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Full Tilt Ascendant Compatibility

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Kd2211
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Not sure if anyone would know the answer to this but was interested in moving away from the park a little bit to ski some back country..

anyways, I have the 2020 full tilt ascendant that I’ve been using on a pair of blends with 2016 griffon bindings. I was told by the shop who mounted my skis and sold me the FT that they are compatible with the boots and I would have no problem. Despite specifically asking if I would have to change the soles for normal alpine bindings. I know that the newer griffons have grip walk /sole ID and would be compatible.


Can anyone confirm that the 2020 ascendant with grip walk soles wouldn’t work with 2016 griffon?


Just blew out my knee...
Dec 16 2019 8:54PM
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cpohl
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Sounds like somebody's gonna file a lawsuit with that last sentence
Dec 16 2019 9:20PM
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Non_State_Actor
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cpohlSounds like somebody's gonna file a lawsuit with that last sentence


That would be my guess as well?
Dec 16 2019 10:46PM
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olic
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I'm running Hawx Ultra XTD with a 2014 Marker Griffon (on my non pow set up) should be fine on a 2016, I trust the store here with their judgement that the 2014s are fine...

Editing this after doing some more research, info on Marker Sole ID compatibility with Hawx Ultra XTD is dodgy at best...

**This post was edited on Dec 18th 2019 at 5:49:36am
Dec 17 2019 8:19AM
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-eREKTion-
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Do the Griffons say Gripwalk or SoleID?
Dec 17 2019 9:06AM
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Kd2211
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They do not
-eREKTion-Do the Griffons say Gripwalk or SoleID?
Dec 17 2019 9:15AM
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-eREKTion-
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Kd2211They do not


is there an afd adjustment screw? if so, was the afd properly adjusted for gripwalk boots?
Dec 17 2019 9:17AM
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Kd2211
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-eREKTion-is there an afd adjustment screw? if so, was the afd properly adjusted for gripwalk boots?

I believe there is an AFD / adjustable toe. It’s an Allen wrench behind the toe piece right? I cannot fit a business card or even a piece of paper under the toe piece with the ascendants clipped in.
Dec 17 2019 10:24AM
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Kd2211
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-eREKTion-is there an afd adjustment screw? if so, was the afd properly adjusted for gripwalk boots?














This is as far as a card/ thin piece of cardboard will go.



nor can I pull out the card at all when pulling up the toe by pulling on the heel. Shouldn’t the plate move a little bit when pushing on with a screw driver?

**This post was edited on Dec 17th 2019 at 10:48:25am
Dec 17 2019 10:30AM
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Someone big a big mistake! Sucks OP got injured.
Dec 17 2019 4:02PM
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Kd2211
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Shop is telling me it passed din release with my correct ht & wt & skier type. Sounds like bs to me seeing as the 2016 griffon is pre grip walk?
mystery3Someone big a big mistake! Sucks OP got injured.
Dec 17 2019 6:14PM
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CatdickBojangles
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So wait did you blow your knee out ejecting from these bindings?
Dec 17 2019 8:50PM
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Kd2211
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No I blew out my knee not ejecting from these bindings. Took them to a shop to lower the dins and they said I was lucky I didn’t break my whole leg
CatdickBojanglesSo wait did you blow your knee out ejecting from these bindings?
Dec 17 2019 10:08PM
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CatdickBojangles
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Kd2211No I blew out my knee not ejecting from these bindings. Took them to a shop to lower the dins and they said I was lucky I didn’t break my whole leg


Yeah those are not gw compatible bindings with a gw sole I would be raising hell with the shop.
Dec 18 2019 7:26AM
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cydwhit
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Do you actually have the Grip Walk sole on those Ascendants though? Some Ascendants came with the flat DIN sole, some came with Grip Walk. Shop could have screwed up, for sure, but it's worth checking. Trying to jam GW soles into non GW bindings is pretty hard, you can tell something is wrong every time you put your boots on.
Dec 18 2019 2:30PM
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Kd2211
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they are grip walk soles. 2020 ascendants only come with them pretty sure
cydwhitDo you actually have the Grip Walk sole on those Ascendants though? Some Ascendants came with the flat DIN sole, some came with Grip Walk. Shop could have screwed up, for sure, but it's worth checking. Trying to jam GW soles into non GW bindings is pretty hard, you can tell something is wrong every time you put your boots on.
Dec 18 2019 10:10PM
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Kd2211
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Yeah I am. They’re trying to tell me they pass the din release test anyways and I’m like why tf you put them through the test in the first place
CatdickBojanglesYeah those are not gw compatible bindings with a gw sole I would be raising hell with the shop.
Dec 18 2019 10:11PM
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animator
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Gripwalk is NOT comptable with that binding, doesn’t matter if it “passes releases tests”. That’s bullshit because according to marker, the soles and the AFD don’t play together. Tell them to read up and cut the shit before someone gets hurt again
Dec 22 2019 7:28PM
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GayWolf420
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this shop just sounds ultra greasy lol damn
Dec 22 2019 10:22PM
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.nasty
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Kd2211Yeah I am. They’re trying to tell me they pass the din release test anyways and I’m like why tf you put them through the test in the first place


Yeah there's a lot of bindings that do not have compatibility and will still pass the test (like gripwalk soles with WTR model pivots), but that doesn't mean it's legal or frees liability. The shop should've known that right away before selling them/testing them.
Dec 23 2019 9:46AM
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Kd2211
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Ken Jones in Manchester NH. Hit them up if u tryna break a leg
DeebieSkeebiesthis shop just sounds ultra greasy lol damn
Dec 26 2019 11:44AM
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animator
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Kd2211Ken Jones in Manchester NH. Hit them up if u tryna break a leg

AHAHAHA NO WAY IT WAS KEN JONES. I work at Fire On The Mountain in Dover and ik that shop, can’t believe they passed that combo 😂😂😂

**This post was edited on Dec 26th 2019 at 2:13:31pm
Dec 26 2019 1:29PM
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Kd2211
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On my life lol. Tell Dylan Jones he’s a clown
animatorAHAHAHA NO WAY IT WAS KEN JONES. I work at Fire On The Mountain in Dover and ik that shop, can’t believe they passed that combo 😂😂😂

**This post was edited on Dec 26th 2019 at 2:13:31pm
Dec 26 2019 8:20PM
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animator
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Kd2211On my life lol. Tell Dylan Jones he’s a clown


I’m dead 😂😂😂 that’s hilarious
Dec 26 2019 8:59PM
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Kd2211
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Yeee lmao me and my bum knee dead too
animatorI’m dead 😂😂😂 that’s hilarious
Dec 26 2019 9:14PM
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