the tips are a bit soft, and tails mch stiffer. you can feel the flex pattern difference if you flex the ski with your hands. what i can't understand is how can everybody say they are ''made for butters'' or ''just a park ski''? the fugitives are awesome all around for a twin tip ski. they hold an edge great, unless you REALLY lay into them, which by that point you should be riding a regular all-mountain ski anyway. they're great skis. i don't have a single complaint with them at all except for the weight. they're real heavy compared to my 1260's, but then again, it's the 1260 so they can't be compared. now THOSE skis are made for butters. they're like wet noodles both tips and tails.