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E = MC2 Disproves Biblegod

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Lé.Skiing
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E = MC2 Disproves Biblegod
Wow! I guess there is no 'God' then.
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Feb 26 2005 5:57PM
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i don't even need math to know there isn't a god.





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Feb 26 2005 6:06PM
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Lé.Skiing
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yah but you need math to prove that all that christians live their life by is completely wrong... haha
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Feb 26 2005 6:07PM
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they aern't living their lives wrong, unless you consider morals and values wrong, even if some are kind of corrupt. I don't believe in god, but i do believe in values and morals. Some take it all too far though.

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you mean there is no invisible man sitting in the clouds!!! LIAR!!

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Feb 26 2005 6:09PM
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Fuck! who needs values and morals when you got Sex, Alchohol, and Weed!
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i hope you don;t take that seriuosly.

it reminds me of the Women = the root of all evil equation, now that is some funny shit.


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oh on the women being the root of all evil heres a ballet decision... its funny
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Feb 26 2005 6:13PM
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shit i messed up Link!
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I voted for women

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Feb 26 2005 6:17PM
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Lé.Skiing
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found theEquassion of the women being hte root of all evil
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Feb 26 2005 6:20PM
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^this is what you were looking for



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Feb 26 2005 6:23PM
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your retarded, we made up math, math cant determine anything, thats like saying, oh its 120 degrees out side that means theres no god, im not religious but your just stupid. We are positive the Energy = mass x lightspeed2, 500 years ago we were positive the world was flat and the sun rotated around us.







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I hope you also know that E=MC^2 is purely theoretical which may mean it works sometimes, not necessarily all the time meaning there can be exceptions...and as the text puts it the 'biblegod' is not restricted by the laws he makes. He created all which includes the universe, so when he created the universe the laws that govern it do not apply to himself.

He created it and can do whatever he wants. If E=MC^2 was a law, which it may well be, then it is part of the laws governing our universe. So if he entered, or gave power or limited power to Jesus who lived on Earth he would be able to do those powers aswell such as water into wine and not having to conform to laws. He would still walk with the people so as not to 'freak them out' if he just floated around.
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Ski-hobo
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hahah, Math has been around since the begining of time, man has mearly recognized its exsistence and used his own numbers and equations to quantify the laws of the universe. And E=MC2 is proven.

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Feb 26 2005 6:46PM
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we made up numbers, math hasent been around, we just made it up and gave things values to help us disprove/or prove stuff. its like a language, you cant 'truely' prove anything with math, it would be the same thing if i said god doesnt exist in spanish.







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Feb 26 2005 6:48PM
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yes, we made numbers up for our minds to be able to understand the forces of the universe, but they are always the same, the 23 or so fundamental constants of the universe

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Feb 26 2005 6:53PM
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Ski-hobo is one of the few non-retards on this site (non retard bieng he sees things the same way as me)







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and drgonzo is one of the ns morons.



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ha....hahahahahaha



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Feb 26 2005 7:19PM
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when you say we 'made up' math, drgonzo, you are talking like a fucking retard. we made up numbers to understand math...math being the universal fucking language. why do you thinkg every single nation can agree on one thing and one thing only - the relationships that occur in nature, that happen naturally (without any intervention) that are mathamatic, that deal with numbers (nubmers that were created to understand the space and time we live in), ie: the number pi (3.1415) being the relationsihp between ANY circles diameter and circumference , was discovered by man, not created.

i beleive that every person has the right to tere own opinion, and i also believe that some peoples opinoins are retarded and have no basis of thought or fact behind them. so here is where i say:

drgonzo your head is buried, and i mean BURIED, up your ass

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Feb 26 2005 7:27PM
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thats hilarious. nice.
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Feb 26 2005 7:30PM
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joeengle gots it

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Feb 26 2005 7:36PM
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ok, funny thing is that albert einstein, while not a Christian did believe in an all powerful God that his thoery 'apparently' teaches against.

ok, if God is outside of space and time and matter and energy and also created all of that, he has power over it, and if he created the laws of physics he could give exceptions to those. i know what im trying to say, but im sooo tired right now. oh well
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^pretty unlikley

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Feb 26 2005 8:37PM
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Ski-hobo
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by design, religious beliefs generally cannot be refuted by rational or empirical means.

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Feb 26 2005 8:49PM
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Feb 26 2005 9:03PM
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Im sorry but if u think that that little high school math expiement disproves God and Religion I consider you a moron. Im not even a fan of religion nor do I buy into but the idea is not that there is a physical mass or energy out there. The idea is not that heaven is just on the other side of our universe. It is thoughts,beliefs and traditions of a certain group. IF it helps them justify there life and feel good about themsleves who cares.
And if ur point is that all these crazy christians who voted for Bush ruined. Get over it your bitter and u def didnt convince n e of them that GOd doesnt exist and change their lives.
Face it they are chained to a certain set of beleifs and will live their christian life like a robot. Go to church Up down kneel sing. LEave feel good about urself and go have an affair and beat ur children and offer them to the priest for sex. Thats the real religion in this country!
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Feb 26 2005 9:18PM
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^^exactly.

that website was the stupidest shit i've ever seen in my life.

in no way am i religious, but that site was fucking retarded.
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If you don't know anything about a subject you should probably keep your mouth shut or yo will end up looking as stupid as people in this thread.

Here is how Einstein felt about God, and organized religion...

However, it must be admitted that our actual knowledge of these laws is only imperfect and fragmentary, so that, actually, the belief in the existence of basic all-embracing laws in Nature also rests on a sort of faith. All the same this faith has been largely justified so far by the success of scientific research. But, on the other hand, every one who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe-a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble. In this way the pursuit of science leads to a religious feeling of a special sort, which is indeed quite different from the religiosity of someone more naive.

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Feb 26 2005 10:01PM
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I just started relativity in my physics class, and my brain really hurts, its such a fuken abstract theory, I have trouble believing it... And you cant link religion (supernatural) and science, ppl have been fighting against that for ever, you just cant prove spirituality!



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The problem I see with the equation of women being evil is that your girlfriend is a women, but not all women are your girlfriend, so just because your girlfriend costs you money does not mean all women do. 'all functions are relations but not all relations are functions', so your girlfrind my be evil, but it doesn't mean all women are evil.



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Feb 26 2005 10:25PM
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Math is just a represntation of balance in this dimension we live in. The E=mc2 proving that god doesnt excist... . is one of the lamest things ive ever read.
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whats the point of a site like that. if you dont believe in a god then thats cool. but why do you need to try and ruin it for other people

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I would just like to make it known, that in the top of this thread, Drgonzo quoted men in black. That line he used is from the movie MEN IN BLACK on the scene when tommy lee jones offers will smith the job as an alien policeman or whatever and they are in the city by the water, and will smith is in utter disbelief after having seen the aliens. And Tommy Lee Jones says, '1000 years ago we KNEW the sun revolved around the earth. 500 years ago we KNEW the earth was flat. And yesterday you KNEW that humans are alone in this universe. Imagine what you will KNOW tomorrow.' That quote is not exact, and this is purely from memory. BUt im pretty sure its close. And it is an absolutely amazing quote, that in a way is really underappreciated. Drgonzo, dont steal from MIB, theyre the shit, and theyll bring ur ass down. CITE YOUR SOURCES BITCH!!!
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Feb 26 2005 11:47PM
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that site follows none of the rules of mathematical proof.

and the only way to prove god does not exist would be to recreated the universe's creation in a computer simulation and see if the big bang actually happend.


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I have a question... Where exactly does the bible state that God is composed of infinite amounts of energy?

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J.D. it is not that they say he is made up of infinite energy in the Bible, unless you believe that all powerful relates to energy as that power. What he is using as a base is that, ''A power that has no limits is infinite, in other words, an infinite energy source...'' Basically he is using common sense and principals of science.





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Feb 27 2005 10:18AM
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^Bullshit. He's drawing conclusions that serve his theory. That premise is totally flawed. No one ever said that an omnipotent being had to be a source of unlimited energy, or that such a being would derive its abilities from energy at all. Tell me, exactly how much energy would be required to bring a universe into existence? The question doesn't even make sense. Given that that sort of thing can't even be addressed in terms of energy, it doesn't make sense to immediately assume that God can best be decribed in the way that this guy describes him. I'm just using common sense here, nothing biblical... the argument is fallacious.

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Feb 27 2005 1:15PM
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old news
that there is no god atleast.

we can use the same thoery that you use on us. well how did that get there? well someone must have created it. well alrgiht where the fuck did god come from? nothing???


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Feb 27 2005 1:23PM
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french_fry
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DO NOT RELATE RELIGION AND SCIENCE ONCE AGAIN!!!! Its spirituality versus science, its the whole point of that god guy thing, he is a supernatural dude, you cant evaluate his power, its not something that is part of our world, and I personally dont believe in spirituality, but some ppl do and just respect them!!



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Feb 27 2005 1:29PM
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WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON



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Feb 27 2005 1:37PM
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J.D._May, even though he did try to make a statement on how much energy it would take to create the universe, which is utter bullshit, I agree; he is trying to disprove the biblegod using the formula E=MC squared. He is saying if god has unlimited power/energy than he would in turn have to have unlimited mass which is nonsense right there.





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Feb 27 2005 3:30PM
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I understand the reasoning... I'm saying that there is nothing to support his notion that God is composed of unlimited energy. To say that omnipotence and being composed of unlimited energy are the same thing is a big stretch. It's not necessarily so.

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Feb 27 2005 3:42PM
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skiierman
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Yeah he did just insert the whole power=energy thing in there. Oh well, just another person with too much time on their hands and a highschool education.





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Feb 27 2005 3:44PM
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that site has no clue what its saying, and to the dumbass who said we made math ur an idiot. Math was always here its not something humans made u fucking idiot

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Feb 27 2005 3:57PM
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wow, im so confused! i was on my way out the door to church, then i read this thread, and i started taking my shirt and tie off, because terrace guy totally made me doubt my beliefs, and then it was disproved, and so i started getting ready to go again... sheesh!

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