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Waxing surface skis, wth?

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supersquid
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Anyone who owns surface skis know that they dont accept wax well at all. The wax just streaks up and the base refuses to soak it in. Cant see all their 2020 skis yet but the older ones had sintered bases which should except wax easier. Not sure if they changed that. Many people claim that surface skis are cheap. But the only thing that seems cheap to me are their bases. Shapes are super fun, top sheets dont chip to bad, new and cool graphics every year and sidewall construction. I love my outsiders and love my onelifes and even was thinking about buying some odysseys. But those damn bases will not except wax, just always has bothered me...
Aug 3 2019 8:49AM
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Non_State_Actor
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Hit 'em with Phantom!
Aug 3 2019 3:05PM
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Dunderflip
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i never had that problem, or at least never noticed it? my outsiders took wax just fine and im on balances rn, same story. i waxed my park blanks more frequently than my other pairs but i also rode them more often so shrug emoji
Aug 4 2019 3:26PM
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-eREKTion-
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The bases might be extruded, I don't really know much about Surface's construction. If that's the case, they're never really going to accept and hold wax. My park skis, Line Honey Badgers, have an extruded base so I have to change the way that I wax them. I don't scrape the wax off the base but instead brush the thick layer of wax 45 degrees both ways and then from tip to tail. It doesn't work great but it's the best you can do with an extruded base and it helps on warm slushy spring days. You will have to reapply often, though.
Aug 6 2019 7:21PM
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supersquid
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-eREKTion-The bases might be extruded, I don't really know much about Surface's construction. If that's the case, they're never really going to accept and hold wax. My park skis, Line Honey Badgers, have an extruded base so I have to change the way that I wax them. I don't scrape the wax off the base but instead brush the thick layer of wax 45 degrees both ways and then from tip to tail. It doesn't work great but it's the best you can do with an extruded base and it helps on warm slushy spring days. You will have to reapply often, though.


Bases are sintered. Ive waxed a lot of skis and these dont hold wax at all. That final spread you do with the iron to create an even and smooth layer all throughout the base just leaves streaks
Aug 6 2019 9:51PM
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SofaKingSick
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supersquidCant see all their 2020 skis yet but the older ones had sintered bases


not all of them. i don't know a ton about surface but i definitely was half considering a pair from them in the past few years and saw that some had extruded bases (which is bush league shit)
Aug 8 2019 10:44AM
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supersquid
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SofaKingSicknot all of them. i don't know a ton about surface but i definitely was half considering a pair from them in the past few years and saw that some had extruded bases (which is bush league shit)



My mistake, looked at the odysseys on the house.com and they had sintered bases. Didnt search through all models because their website was down awaiting 2020 skis. Either way its wack, such fun, wacky, interesting skis and they choose to skimp out on the little things... ya hate to see it
Aug 8 2019 11:34AM
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SofaKingSick
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supersquidMy mistake, looked at the odysseys on the house.com and they had sintered bases. Didnt search through all models because their website was down awaiting 2020 skis. Either way its wack, such fun, wacky, interesting skis and they choose to skimp out on the little things... ya hate to see it


100% agree, it's like building a nice bike and putting shitty slow wheels on it, it's just such a dumb way to skimp IMO. some people don't care but it's a deal breaker for me
Aug 8 2019 11:39AM
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Dunderflip
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supersquidThat final spread you do with the iron


do you iron again after scraping? never heard of that before but if it works it works I guess
Aug 8 2019 4:51PM
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supersquid
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Dunderflipdo you iron again after scraping? never heard of that before but if it works it works I guess


nah you spread it around and then at the very end you do one long steady pass that evens it all out.
Aug 8 2019 6:26PM
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KravtZ
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Got to a point on my old ones I rode a lot I would just wax a little layer on to it spread out and waxed it realllll good for like 20 minutes each. Didn't even bother scraping it worked fine
Aug 8 2019 7:02PM
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