Opinion on My 2019/2020 New Setup??

Cole9Bruh since when does BC not have powder? What mountain are you at?

-arc-Same set up that I bought a couple years ago! Super fun in the park and great on groomers. I wish they were a bit stiffer to push through crud but in BC the snow is pretty light so heavy chop isn't an issue. Good luck and have fun!

Jeewoo_14Crazy I got the exact same set up haha, thanks and yea hopefully it won't be too wobbly for charging through crud on my mountains. Are the Vandals REALLY soft? Or are they like a happy medium

-arc-I'm heavier than you so there softer for me. They do ok, not noodles.

Jeewoo_14oh ok thank god, i totally forgot to check the flex cause i like to carve around a lot too and wobbly skis just ruin the experience

One more thing, are the tyrolia attack 11s adjustable if i get different boots?

**This post was edited on Mar 29th 2019 at 9:43:52pm

mystery3Mounted in the middle (normal mounting position) you can go up or down a size at least, if you make the tech aware of your thought they can mount them such that the bindings only have "room to grow" and you could get two full sizes out of them. Chances are by the time you need two sizes larger boots you'll be too tall for your skis and/or the skis will be done.

Jeewoo_14oh i see, thanks! Speaking of mounting positions, i should just mount it at center right

mystery3I wouldn't if you're planning to ski outside the park but others will have different opinions, I've not skied the Vandal. Where's recommended mount point?

Jeewoo_14not quite sure, i searched google and nothing came out. i did find a thread with a lot of people saying center or 1-3 cm begins if u ski more than just the park, all mountain i mean. Where do u think i might find that info?

mystery3https://4frnt.com/pages/ski-specifications


Looks like -5cm from center according to this chart: I don't know why it wants to paste up there but you get the idea. You might want to go up 2-2.5cm from recommended.

Please stick a piece of painter's tape across the boot center area, measure very carefully, and mark a nice straight line across the ski on the masking tape where you would like boot center, draw a little arrow to the line on both skis with a small clearly legible note indicating boot center. That will eliminate any confusion that my end up with your skis mounted other than the desired location.

Jeewoo_14oh that's what it meant, i see thanks a ton :) Also thanks for the advice but no way i'm gonna attempt to mount it myself haha

mystery3I wasn't giving you DIY mounting instructions. This is the procedure for taking your skis to a shop and picking them up actually mounted where you want them, if anywhere other than recommended. Don't trust the tech that mounts the skis is the same person you leave the skis with at the counter or paying attention or taking coherent notes or anything like that. Way to many threads of folks with skis mounted all over the place from 2.5cm in front of center to 2.5cm behind recommended. Don't let it happen to your new sticks.

Jeewoo_14great advice, thank you

Edit: before when u said 2-2.5 cm up from the recommended 5 cm, is that 5 cm the marked "midsole" on the ski or is that like 5 cm FROM the "midsole" mark? sorry i've always had pre prepared youth skis so i dunno a lot.

**This post was edited on Mar 30th 2019 at 1:32:17am

mystery3The recommended mount point is marked on the skis, usually a line on the topsheet or a dimple or other indicator mark on the sidewall, the "true" center or whatever you want to call tip to tail measurement divided by two isn't generally marked. The recommended mount point on that ski is *I believe* -5cm from "true" center. It gets a bit confusing with nomenclature and core center vs. true center and different people use other words for the same thing. This is why you mark skis that are to be mounted anywhere besides the line. Most techs mount skis all day on the line because people don't geek out on this stuff as hard as the good people on ski websites and the manufacturers test the skis in various conditions to determine the best spot for most people in most conditions.

Make sure to measure everything yourself. Measure the straight tape tip to tail, find the true center, measure the recommended line and it's relation to true center and then figure out where you want to mount. Do this on both skis as occasionally the marks can be off a touch. When you're finished only leave the line where you want it mounted.

-arc-For reference I mounted mine -2.5 from centre. Ski like a dream. Did my CSIA Level two on them. I'm a firm believer in skier ability over ski design. Ski design/mount will help but at the end of the day a good skier can ski a 2x4. You guys should try taking out a pair of skinny straight skis. That shit is hard as fuck.

Jeewoo_14sorry is that -2.5 from center or +2.5 from the recommended.

mystery3If recommended is -5? What's half of 5? It doesn't matter which side you measure it from.

Jeewoo_14oh.. right.. 5 - 2.5 isn't 3.5.. right

mystery3It's usually easier to use the recommended as a reference point and just measure from there anyway. That's why it's good to verify the recommended points are marked evenly on both skis.