RIP VERMONT

willyg0808my post keeps getting cut....

1.) Vail/pic pass makes skiing less accessible to lower income people & middle income newcomers. A large portion of Ohioans have tried skiing. This is because it is relatively affordable and accessible. I suspect a Mad River day pass + rental will no longer cost

idk if this is still a thing but did you use a "less than" or "greater than" sign? that at least used to be something that would mess posts up

KilaTsunamiAnyone who believes Carinthia is getting downsized is a ding dong.. I'm sure Mt Snow wont let their best hill get watered down...

As for yellow jackets? I think that terrain parks could use more patrol coverage just because every season the jerrys get dumber and dumber. Laying on the landings, standing on the lip... somebody needa teach em etiquette. Lets just hope that they leave all that "No Straightlining" horse shit out west.

They could easily hire someone to just stand at the top of gulch, inferno and nitro reminding all the old people that they're terrain park trails with kids flipping, grinding and crashing, not a fucking groomer run. One old lady once said in line "wow that was a fantastic groomer" after slowly making her way down nitro.

Titus69Seeing how park city closed first week of April after an insane snow year I dont expect Vail to keep anywhere open late, even if theres people who wanna ski they already have an epic pass so they dont care. Seems like if they're not gonna profit they wont stay open past a certain date, they have people doing the math for it all.

By summer season I mean summer activities* (biking, hiking, kids activities, etc.)

Titus69They could easily hire someone to just stand at the top of gulch, inferno and nitro reminding all the old people that they're terrain park trails with kids flipping, grinding and crashing, not a fucking groomer run. One old lady once said in line "wow that was a fantastic groomer" after slowly making her way down nitro.

Idiots.. I really do hope they introduce a free Park Pass for the park runs with big-ish features like Nitro, Gulch, Inferno, Ect. Last year, it was waaay too many non-park riders getting in everyones way in the big parks. I talked to a ski patroler and he said if you land on a jerry its your fault... so what? am I supposed to Ride down, Check the landing for someones child, Hike back and then hit ?? Fuck that, teach your kid the rules so i can throw hammers with peace of mind!!! What were doing is dangerous enough without Jerry laying on the landing.

Chubz.I’m more concerned with the tiny resorts in the Midwest...hopefully vail doesn’t increase ticket prices to 100+ dollars for hills with less than 700 ft of vert. Pretty sad to see this giant corporation snag up all these tiny resorts with the “mom & pop” feel to them.

But think about now you can buy the epic pass instead of wasting $400 on a season pass to garbage peak resorts. It might not seem like much, but once you graduate and don't get college discounts anymore, this kind of stuff matters. Seems like a win for Midwest folks, and a huge loss for western folks who will prob see an even larger increase in traffic now. If they raise tickets to those astronomical prices though, I would be concerned.

Also not sure why the title is RIP Vermont. Peak resorts only owned Mt snow in VT which was already a billion dollars a ticket. The rest of their properties are elsewhere.

willyg0808Booooo! Boo Vail boo Epic!! As an Ohio native who grew up spending 4+ days a week at Mad River Mountain in Ohio, I have just three comments.
1.) Vail/pic pass makes skiing less accessible to lower income people & middle income newcomers. A large portion of Ohioans have tried skiing. This is because it is relatively affordable and accessible. I suspect a Mad River day pass + rental will no longer cost

**This post was edited on Jul 24th 2019 at 9:53:25am

I kinda have to disagree. Mad river at its weekend day prices is $49 a ticket and rentals run $32/person. That's when most families would probably go skiing. Their season pass was already $400 for their "mountain" alone. That's a shit fuck ton of money for a 300' vert hill with a questionable 3 month season on 95% man made snow, poorly maintained park, and lift chairs that take 5min up for a 60sec skip downhill. That's a horrible value.

If you wanna expand your pass to include the rest of peak resorts unlimited no blackouts, for a pass it was $420 up through age 29, and then $850 for anyone older. That's not including to any trips you take out west spending additional hundreds or thousands of dollars on day passes.

Consider this while comparing prices now. The epic local pass is $650 and the regular epic pass is $940. I very much dislike vail and all their prices but this seems like a bargain for season pass holders.

Imo the IKON pass is still better, but that's another discussion for another day.

SofaKingSickidk if this is still a thing but did you use a "less than" or "greater than" sign? that at least used to be something that would mess posts up

Thanks homie.


1.) Vail/pic pass makes skiing less accessible to lower income people & middle income newcomers. A large portion of Ohioans have tried skiing. This is because it is relatively affordable and accessible. I suspect a Mad River day pass + rental will no longer cost $60. Being new to the corporate world, I can attest every chad archetype colleague of mine wants to buy an epic pass and be a skier. If you're wondering why lift lines are longer now than 5 years ago (at real resorts), it's because those archetypes have flooded the place. Epic has made skiing more accessible to those who can afford a season pass, not those in the lower/middle class who want to try the sport.
2.) The midwest peak resorts I had experience with had character. The park crew sold dabs and the liftys were ex cons. The hills were an oasis for teenagers wanting to do something constructive, be a part of a community and have freedom. The management set up big airs on the one main run, and midnight madness allowed you to ski until 2am. I suspect Vail/Epic will introduce plenty of rules. Who likes rules??? It's Ohio.
3.) Burgers will likely cost $15. Bullshit.

FogdartI kinda have to disagree. Mad river at its weekend day prices is $49 a ticket and rentals run $32/person. That's when most families would probably go skiing. Their season pass was already $400 for their "mountain" alone. That's a shit fuck ton of money for a 300' vert hill with a questionable 3 month season on 95% man made snow, poorly maintained park, and lift chairs that take 5min up for a 60sec skip downhill. That's a horrible value.

If you wanna expand your pass to include the rest of peak resorts unlimited no blackouts, for a pass it was $420 up through age 29, and then $850 for anyone older. That's not including to any trips you take out west spending additional hundreds or thousands of dollars on day passes.

Consider this while comparing prices now. The epic local pass is $650 and the regular epic pass is $940. I very much dislike vail and all their prices but this seems like a bargain for season pass holders.

Imo the IKON pass is still better, but that's another discussion for another day.

Admittedly I haven't been around over the past few years to monitor changes at Mad River, however I do still know some locals and some management (Mihnovets-marketing, Faber-GM and Al Fiel-park) pretty well.
If prices increased over the past few years, bummer. I get it tho. There still is a fat difference between $49/day and what they charge at other Vail resorts. Given the location and recency of the merge, I assume prices won't increase much this season. I do however guarantee they will trickle up over the next few years at rates that beat inflation. It has happened at literally every hill I know of when they became affiliated with an outside management company. Additionally, management is always willing to hook it up. They toss tickets out on the radio all the time, give church groups discounts, attend ASBCo events with discounted tickets, ComFest with discounted tickets, etc. Even if the window price is $49, you can almost certainly find a deal. We will see if that continues.