed and it might take a few extra seconds to get through your cut.

I've literally used them to cut pieces of old haul ropes for various projects. Even one up to like 3" diameter would only take a minute or two.
Sep 20 2020 10:46AM
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CatdickBojangles
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T.L.I use one just about every day I'm in my shop at work. They're as fast as you need them to be and are not difficult to keep straight. The weight of the tool itself is what helps the cut. There is no blade heat issue unless you're cutting solid rod and at that point you just dial down the speed and it might take a few extra seconds to get through your cut.

I've literally used them to cut pieces of old haul ropes for various projects. Even one up to like 3" diameter would only take a minute or two.


Gotcha I’ve used them to cut 4 inch rigid conduit and it cuts like butter. I wasn’t sure how it would do on a tensioned cable.
Sep 20 2020 11:02AM
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VT_scratch
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$250,000 up for grabs for anyone with info leading to the arrest and conviction... time to become a private eye
Sep 25 2020 8:08PM
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gravel
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T.L.I use one just about every day I'm in my shop at work. They're as fast as you need them to be and are not difficult to keep straight. The weight of the tool itself is what helps the cut. There is no blade heat issue unless you're cutting solid rod and at that point you just dial down the speed and it might take a few extra seconds to get through your cut.

I've literally used them to cut pieces of old haul ropes for various projects. Even one up to like 3" diameter would only take a minute or two.


damn, that's insane. regardless of how well that tool could cut through a cable, wouldn't you have a serious issue anyway when you're halfway through the braided cable and the remaining, uncut cable fails under the load concentration? i feel like you would have to have some remote cutter or a delayed chemical reaction to do this without killing yourself in the process.
Sep 25 2020 9:19PM
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hi_vis360
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I've been discussing this a lot with the guys at work, we use pretty much all of the tools discussed so far in this thread. Our conclusion today was that the easiest/safest way to do this would be with a backpack style acetylene torch. I think you could do it easily with a grinder but that would require you to be right next to the cable, and one of those portable band saws would be even worse. An acetylene torch would cause that cable to fail pretty quickly and you could keep your distance as well.
Sep 25 2020 9:32PM
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d00d
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The mechanical insight from this thread is incredible. Highly invested as to if they ever announce the technique that was used. I just can't imagine the balls on the person that did this or being the eyes watching it go down two times. Fucked up the amount of damage, but amazing at the same time. Wonder how much additional security will be involved after this one. Gonna be fort knox over there.

**This post was edited on Sep 25th 2020 at 10:34:40pm
Sep 25 2020 10:31PM
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gravel
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pinkcamo1000I've been discussing this a lot with the guys at work, we use pretty much all of the tools discussed so far in this thread. Our conclusion today was that the easiest/safest way to do this would be with a backpack style acetylene torch. I think you could do it easily with a grinder but that would require you to be right next to the cable, and one of those portable band saws would be even worse. An acetylene torch would cause that cable to fail pretty quickly and you could keep your distance as well.


how far away could you be with an acetylene torch?
Sep 25 2020 10:34PM
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ReturnToMonkey
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d00dThe mechanical insight from this thread is incredible. Highly invested as to if they ever announce the technique that was used.

Well many skiers support our addiction with manual labor throughout the year, much of which utilizes all of these tools. So it makes sense. I wanna find out if they ever catch the guy and get justice
Sep 25 2020 10:35PM
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T.L.
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pinkcamo1000I've been discussing this a lot with the guys at work, we use pretty much all of the tools discussed so far in this thread. Our conclusion today was that the easiest/safest way to do this would be with a backpack style acetylene torch. I think you could do it easily with a grinder but that would require you to be right next to the cable, and one of those portable band saws would be even worse. An acetylene torch would cause that cable to fail pretty quickly and you could keep your distance as well.


For sure. A mini acetylene torch kit would make super quick work of it. The only thing a smart person would worry about is the slag igniting the brush at the bottom of the tower which is your only exit. If it was high enough I guess it could cool on the way down and make little slag bb's the way a shot tower works.

Either way, I don't expect to find out what was used to cut it as that might create copy cat fuckers who could do this all over the place.
Sep 25 2020 10:51PM
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TheMoostafian
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I have a few husqvarna hot saws that would go through one of those cables in about 10 seconds. Then, I assume, the snapping cable would go through my spine in about .0001 seconds.
Sep 27 2020 11:25AM
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VT_scratch$250,000 up for grabs for anyone with info leading to the arrest and conviction... time to become a private eye


Narc paradise
Sep 27 2020 2:44PM
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DrZoidberg
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Reading through this thread I'm sitting here wondering if they dude thermited it? I don't see how you'd cut a cable like that if it's under load, unless he did something to prevent it from snapping and cutting him in half prior to cutting it. That being said I don't see how one could thermite it and not start a forest fire if you just light it and run.

Edit: and now that I google the melt point of steel it seems like you'd need to do something other than ion oxides + aluminum to alumina and iron metal cause that won't get hot enough.

**This post was edited on Sep 28th 2020 at 11:21:35pm
Sep 28 2020 11:11PM
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CLQ
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DrZoidbergReading through this thread I'm sitting here wondering if they dude thermited it? I don't see how you'd cut a cable like that if it's under load, unless he did something to prevent it from snapping and cutting him in half prior to cutting it. That being said I don't see how one could thermite it and not start a forest fire if you just light it and run.

Edit: and now that I google the melt point of steel it seems like you'd need to do something other than ion oxides + aluminum to alumina and iron metal cause that won't get hot enough.

**This post was edited on Sep 28th 2020 at 11:21:35pm


You don't need to literally melt steel for the structural integrity of it to fail. See 9/11
Sep 28 2020 11:36PM
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HypeBeast
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Thermite burns at 4000F bro. Much more than needed to melt steel, let along affect the structural integrity under stress.
DrZoidbergReading through this thread I'm sitting here wondering if they dude thermited it? I don't see how you'd cut a cable like that if it's under load, unless he did something to prevent it from snapping and cutting him in half prior to cutting it. That being said I don't see how one could thermite it and not start a forest fire if you just light it and run.

Edit: and now that I google the melt point of steel it seems like you'd need to do something other than ion oxides + aluminum to alumina and iron metal cause that won't get hot enough.

**This post was edited on Sep 28th 2020 at 11:21:35pm
Sep 28 2020 11:57PM
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MiIfHunter
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I chuckled hehehehe


I kinda agree on a way with whoever cut it. Whistler has been fucking over the indigenous ppl for a long time now. Just my two cents

i also think this is funny

**This post was edited on Sep 29th 2020 at 9:55:30am
Sep 29 2020 9:52AM
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RIP_leos_shack
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The problem with ecoterrorism is that it is completely counterproductive to their goals and just requires more resources to rebuild. Like when Two Elk Lodge was burned down in the late 90s they just built it bigger.
Sep 29 2020 12:41PM
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MiIfHunter
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Well I think this is funny af lol

im howling laughing hehehe
RIP_leos_shackThe problem with ecoterrorism is that it is completely counterproductive to their goals and just requires more resources to rebuild. Like when Two Elk Lodge was burned down in the late 90s they just built it bigger.
Sep 30 2020 3:35AM
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BigPurpleSkiSuit
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Place your bets on whether or not this happens again this year. I personally think that it will.
Jun 7 2021 4:08PM
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VT_scratch
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BigPurpleSkiSuitPlace your bets on whether or not this happens again this year. I personally think that it will.


fuck I hope not. buying a pass shortly for the year. *apparently* they've hired 247 security this time..... we'll see what happens
Jun 7 2021 4:25PM
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mott
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BigPurpleSkiSuitPlace your bets on whether or not this happens again this year. I personally think that it will.


No doubt it will
Jun 9 2021 12:24AM
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Stuuuuuuuuuu
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I saw this thread got bumped and my first thought was that it happened again
Jun 9 2021 1:28AM
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skierman
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HypeBeastThermite burns at 4000F bro. Much more than needed to melt steel, let along affect the structural integrity under stress.


THERMITE CAN'T MELT STEEL CABLES!!!
Jun 9 2021 1:21PM
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WoFlowz
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I’ve got 20$ to the first person who does this at whistler in protest of Vails pass prices
Jun 9 2021 3:15PM
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TRVP_ANGEL
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WoFlowzI’ve got 20$ to the first person who does this at whistler in protest of Vails pass prices


Just so you can make 250k when you snitch the guy out to rcmp?
Jun 10 2021 2:36AM
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PacificRimJob
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HypeBeastThermite burns at 4000F bro. Much more than needed to melt steel, let along affect the structural integrity under stress.


steel fuel cant melt jet beams.
Jun 10 2021 7:34AM
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PacificRimJob
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Forreal though this is a wild fucking story, and as much as its pretty shit, I have to kinda laugh that its happened twice...
Jun 10 2021 7:35AM
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eheath
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WoFlowzI’ve got 20$ to the first person who does this at whistler in protest of Vails pass prices


The lowered the epic pass price this year so might wanna think of something else.
Jun 11 2021 1:39AM
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PacificRimJob
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eheathThe lowered the epic pass price this year so might wanna think of something else.


lol thats cute
Jun 11 2021 9:00AM
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HypeBeast
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skiermanTHERMITE CAN'T MELT STEEL CABLES!!!

You trolling or just retarded?
Jun 11 2021 5:26PM
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skierman
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HypeBeastYou trolling or just retarded?


You retarded or just ignorant?
Jun 11 2021 6:45PM
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iced
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HypeBeastYou trolling or just retarded?


skiermanYou retarded or just ignorant?



Jun 12 2021 6:44PM
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TRVP_ANGEL
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every time i see the thread title on the first page of SG i always think that they did it the third time
Jun 12 2021 9:39PM
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HypeBeast
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skiermanYou retarded or just ignorant?

I know you are but what am I?
Jun 13 2021 3:28AM
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_IRRELEVANT_
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Came here thinking it happened again left disappointed. Bet it’s gonna happen again it’s practically a tradition at this point
Jun 15 2021 9:19PM
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Skiblade420
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Poikenzjet fuel

I see what you did there
Jun 15 2021 9:59PM
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SavageBiff
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One could easily heat that bitch up with a torch and blast it with freezing cold water…SNAP all from a distance
Also a strong enough electrical arc would cut it, I cracked a track loader bucket in half a few years back when I hit a main line running into a housing development, it was fuckin awesome
Jun 15 2021 10:15PM
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corona
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On the news they were talking about how the people who were opposed to the gondola were indigenous, locals, and rock climbers. Then they were talking about how it was super confusing how someone managed to climb a tower to cut it the 2nd time since the ladders were removed. Pretty sure they could have put 2 + 2 together on that one..
Jun 16 2021 9:59PM
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PacificRimJob
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coronaOn the news they were talking about how the people who were opposed to the gondola were indigenous, locals, and rock climbers. Then they were talking about how it was super confusing how someone managed to climb a tower to cut it the 2nd time since the ladders were removed. Pretty sure they could have put 2 + 2 together on that one..

indigenous local rock climber obviously.
Jun 17 2021 1:17AM
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ReturnToMonkey
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SavageBiffOne could easily heat that bitch up with a torch and blast it with freezing cold water…SNAP all from a distance
Also a strong enough electrical arc would cut it, I cracked a track loader bucket in half a few years back when I hit a main line running into a housing development, it was fuckin awesome


Holy fuck it cracked a bucket in half? Guess you could never hit a live mainline for urban...
Jun 17 2021 1:45AM
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HuumeHippi
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ReturnToMonkeyHoly fuck it cracked a bucket in half? Guess you could never hit a live mainline for urban...

You could, just cant be touching anything else the same time
Jun 17 2021 4:37AM
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SavageBiff
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The arc took out a chunk 6” wide and cracked it the whole way thru
ReturnToMonkeyHoly fuck it cracked a bucket in half? Guess you could never hit a live mainline for urban...


Urban on a main line? Don’t some skis have rubber inserts? Should be aight, right? If not send ya for a hell of a spin, spin to win 😁 seriously could probably do it on b dogs ….
Jun 17 2021 5:47AM
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TheMoostafian
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I had to cut some wire rope in the woods today. It made me think about this thread, so I took a video of me cutting another piece. This took about 3 seconds to cut 9/16" wire rope. I'm pretty sure most gondolas use 2", meaning it could be cut in ~10.6 seconds.

Also, my saw had a stone blade, would probably go faster with an actual metal cutting wheel.


https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/1014808/20211021-144646-2-hevc-mp4
Oct 21 2021 10:08PM
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hoodratz47
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I don't think the real question is what could cut it. There is a ton of way to snap it. But how someone did it and didn't get fucking cut in half from the ends of the rope. And also the 2nd time getting away with. It's lucky that no one has been killed by all of this
TheMoostafianI had to cut some wire rope in the woods today. It made me think about this thread, so I took a video of me cutting another piece. This took about 3 seconds to cut 9/16" wire rope. I'm pretty sure most gondolas use 2", meaning it could be cut in ~10.6 seconds.

Also, my saw had a stone blade, would probably go faster with an actual metal cutting wheel.


https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/1014808/20211021-144646-2-hevc-mp4
Oct 21 2021 10:16PM
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TheMoostafian
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hoodratz47I don't think the real question is what could cut it. There is a ton of way to snap it. But how someone did it and didn't get fucking cut in half from the ends of the rope. And also the 2nd time getting away with. It's lucky that no one has been killed by all of this


Yeah fuck cutting a tensioned wire rope. That being said, now that I think about it a little more, the tension would be pulling both sides (after it's cut) directly away from you, so right at the cut would probably be the safest spot.
Oct 21 2021 10:22PM
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MiIfHunter
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TheMoostafianYeah fuck cutting a tensioned wire rope. That being said, now that I think about it a little more, the tension would be pulling both sides (after it's cut) directly away from you, so right at the cut would probably be the safest spot.


I chuckled again hehe

i was hoping this was cut thrice
Oct 21 2021 11:37PM
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Skiblade420
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Yeah I think right at the spot would be the safest like said above, but hell… I imagine it would insanely loud?
Oct 22 2021 1:27AM
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Skiblade420
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Also imagine if your grinder blade got stuck a lil as it snapped, would rip your arms off.
Oct 22 2021 1:30AM
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corona
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They've definitely got em now





https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/sea-to-sky-gondola-vandalism-update-2022-1.6582667
Sep 14 2022 3:48PM
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TRVP_ANGEL
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coronaThey've definitely got em now





https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/sea-to-sky-gondola-vandalism-update-2022-1.6582667


Every time this thread gets bumped, i thi k it got cut again
Sep 14 2022 4:37PM
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hemlockjibber8
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It was obviously Casper the Ghost. Boom. Give me $500k
Sep 15 2022 2:00AM
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