bennwithtwonsscanning tickets or bumping chairs isn't supposed to be a career. there is a reason people tend to earn more money later in their lives - they move on from unskilled work jobs to jobs that require experience and more advanced knowledge. the market sets the price and clearly the market doesn't value that job at $15/hr, otherwise it would be demanding that rate of pay. artificially raising the wage rate by way of government intervention isn't the answer, i'm afraid.
Taco bell in kings beach starts around 14.50 I think. Burger king out past boreal is 15 maybe 16. Starting. Starting. Starting. This is not people with 10 years in various roles of fast food. Starting.
If you're looking at these places the same as some fast food job in south carolina you're doing it wrong. The cost if living is much higher.
Also i get that a blanket raise would impact a ton of non skilled employees but people associating evey job at a ski area with being a first year lifty is ridiculous. There's lots of skilled employees especially in mtn ops, and they're getting boned and sometimes paid the same as the lifties.
I get the whole libertarian don't tread on me, let's let the market decide, but these ski areas will fuck people continuously.
Litterally taco bell would be a pay raise for some people running $300,000 machines sometimes, but you're right, that's unskilled labor and clearly the market is showing that the wage is corrrect.
Also I don't know if you been in fast food recently, and I avoid it, but I'd say maybe 1/4 of them at best are the first job high school kids they're made out to be fully comprised of. A lot of adults in a bind that need a job are working fast food etc.
Also this thread in general just seems like another of dolans "let me make a random thread about nothing" or some real life shit just to get another SG thread, and then argue with everyone.
The wage shouldn't go up as a response to suicides. Mtn town suicides are higher. Not everyone in the mtn towns even works for ski areas. Being able to afford to live can make peope less depressed, and wages to inflation aren't very good. It's a tough issue but our government side stepping it is shitty. I'd be down if I could buy a house here, that'll never happen, but the government shouldn't give me one.
Honestly benn, the minimum wage has been fairly stagnant which is why many states and cities are raising their own. Unfortunately ski towns don't follow along with the cities even though the costs can be fairly similar.
Look at the factory jobs back in the day. The pay was shit, the workers were treated like shit, and the hours were rowdy. But I guess if that's what the market decides...
There's room for improvement in this country especially if we're going to claim to be the best country in the world. I think a lot of people's issues with health care or wage reform is that they got health care from their job, or they feel like they're doing alright with $. Fuck everyone else because they feel like that would lesson what they've gained. Nobody wants handouts, there are a ton of lazy people, but that is far from everyone. If more people could make enough to survive, that could also lesson some of the dependence on social programs. Most people just want to work hard, and be able to pay rent, other bills, and still buy some food. That doesn't seem like a ridiculous goal, and pretty meager for the American dream. If that's too much, then this country really does suck.
The ski areas reliance on foreign workers is pretty jacked. If America is so great, and these wages are simply set by the market, why are we flying up half of south America to do them? That doesn't seem to compute with these wages being at the correct value.
The blanket 15 probably wouldn't even have much of an impact on the more skilled roles unfortunately. But people always spouting that the wages are legit are out of their minds or don't really know the situation.
When taco bell and burger king are starting people at 14-15, maybe people with 10-20 years experience running mschines building terrain parks making 17-18 some less (some more) isn't simply the market, but these ski areas being shady.
Some small ski areas struggle a lot harder, funny enough they actually still pay better in some of these mtn towns.
You're probably saying. Don't tread on me, something about the market, they should quit and get another job. The thing is, the ski industry and sport in general was built on passionate people. Even then every year I have friends every year with ridiculous amounts of experience and fold to take a welding or equipment job even back east. Even in places where the minimum wage is like 8, because they get paid resonably. You shouldn't be paid simply for being passionate, but sucking the passion out of the industry isnt going to have any positive impacts.