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McJubbyI bought some ARV 116s this year! I put shifts on them. The set up has been dope so far. I am 100lbs lighter and 6 inches shorter (and female) but they feel really sturdy and still pop off when they should even though the dins are at 9.
Emma_WatsonI'm on my second pair of shifts (thank ski shop prodeals) - i usually ride a 8 or 9 DIN myself, however i found myself pre-releasing like fucking crazy. What helps is checking your toe height adjustment every few days you ski them. Additionally, I set my forward pressure a bit tighter than recomended, ie. the indicator is barely popping out of the housing where you read forward pressure. Cranked my DIN's up to 11.5toe12heel and they're riding and releasing responsively.
Shifts are one of the most sensitive bindings out there and there has been TONS of pre-releases on them due to low AFD height and it sounds like these pairs might be some too. You noticing a difference when putting more forward pressure(which would slightly reduce the effect of a low AFD caused pre-release) and the fact that you are having to adjust it up often makes me wonder if it’s being adjusted properly.
Any binding with an adjustable AFD or toe height needs to have the ski boot toe lifted up first with heavy pressure before you test for AFD height. Every time you put a boot in a binding, it might go in at a slightly different height and if you don’t pull up that toe first, you might adjust the AFD but there is still slack in the toe.
So, put the alpine boot in the binding with a business card or 5mm spacer(2.5mm spacer on the Shifts now I think) under the toe and push HARD on the rear cuff of the boot to wheelie the toe and THEN test the AFD height so it’s tough to move a business card out from under the toe. Many shops seem to miss this step of most bindings even with it shown in the tech manuals.
**This post was edited on Feb 17th 2020 at 9:18:40pm
Greg_KShifts are one of the most sensitive bindings out there and there has been TONS of pre-releases on them due to low AFD height and it sounds like these pairs might be some too. You noticing a difference when putting more forward pressure(which would slightly reduce the effect of a low AFD caused pre-release) and the fact that you are having to adjust it up often makes me wonder if it’s being adjusted properly.
Any binding with an adjustable AFD or toe height needs to have the ski boot toe lifted up first with heavy pressure before you test for AFD height. Every time you put a boot in a binding, it might go in at a slightly different height and if you don’t pull up that toe first, you might adjust the AFD but there is still slack in the toe.
So, put the alpine boot in the binding with a business card or 5mm spacer(2.5mm spacer on the Shifts now I think) under the toe and push HARD on the rear cuff of the boot to wheelie the toe and THEN test the AFD height so it’s tough to move a business card out from under the toe. Many shops seem to miss this step of most bindings even with it shown in the tech manuals.
**This post was edited on Feb 17th 2020 at 9:18:40pm
Damn! Good call - I totally have not been lifting the boot while adjusting toe height.
One problem I have been seeing often is with WTR soles. Although they are compatable with the shift, snow and ice tends to build up in the rubber tread on the toe and heel. I've had the problem of a clump of ice stuck to the tread on the toe piece of my boot and when I click in I'm forcing the AFD down, leaving no contact with my boot and the AFD. Fuck WTR
Emma_WatsonDamn! Good call - I totally have not been lifting the boot while adjusting toe height.
One problem I have been seeing often is with WTR soles. Although they are compatable with the shift, snow and ice tends to build up in the rubber tread on the toe and heel. I've had the problem of a clump of ice stuck to the tread on the toe piece of my boot and when I click in I'm forcing the AFD down, leaving no contact with my boot and the AFD. Fuck WTR
Yes, snow and ice build up another thing that that can cause issues!
I see the “toe not lifted before testing” on lots of bindings not just Shifts before testing AFD/toe height and it will cause a loose feeling binding and can cause pre-releases too. Always recommend checking this and forward pressure first before raising DIN values(especially if you’re already at 3/3+ levels.)
