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Favorite powder big gun?

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FruitBootPro
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Idk why I suddenly feel like talking about this but I do. What is your favorite ski for deep days only?
I've never skied a true fat ski (120mm+) before, fattest I've skied are JJs and the 116mm Liberty ski and I didn't get to ski either in actual fresh. The latter blasted thru groomer turns tho.
May 19 2020 8:35PM
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ASSholebomber22
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120's the sweet spot imo. K2 catamarans are my favorite, superhero ski for sure. Unsinkable and effortless to ski. 2nd favorite are the 4frnt inthaynes, they rail, have a ton of pop and are super light. Both skis are kinda polar opposite, it's nice have the choice to noodle around or charge sometimes.
May 19 2020 9:04PM
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FruitBootPro
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Biffbarf120's the sweet spot imo. K2 catamarans are my favorite, superhero ski for sure. Unsinkable and effortless to ski. 2nd favorite are the 4frnt inthaynes, they rail, have a ton of pop and are super light. Both skis are kinda polar opposite, it's nice have the choice to noodle around or charge sometimes.


I desperately wanna try some super insane profiles like the ARG II, DPS Lotus, Moment Ghost Train, On3p Billy Goat, and Chipotle Banana. I would also like to try an insanely big, heavy, and chargy ski sometime. I generally like playful, rockered, poppy skis but at the same time I wanna someday have something in my quiver that will just demolish everything in its path.
I don't know why I'm such a sucker for these crazy ass ski designs lmao
May 19 2020 9:16PM
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ASSholebomber22
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FruitBootProI desperately wanna try some super insane profiles like the ARG II, DPS Lotus, Moment Ghost Train, On3p Billy Goat, and Chipotle Banana. I would also like to try an insanely big, heavy, and chargy ski sometime. I generally like playful, rockered, poppy skis but at the same time I wanna someday have something in my quiver that will just demolish everything in its path.
I don't know why I'm such a sucker for these crazy ass ski designs lmao


Tbh me too I'd love to take some laps on a buddy's moment comi or ghost train but it just seems like so much ski it'd be hard to commit to buyin a pair
May 19 2020 9:19PM
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FruitBootPro
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BiffbarfTbh me too I'd love to take some laps on a buddy's moment comi or ghost train but it just seems like so much ski it'd be hard to commit to buyin a pair


Definitely don't get a ski that fat until you can't use either your cats or inthaynes anymore lol
May 19 2020 9:29PM
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CatdickBojangles
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Hellbents. The 122 underfoot ones could almost be my daily. They are just so heavy.
May 19 2020 10:11PM
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hoodratz47
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My two fat sticks. Line Mr Pollard's Opus.193
And On3p billy goat 189. Love them. The opus is a more all around ski. . but the goats will make mashed potatoes seem like groomers!
May 19 2020 10:53PM
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jca
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Moment Donner Party is the titz
May 19 2020 10:55PM
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FruitBootPro
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jcaMoment Donner Party is the titz

Just looked it up...holy shit
139.5mm wide. So it has no actual sidecut at all? How much does it weight? How do you ski on piste? They should bring this shape back and use it on the Ghost Train mold or something lol
May 20 2020 12:24AM
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Dekaf
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i've had these for a while and their the absoloute funnest skis ever. super fun on groomers, pow, and i even take them to the park when im riding them for new wave stuff thanks to the 30% rocker front and back.

Salomon rocker 2 115
May 20 2020 1:27AM
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brogoldenhair
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Atomic Bentchetler 120's 2016, with the galaxy topsheets/bases before they got all light and shit. In the long lengths of that it was a pretty heavy stable ski, not a crud buster but felt so solid in pow/landings. Made me feel like I was Chris/pollard/pep
The 1 ski I want to try is a ~190 blizzard bodacious in soft conditions. Thing looks like a 2x4
May 20 2020 8:16AM
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jca
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FruitBootProJust looked it up...holy shit
139.5mm wide. So it has no actual sidecut at all? How much does it weight? How do you ski on piste? They should bring this shape back and use it on the Ghost Train mold or something lol


Theyre heavy haha, mine are mounted with Tyrolia Peak 18s which are also heavy. However, having the mass underfoot makes the swing weight really low.

Skiing on piste with them takes some getting used to but is manageable with controlled powerslides, just stay over the middle of the ski and slide em around, definitely do not try to engage the tips haha. It only takes a little bit of soft snow to make them come alive though.

Here's the article Shane McConkey wrote about skiing his Spatula's, the first R/R ski -https://unofficialnetworks.com/2012/07/05/brain-floss-by-shane-mcconkey-reverse-camber-powder-skis/
May 20 2020 10:17AM
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CalumSKI
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For deep snow it would have to be my Bent Chetler 120s but for more variable snow conditions I would have to say either the K2 reckoner 112s or Moment deathwishes
May 20 2020 10:37AM
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FruitBootPro
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CalumSKIFor deep snow it would have to be my Bent Chetler 120s but for more variable snow conditions I would have to say either the K2 reckoner 112s or Moment deathwishes

112 gangg 😎😎😎
May 20 2020 10:38AM
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CalumSKI
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FruitBootPro112 gangg 😎😎😎


yeeee
May 20 2020 10:39AM
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SofaKingSick
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volkl katana, the most classic bread-and-butter charger ski

only issue is its preferred diet of softer, lamer skis can get expensive
May 20 2020 1:48PM
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Chinchi
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What I practically use- JJs 193 116 underfoot
what I wish I had- Armada ARG
May 20 2020 3:26PM
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brogoldenhair
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SofaKingSickvolkl katana, the most classic bread-and-butter charger ski

only issue is its preferred diet of softer, lamer skis can get expensive


I've always wanted to get on an og pair. New cambered version just seems like a wider mantra.
May 20 2020 4:35PM
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Bended_Toenail
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A friend of mine co-owns a used ski shop and every year we get a big group and take out some of their skis for a few days.

Last year I rode a Liberty mutant (145 underfoot) and it was weird.
I was riding it in 14 inches, and I think it deserved about twice that much snow
May 21 2020 12:41PM
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BigPurpleSkiSuit
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FruitBootPro112 gangg 😎😎😎


112 for life man!
May 21 2020 1:13PM
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FruitBootPro
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Bened_notnilA friend of mine co-owns a used ski shop and every year we get a big group and take out some of their skis for a few days.

Last year I rode a Liberty mutant (145 underfoot) and it was weird.
I was riding it in 14 inches, and I think it deserved about twice that much snow


145 underfoot just sounds ridiculous and like it should be only ever used for chest deep powder or Alaska spines
May 21 2020 1:32PM
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SofaKingSick
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brogoldenhairI've always wanted to get on an og pair. New cambered version just seems like a wider mantra.


yeah, that's exactly the thought i had. though that still sounds like a dope ski that i'd like to try
May 21 2020 1:34PM
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Bended_Toenail
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FruitBootPro145 underfoot just sounds ridiculous and like it should be only ever used for chest deep powder or Alaska spines

Yeah, I really just took it out to see how it would feel.

The previous owner must have skied some crazy pow
May 21 2020 1:37PM
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.nasty
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I keep a pair of 2010 hellbents around for those truly untracked not so crowded days...
May 22 2020 6:36PM
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Non_State_Actor
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FruitBootPro145 underfoot just sounds ridiculous and like it should be only ever used for chest deep powder or Alaska spines


Bened_notnilYeah, I really just took it out to see how it would feel.

The previous owner must have skied some crazy pow


I don't know, I bet they're a blast in spring afternoon slushville too, though I ski 110-122 everyday and don't see any problems with it.
May 22 2020 7:53PM
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Rodigan
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This seasons Deathwish.
May 23 2020 8:32AM
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FruitBootPro
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RodiganThis seasons Deathwish.


Yo how did they change it? Also 112 is a bit slim to be a "powder big gun for deep days only"
May 23 2020 7:20PM
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lil.Boye
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K2 pettitor 2013 model. great float but still loose and fun. bought them second hand for super cheap
Jan 31 2022 5:14AM
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shin-bang
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favorite overall deep day ski: Moment Ghost Train

wanna go fast and charge along with deep pow: ON3P Billy Goats
loved the goats but they would always rape me when in tight spaces.
Jan 31 2022 10:37AM
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Session
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shin-bangfavorite overall deep day ski: Moment Ghost Train

wanna go fast and charge along with deep pow: ON3P Billy Goats
loved the goats but they would always rape me when in tight spaces.


If you're used to a ski that wants a more neutral stance than the BG's will not be responsive in tight places, but if you pressure the tips, they will come alive and be more responsive than you would expect from a ski that size.

It's actually pretty renowned for how good a tree ski it is due to this.
Jan 31 2022 11:39AM
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shin-bang
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SessionIf you're used to a ski that wants a more neutral stance than the BG's will not be responsive in tight places, but if you pressure the tips, they will come alive and be more responsive than you would expect from a ski that size.

It's actually pretty renowned for how good a tree ski it is due to this.


I’ve heard this as well. Maybe I should have sized down slightly.
Jan 31 2022 12:26PM
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Session
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shin-bangI’ve heard this as well. Maybe I should have sized down slightly.


The weird counter point is that on groomers, the BG responds better to a neutral stance. So a lot of people that like to drive their ski's have a hard time getting along with them when not in pow or tree's.
Jan 31 2022 2:06PM
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SFBv420.0
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i haz several (4) pair of og spatulas 132 mm
a couple pairs of splatulas that are 142mm under foot and
a pair of og dps lotus 138's
3 pairs of kusala pows at 124mm
and 3 or 4 pairs of og dps lotus 120's
my bros remaking some classics
and redoing some with metal
Heritage Lab Skis
Jan 31 2022 9:29PM
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BigPurpleSkiSuit
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Armada Magic J 190
Jan 31 2022 9:29PM
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ASSholebomber22
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Poor bot has no idea what we're talking about
Feb 2 2022 10:19AM
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FruitBootPro
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SFBv420.0i haz several (4) pair of og spatulas 132 mm
a couple pairs of splatulas that are 142mm under foot and
a pair of og dps lotus 138's
3 pairs of kusala pows at 124mm
and 3 or 4 pairs of og dps lotus 120's
my bros remaking some classics
and redoing some with metal
Heritage Lab Skis


you're a legend
Feb 2 2022 3:20PM
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Burrito
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Super happy so far with a pair of Chipotle Bananas I got at the end of last season, though I'm yet to get them in anything truly deep. They like to go fast, and they're crazy stable for a ski that size when they do. My Bent Chetler 120s are a blast, too, though they're much more at home in light, dry powder than in something like deep Sierra cement, where they can tend to get overpowered. I also really enjoyed a pair of Surface New Lifes I bought back in the day. Originally got them solely for pow days and ended up using them in pretty much any condition.

Really interested in trying Billy Goats after digging the larger turn radius on the CBs.
Feb 2 2022 7:24PM
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SFBv420.0
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FruitBootProyou're a legend

na just another skibum with a pow ski hoarding problem

Feb 3 2022 8:00AM
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FruitBootPro
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SFBv420.0na just another skibum with a pow ski hoarding problem



that heritage lab stuff is so sick, I love the idea of a powder dedicated indie ski brand especially since so many indie brands are cookie cutter nowadays
Feb 3 2022 12:22PM
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BigPurpleSkiSuit
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SFBv420.0i haz several (4) pair of og spatulas 132 mm
a couple pairs of splatulas that are 142mm under foot and
a pair of og dps lotus 138's
3 pairs of kusala pows at 124mm
and 3 or 4 pairs of og dps lotus 120's
my bros remaking some classics
and redoing some with metal
Heritage Lab Skis


Holy shit this is actually sick.
Feb 3 2022 2:19PM
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SFBv420.0
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marshalls the man and im super stoked for what he has going on with this
that pin tail 120 shape suits my skiing style great
i almost wish i ordered the metal touron killers instead of another carbon pair
theres a long thread on the tgr with more info
but they seem to be under cyber attack right now
Feb 3 2022 5:33PM
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