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mtbakerpow
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Not sure how I feel about the selling me another pass and oh hey I’m going to give you until this date to save a little extra money,I’d like a partial refund instead






To Our Ikon Pass Community:

We hope this note finds you and those close to you healthy and well.

These are the days when we are particularly grateful for all those who share our devotion to winter in the mountains and find camaraderie within this passionate community. In these unprecedented times, we understand that the unknown can be difficult and today we hope to alleviate some of that by offering details regarding Ikon Pass and next winter.

As a valued member of our Ikon Pass community, we want to share our appreciation and gratitude with you by doubling your 20/21 renewal discount from $100 to up to $200 per Ikon Pass and from $50 to up to $100 per Ikon Base Pass. In addition to these savings, we are also giving you more time to renew your pass at the best value, until May 27, 2020. The zero interest payment plan also remains an option for you.

We recognize all of you who share our passion and enthusiasm, and find joy within this community. During this time off the slopes, we wish you and your snow crew continued connection and enthusiasm and we look forward to the days when all of us get out there again and enjoy adventures together.

We thank you for your enduring love of the mountains. Sweet days await us.

Be well. Your friends at Ikon Pass
Apr 14 2020 3:39PM
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SavageBiff
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As I said above already bought mine but this is cool of them
Damn you beat me to it , not a bad reason to save $200 except idk if the resorts don’t open by 21/22 whoopsie
IanAvery-Leafso this is an interesting development...


Apr 17 2020 8:06PM
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Jpurd
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Honestly, huge props to Ikon for this. I don't know what the fuck Epic is doing, but props to Alterra. Imo, they are really going above and beyond
IanAvery-Leafso this is an interesting development...


Apr 17 2020 9:07PM
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j_oski
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IKONt believe i'm not getting a rEFuNd!!! I missed out on 5 whole weeks of skiing November through march just wasnt enough time on the slopes for me. I dEManD vail resorts give me my 500 dollars back I only got to go on 3 out of the 5 trips i planned i am so POOR now I NEED a refund ikon I WILL be speaking to a mAnAGer about this.

- Karen
Apr 20 2020 12:50AM
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SavageBiff
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Sad thing is, there probably are a lot of people doing and thinking just like that
j_oskiIKONt believe i'm not getting a rEFuNd!!! I missed out on 5 whole weeks of skiing November through march just wasnt enough time on the slopes for me. I dEManD vail resorts give me my 500 dollars back I only got to go on 3 out of the 5 trips i planned i am so POOR now I NEED a refund ikon I WILL be speaking to a mAnAGer about this.

- Karen
Apr 20 2020 11:52AM
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Jpurd
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SavageBiffSad thing is, there probably are a lot of people doing and thinking just like that


Look at any Ikon add on FB/IG and you will see a million comments like this.
Apr 20 2020 2:52PM
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GayWolf420
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I was freaking out a bit over their decision to let people defer their passes but that just means they're letting people who either planned on a ski trip this year or had one planned that went down the shitter cuz of all this which is probably the case for a lot of people at a lot of resorts all over. People are being cautious which we all have to be rn but Idk it just feels too early to call off the 20/21 ski season yet. If everyone does their part currently and whatever, its definitely an attainable goal.

and OP and his entitlement along with the 1000s of other people blasting resorts on social media currently, including all the people filing a class-action lawsuit against Vail for closing down early, can all eat a fucking dick and you're the reason skiing has such a bad attitude problem.

**This post was edited on Apr 21st 2020 at 1:54:56pm

**This post was edited on Apr 21st 2020 at 1:55:25pm
Apr 21 2020 1:52PM
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theabortionator
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I called out all the chodes bitching about the ikon pass. Logic makes people pretty salty lol.



Apr 21 2020 2:04PM
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Chunderface
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Vail facing class action lawsuit for not issuing refunds. Will be wild if this goes somewhere.

https://www.tetongravity.com/story/ski/vail-faces-class-action-fraud-lawsuit-over-lack-of-pass-refunds?bwf_dp=t&bwf_entry_id=66107&bwf_token_id=20557&bwf_token=jl4LkPzWMWzX7AoyQoLBSU5Hl&fbclid=IwAR37lfpoj7mOzIIk3Iy5TTthNvKQOkf20gC97hqlDwij7TsVszn3vRpToC0
Apr 21 2020 7:31PM
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theabortionator
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skeirmanVail facing class action lawsuit for not issuing refunds. Will be wild if this goes somewhere.

https://www.tetongravity.com/story/ski/vail-faces-class-action-fraud-lawsuit-over-lack-of-pass-refunds?bwf_dp=t&bwf_entry_id=66107&bwf_token_id=20557&bwf_token=jl4LkPzWMWzX7AoyQoLBSU5Hl&fbclid=IwAR37lfpoj7mOzIIk3Iy5TTthNvKQOkf20gC97hqlDwij7TsVszn3vRpToC0


Some old douchers here were suing vail over paid parking when they have massive free lots, a fucking bunch of shuttle busses, and parking in that lot.and getting traffic off the road actually improved most peoples time to the hill substantially.

People are entitled cunts, and some of these douchebags deserve to get slapped.

The best part is that none of these fucks even ski in april. They only care because they can't now. In any other circumstance they'd be practicing putting or driving their boat around chugging wine or something. They don't tive a fuck about skiing. They're fragile little fucks and they care about somebody telling them they can't and in their mind challenging them.

Go back to the cities you chodes and shut the fuck up.
Apr 21 2020 7:55PM
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cyphers
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theabortionatorI called out all the chodes bitching about the ikon pass. Logic makes people pretty salty lol.





lmao is that scott
Apr 22 2020 4:19PM
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theabortionator
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cypherslmao is that scott


Nah it wasn't lol.
Apr 22 2020 5:21PM
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TRVP_ANGEL
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Hours of entertainment right at your finger tips
Apr 24 2020 12:46AM
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ASSholebomber22
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Obvs not ikon, but I'm pretty stoked that A basin is allowing folks who haven't used all their multi pass days this season to use them next season.
Apr 24 2020 5:02PM
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TRVP_ANGEL
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Apr 26 2020 5:35PM
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PeppermillReno
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Dogfart


Shut up you pussy stop quoting yourself.
Apr 26 2020 7:02PM
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black
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BiffbarfObvs not ikon, but I'm pretty stoked that A basin is allowing folks who haven't used all their multi pass days this season to use them next season.

A-Basin wants to re-open this season
https://www.vaildaily.com/entertainment/outdoors/arapahoe-basin-ski-area-chief-shares-ski-areas-considerations-on-re-opening/
Apr 26 2020 7:54PM
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j_oski
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skeirmanVail facing class action lawsuit for not issuing refunds. Will be wild if this goes somewhere.

https://www.tetongravity.com/story/ski/vail-faces-class-action-fraud-lawsuit-over-lack-of-pass-refunds?bwf_dp=t&bwf_entry_id=66107&bwf_token_id=20557&bwf_token=jl4LkPzWMWzX7AoyQoLBSU5Hl&fbclid=IwAR37lfpoj7mOzIIk3Iy5TTthNvKQOkf20gC97hqlDwij7TsVszn3vRpToC0


Part of me isn't upset about this because vail sucks but also its really dumb so kinda conflicted
Apr 26 2020 10:03PM
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SkiBum.
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Vail just released discounts for next years passes if you had one this year. Hopefully Ikon does the same
Apr 27 2020 11:53AM
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Titus69
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SkiBum.Vail just released discounts for next years passes if you had one this year. Hopefully Ikon does the same


Yeah isn’t it kinda dependent on your # of days this season? Doesn’t matter for me cause free epic pass from work (no I don’t work for vail) but I kinda hope vail could do something better than the ikon in terms of deals, would just be funny to see the two competing for the best Rona szn deals.
Apr 27 2020 12:04PM
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eheath
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Titus69Yeah isn’t it kinda dependent on your # of days this season? Doesn’t matter for me cause free epic pass from work (no I don’t work for vail) but I kinda hope vail could do something better than the ikon in terms of deals, would just be funny to see the two competing for the best Rona szn deals.


its kinda sad they're giving into the bullshit, they're just getting bullied and can't save face without giving people money, which IMO they shouldn't have to do at all, classic USA people taking advantage of a problem so they can benefit.
Apr 27 2020 1:14PM
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SkiBum.
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Meh, I get what you’re saying but it’s just like any other big corporation in America. They are looking for any way possible right now to get cash flow in. Even at a reduced amount.

I think the ski business will have some big changes this coming season. Not sure exactly what yet but maybe reduced lifts or staff in general, try to minimize overhead and spending?

Usually this time of year is a huge hiring push for mid and upper level management. SAMs website and classifieds usually would be at 60-70+ listings, currently there are 24 and those are all months old. Scary
eheathits kinda sad they're giving into the bullshit, they're just getting bullied and can't save face without giving people money, which IMO they shouldn't have to do at all, classic USA people taking advantage of a problem so they can benefit.
Apr 27 2020 1:31PM
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Titus69
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eheathits kinda sad they're giving into the bullshit, they're just getting bullied and can't save face without giving people money, which IMO they shouldn't have to do at all, classic USA people taking advantage of a problem so they can benefit.


Yeah idk why everyone is so angry they’re not being refunded especially if they’ve used it, idk if my work even got the money for vail to reimburse us on our last check this year. There’s also so many factors besides disease that can ruin a ski trip, flights cancelled, rain, wind holds, too high of avy danger off piste, bags getting lost etc.
all those are assumed risks when you’re going on a ski trip, and these people are just pissed off they planned some and don’t get to go cause they’re health is at more of a risk...Can’t predict the resorts closing as a whole but with every trip comes the risk of something going wrong, refunds on hotel bookings or maybe some rental gear sure but if you think you’re getting money back on a pass that’s rarely ever refundable since forever and because a world health crisis caused its resorts to close, fuck you.
i might have to get in this ikon Facebook group, I can’t even imagine the beaters in there.

I just hope most of the resorts can open next winter, since it didn’t end right this year I’d like to give my work in PC one more season before mainly being in the cottonwoods, which they won’t like.
Apr 27 2020 1:48PM
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RudyGarmisch
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https://www.epicpass.com/info/2019-2020-pass-holder-credit.aspx
Apr 27 2020 3:36PM
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mtbakerpow
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I’m surprised to see this from vail, that would be a pleasant surprise from ikon to get 20% back or off next season at the price of last seasons rate. Either way like I said before, don’t feed the trolls.
Apr 27 2020 6:04PM
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SavageBiff
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Ikon is already giving $200 off
mtbakerpowI’m surprised to see this from vail, that would be a pleasant surprise from ikon to get 20% back or off next season at the price of last seasons rate. Either way like I said before, don’t feed the trolls.
Apr 27 2020 7:14PM
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RRhighrider
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eheathits kinda sad they're giving into the bullshit, they're just getting bullied and can't save face without giving people money, which IMO they shouldn't have to do at all, classic USA people taking advantage of a problem so they can benefit.

I wouldn't say that they are giving into any bullshit. This is a clearly stated business decision, the good will to customers is a added bonus. From the press release:


As a result of the early closure this season and the meaningful credits we are offering to 2019/2020 season pass holders, we will be delaying the recognition of approximately $118 million of our deferred season pass revenue, as well as approximately $3 million of related deferred costs, that would have been recognized in the remainder of fiscal 2020 and will now be recognized in the second and third quarters of fiscal 2021. This will result in a reduction in lift revenue and Resort Reported EBITDA in fiscal 2020 of approximately $118 million and approximately $115 million, respectively, which is incremental to the negative impact previously disclosed on March 18, 2020. Fiscal 2021 lift revenue will increase by approximately $118 million, partially or fully offsetting the negative impact of the credits being offered to pass holders, depending upon the final usage of such credits
towards the purchase of 2020/2021 season passes, and fiscal 2021 Resort Reported EBITDA will increase by approximately $115 million.



Simply stated the credit is allowing them to move money into 2021 to help insulate from expected lower lift revenue.
Apr 30 2020 7:59PM
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