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Question for experienced park builders

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Cerhardt161
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I run the park crew at a small mountain in new york and ive been trying to make our park bigger and a little safer. We had a problem with the jumps, our cat drivers ended up making very odd jumps they thought would be “safe” after arguing about which way would be best. So my question is are there any common angles for jumps or specific heights for landing and take offs? Im not looking for double cork size jumps but just standard 30-40 foot jumps. Any help would be appreciated!

**This thread was edited on Oct 18th 2019 at 12:41:54pm
Oct 18 2019 12:40PM
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Obie.
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Out of curiosity which hill in NY are you operating at?
Oct 18 2019 12:48PM
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Cerhardt161
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Labrador mountain outside of syracuse
Oct 18 2019 1:19PM
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Obie.
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Cerhardt161Labrador mountain outside of syracuse


Ah gotcha, I frequented Togg when I lived out there. I always heard that Lab had a good park back in the day.
Oct 18 2019 1:55PM
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Cerhardt161
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Yes the old cat driver danny really was into it and did a great job but left about 3 years ago
Oct 18 2019 2:40PM
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wasatch_rat
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Commenting so this thread doesn't die. Thanks for putting in the effort to learn how to make better jumps, I hope you get the necessary responses from the right people. Went to lab a few times as a kid and it's nice to know there are people out there who still care about the quality of the features
Oct 18 2019 3:19PM
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SavageBiff
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wasatch_ratCommenting so this thread doesn't die. Thanks for putting in the effort to learn how to make better jumps, I hope you get the necessary responses from the right people. Went to lab a few times as a kid and it's nice to know there are people out there who still care about the quality of the features

Ya for real
really sucks learning on jumps with sooo much angle you pop and come straight down where ya took off
Oct 18 2019 7:42PM
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a_burger
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The exact angle isn’t so important as making sure it’s shaped properly to begin with. A good jump shouldn’t curve all throughout the takeoff, there should be transition at the bottom and then everything beyond that to the top of the lip should be a consistent grade. I typically try and use at least a rakes length (6 feet) of consistent grade before the top of the lip so you aren’t getting bucked at the very top. It is sucks trying to explain this to people who don’t spin off of jumps, as the problem isn’t that obvious if your just straight airing it and not popping at all.

Step ups and step overs are generally safer too but not necessary. I would try and make the landing twice as long as the gap if possible
Oct 18 2019 8:39PM
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Wizerd
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About 18 degrees was the norm, obviously it would vary depending on jump size, but if I remember correctly it was between 16 and 20 degrees.
Oct 18 2019 10:07PM
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Cerhardt161
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WizerdAbout 18 degrees was the norm, obviously it would vary depending on jump size, but if I remember correctly it was between 16 and 20 degrees.

Okay ill make sure to remember that and for landings would it just be trying to match the angle of the takeoff
Oct 19 2019 12:26AM
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Oct 19 2019 1:28AM
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edai
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a_burgerThe exact angle isn’t so important as making sure it’s shaped properly to begin with. A good jump shouldn’t curve all throughout the takeoff, there should be transition at the bottom and then everything beyond that to the top of the lip should be a consistent grade. I typically try and use at least a rakes length (6 feet) of consistent grade before the top of the lip so you aren’t getting bucked at the very top. It is sucks trying to explain this to people who don’t spin off of jumps, as the problem isn’t that obvious if your just straight airing it and not popping at all.

Step ups and step overs are generally safer too but not necessary. I would try and make the landing twice as long as the gap if possible


6 feet rule is the only relevant piece of info here lol. OP do this.
Oct 19 2019 1:30AM
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CT_CREW
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Landing needs to be as steep as the take off, preferably a bit steeper. Landing should also be nice and long. As said before a "step over" style jump will have less impact. The "in run" is also very important, needs to be a designated drop in zone for the jump/jump line that allows users to generate enough speed to clear the gap, but not allow for a huge surplus of speed.
Oct 20 2019 10:09PM
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ESB
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Cerhardt161Okay ill make sure to remember that and for landings would it just be trying to match the angle of the takeoff

Build the landings first. Build them as big as possible. Then build the takeoffs to match the landings. I prefer takeoffs with an angle around 2 degrees steeper than the landing.
Oct 21 2019 1:52PM
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