dude, i dunno what you kids are talking about with this 'i have to have 2000000000mm shit otherwise i will die.' I rocked Siver all year, both puffy and raven and the pants... never got wet once, and i do admit i live high in the mtns of COlorado, where it is usually pretty light, dry snow, but it rained here for a week, on the mountain, my puffy smelled once after it was in the rain, but i was dry, and the smell left when it dried out... and that was this years stuff which is 1000-3000mm. trust me, the 8000mm that this years stuff is, is more than enough. Siver is by far the sickest outerwear company
CHEESE CAKE - COMING 2005!!!