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I suck at spins.....

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weenox
Posts: 1568 - Karma: 19
im not very good, but im lookin for tips.....

i can float 180's pretty well with grabs, but i just cant seem to do steezed out 3's. i can spin 3's, but with no style whatsoever, kinda like what you see the random 10 year old kid trying to do off of 6 inch jumps, but a little bit slower. my problem is that i cant smoothen the spin out. i've tried looking over my shoulder and that slows me down a little bit, but then i do like two 180's in the air and its really sketchy. i dunno, i guess im just wondering what the 'correct' way to spin is.....
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Feb 18 2005 11:42PM
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squawskier
Posts: 307 - Karma: 10
for a 3 dont wind up for the spin at all , just go off the takeoff with a little momentum and do a grab. After you do it enough times it will become natural and really easy
Feb 19 2005 12:10AM
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Feb 19 2005 2:51AM
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Meh42
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tuck up your legs while you spin
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Feb 19 2005 3:05AM
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Freeskier21
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loaf...wtf is 'partice'?

Anyway, the kid ^ is right about tucking your legs. Also, go a little bigger, it forces you to spin slower. the smaller the jump, the more convaluted your spin is, and the less time there is to control the spin.

When I was first learning, I looked for..how to explain this...jumps that started below the landing. Not a kicker or a table, but more of a lip, where you get speed below the lip, then its flat ground. If youve ever been to alta, below the wildcat lift there is a perfect example, a natural lip thats there every year...i think there are pictures of Nick Mercon switch rodeoing it somewhere on here.

anyway, hope thats not too confusing. I can draw a picture if you want to help explain.

Feb 19 2005 9:14AM
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nothanks
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yah but dont think i can get the 180 and then look for another one, think you need to spin the full 3 smooth, tucknig the legs up compacts your spin and the grab slows it down, styles it more(keeps your body in place)......just practice, on a medium sized stepdown, and you'll get it....what i did


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Feb 19 2005 9:20AM
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skiierman
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You want to know what I did? I just kept hitting jumps and kept on spinning. Eventually it becomes wicked natural and easy to do. Any jumps works, doesn't matter what kind really, it is just the jump you have sessioned the most and is most confortable with.





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Feb 19 2005 10:08AM
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holyDINOSAURS
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i have the same problem with the 2 180s. it dosnt feel like a complete spin...just a 180-180
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Feb 19 2005 12:14PM
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MRTN
Posts: 182 - Karma: 12
try using your arms then youll get a more smooth and even spin. tuck up your knees and try bigger jumps then yuou dont have to spin that fast and it will be more smooth. thank me!!
Feb 19 2005 1:59PM
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skirbrt88
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find a decent size table set a little spin but mostly look over ur shoulder and down towards the landing then tuck up and grab safety. For me if i can see the landing and where i am in the air its way esier to not spaz a simple grab helps a lot too cuase ur arms wont start flailin lurpee style



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Feb 19 2005 2:03PM
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Ban11
Posts: 1388 - Karma: 24
set the spin with your head, shoulders, hips, and skis, spinning all at the same time, that should reduce the 180-180 effect





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Feb 19 2005 8:18PM
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yeah I had that '180-180' problem until I realized that looking over your shoulder is bad. don't get me wrong though, you can look around a little bit, but you can't just throw your head around and spin-it completely scetches it out.

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Feb 19 2005 8:21PM
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Switchstyle
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i've had that lately like a recurring disease, just turn your whole body into it, not just that one shoulder
Feb 19 2005 9:38PM
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LeBlanc
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I look at the ground instead of over my shoulder for some reason, seems to work
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Feb 19 2005 9:43PM
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1080chubs
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some people wind up with straight arms, i find that to set it its easier to just push your bent arms into it slower, if you whip it, it will set you off balance, so just set, look over your shoulder, and make sure you just keep looking till you spot the landing, if you stop looking halfway through you'll have to pull it aroudn funny... so just spin it smooth man, practice up
Feb 19 2005 9:51PM
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jc_dunn
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Well if you want style... Just practice the more you do something the better you'll get at it. Look over your shoulder, but don't try to set the spin with your head. Instead set the spin with your shoulders and keep looking as you do this. Punch your right arm (spinning left) off across your body, and try to hold it in this position. When you look over your shoulder, instead of looking down at the angle of your jump, look into the air above the lip of the jump. This will naturally cause you to spin 360 instead of 180. Sorry for the lengthiness of this reply. I know all this cause i had the same problem.
Feb 20 2005 12:05AM
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freeskier1316
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you'll get the hang of it and the 2 180 sounds really funny and cool at the same time

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Feb 20 2005 12:24AM
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threejay
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i always overrotate my threes...i try not to set my spin at all..no arm movement at all...and i'm like super lazy in the air, but somehow I just keep spinning and land like 450ish..any help?


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Feb 20 2005 12:46AM
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SteezePatrol
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It will come, don't think about it too much, if you really wanna learn to 3 or 5 just fuckin huck your meat until you land it.

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Feb 20 2005 12:55AM
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funbox14
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no i suck at spins

May 14 2005 12:13PM
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michiganjibber
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May 14 2005 1:00PM
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Anathema
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you have to try it out, and don't be afraid of bailing, because you're going to. all the advice i can give is people tend to fall back when they spin, so try and lean a bit forward to compensate, like do a critical or safety grab or something a bit in front.


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May 14 2005 1:26PM
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bret
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^anathema has the best advice. make sure you come into the jump with your weight forward over your toes. remember to POP and turn your shoulders head and hips all in one motion. you don't need to look over your shoulder so much, just tuck up and before you know it your landing will come around and be there waiting for you.





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May 14 2005 2:03PM
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johanblaze
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touche

May 14 2005 2:25PM
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skiierman i just noticed you have a shitload of posts!

May 14 2005 2:26PM
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altarip55
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spin off everything. The more you do it, the more comfortable you get. Throw a safety grab in as well. Grabs force you to stay more compact = faster spins. Once you get comfortable, try them off bigger shit and boom, you got it.

May 14 2005 3:02PM
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TheWorst
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get a bigger jump and then just carve on the jump and dont wind up at all and you will have a steezy 3... but if you dont have a 90 or anything then windup minimally and try to go for a safety grab

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May 14 2005 3:08PM
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LesBainsDouches
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Don't lead w your head, centralize everything. Most of the ppl here have good tips, esp. how spinning off of everything you can find grinds the feeling into your muscle/mental memory, so you can even be guineapigging something with a spin since you've got all the spin speed to air time ratio dialled already.

May 14 2005 6:17PM
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vincepru
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when i lean foreward my spins seem corked. maybe im leaning too much?

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May 14 2005 8:20PM
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bermbuster49
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do a decent sized hit, and then just pop way hard with no wind-up so you dont look like a retard, and just turn with your legs tucked up, after you do that you will get your own style, keep at it.

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May 14 2005 8:26PM
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Nine_Milla_Killa
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carve off the lip, dont wind up or anything, just carve off, and keep looking that way, and hold you body position in a tucked up grabby way.

May 14 2005 8:33PM
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May 14 2005 8:34PM
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guddgulf17
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keep your eyes up. spot the takeoff at 180. dont stop your head, jsut notice it is there. also, be sure to get a nice pop, as that really helps with spin control.

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May 14 2005 8:45PM
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DaveHumphrey
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i had that 180-180 problem then i started to go off bigger hits and its fine

May 14 2005 8:52PM
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just do it



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May 15 2005 1:06AM
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shasta
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and to the dude who was always over-rotating, make sure that once u've spotted the landing to keep ur head facing straight down the hill.
that'll slow down ur spin



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May 15 2005 2:48AM
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TheWorst
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no your spins probably arent corked you probably just think you are cause you havent done an actual one yet your body is probably doing sorta a 7 with your torso just bending over your skis

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May 17 2005 5:14PM
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JackBach
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Practice and confidence. Set your rotation appropiately for the amount of time you have in the air. If you're hitting small jumps, it limits your ability to rotate slower (obviously).

It seems like simple advice but I dealt with the same problem a few years back. After awhile you become VERY comfortable with the spin and you'll naturally "steeze it out," or however you'd like to refer to it.


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May 17 2005 5:55PM
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AngryFromBend
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DO UR FIRST 3 OFF A 80 FOOT TABLE...THAT WAY YOU'LLL LEARN REAL QUICK

May 17 2005 6:40PM
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vincepru
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we dont have jumps that are that nice/big that you can carve off of. this goes for me and weenox

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May 17 2005 7:01PM
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lineskis_16
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turn your head and it will keep you spinning


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May 17 2005 7:18PM
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timoski
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^ a step up?

definately try tucking up your legs, and try to focus in your sshoulders, i throw it mostly with my leading shoulder and use the other one to kind of reciprocate or baloance the spin

when you get to 180 i sort of freeze my body position and just trust that the spin will pull me around--i htink that looks good usually

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May 18 2005 3:10PM
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timoski
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oh yea once you freeze your body position i look directly down at teh ground to se how far i have to spin (kind of like doing spins onto rails and spotting the rail)

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May 18 2005 3:12PM
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bighit
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right off the lip of the jump be looking down and to the left (most likey ur nat way of spinning) and it will just go...grab saftey and it will be smooth. The key is to visulize what ur gonna do in the air and then before u think about doing it just do it. Also when i say look down i dont mean look sraight down at the ground... i just find that if u teach threes to people who have trouble doing them and u are like "just look over ur shoulder" then they end up getting corked and dieing...funny to watch not funny for the skier...thats all im trying to say...and of course practice..once u get one dont stop and if u fall dont get discouraged even if it is a bad fall....that can fuck u up good...u fall and are like "ok im done for the day next time i come out ill just throw them" if u do that u wont and it will take a very long time to master smooth threes...perseistance is key

May 18 2005 6:28PM
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TheWorst
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or you could just stop being a pussy cause we all no thats the case... -ps i love you

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May 30 2005 11:23AM
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aznpcskier
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stop being a pussy and learn how to grab. 3s r fukin easy a fetis could do one.

May 30 2005 2:48PM
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bigsoxfan
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^ wow guy way to be a prick. the guy was just askin for help...

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May 30 2005 4:49PM
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Antoine.
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allways look to where ur going

May 30 2005 4:55PM
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KillerMonkey
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i did not read any of the posts but heres what i have to say. I'v had that same problem before. I always tried to hard to spin threes. I usually started spinning at the jump. But heres hot to fix it. Pop straight first and wait then spin. It def helped me i dunno about you though

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May 30 2005 5:47PM
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T.L.
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the best thing for me that helps style and stuff is stretching alot before you ski. i've found that its a whole lot easier to grab and huck yourself nice and stylie

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May 30 2005 5:51PM
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gambino500014
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yea i love stylish hucking


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May 30 2005 6:24PM
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