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nopeda
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In the past I've always worn long underwear then a flannel shirt and bluejeans over that, and then put on other stuff from there. But several places I've seen people suggest staying away from cotton entirely which I'm guessing flannel and bluejeans are both made of. Most places suggest fleece. Is that just jogging/sweatshirt type clothing and is it good to wear that instead of flannel or bluejeans? I always wear an outer shell jacket and ski pants both gortex, so just long underwear, fleece, and ski pants for covering your lower body? Is that good enough or is there a more sturdy type of pants that's good to wear between the fleece and ski pants that's not made of cotton? And that would do well as a sturdy pant over the fleece when not wearing ski pants when you're not skiing or snowmobiling? What about a non-cotton shirt to take the place of flannel? Just do a fleece jogging or sweatshirt type of thing?

Thank you for any help about such basics!
David
Jan 27 2019 7:27PM
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CalumSKI
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nopedaIn the past I've always worn long underwear then a flannel shirt and bluejeans over that, and then put on other stuff from there. But several places I've seen people suggest staying away from cotton entirely which I'm guessing flannel and bluejeans are both made of. Most places suggest fleece. Is that just jogging/sweatshirt type clothing and is it good to wear that instead of flannel or bluejeans? I always wear an outer shell jacket and ski pants both gortex, so just long underwear, fleece, and ski pants for covering your lower body? Is that good enough or is there a more sturdy type of pants that's good to wear between the fleece and ski pants that's not made of cotton? And that would do well as a sturdy pant over the fleece when not wearing ski pants when you're not skiing or snowmobiling? What about a non-cotton shirt to take the place of flannel? Just do a fleece jogging or sweatshirt type of thing?

Thank you for any help about such basics!
David


you wear jeans skiing? Very Bad decision
wear something like sweatpants cause they are warmer and are more cozy after you get off the hill
Jan 27 2019 8:28PM
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HypeBeast
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Would you run a mile in jeans? If not, then why wear them skiing? Cotton is horrible and never wear it because when it gets wet, it stays wet and heavy. Also jeans make you look like a total Jerry.

I usually wear leggings/long underwear of some sort of wool or polyester as my base layer (Under Armour is quite useful), then sweatpants (non-cotton) and fleece pullover, then snowpants and jacket. Usually 3-4 total layers and kept me warm down to -10F air temp. Can always take layers off.
Jan 28 2019 1:29AM
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tsingtaofanatic
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merino
Jan 28 2019 1:52AM
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xxACIDTRIPxx
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1. Under armour 3.0 top/bottom
2. Shell outerwear

It gets a lil cold on the chairlift but this is what I wear 99% of the time.
On a reallllly cold day I will add a fleece layer to this.

**This post was edited on Jan 28th 2019 at 3:06:19am
Jan 28 2019 2:39AM
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Sharko
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I was hoping your questions would be even more basic, like “how do I put a sock on?” or “what is a shirt?”

Anyway, on top: merino baselayer, puffy insulator, then shell.
On bottom: merino baselayer (the ones that end mid calf so they don’t go under your boots), then shell
Jan 28 2019 3:00AM
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Youngm_IPCME
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It really depends. When it’s above zero, I wear shorts and a base layer shirt, then a thin sweater, then snow pants and a thick sweater. Considering it doesn’t usually get colder than that in Utah, that’s about it.

**This post was edited on Jan 28th 2019 at 4:51:41pm
Jan 28 2019 10:45AM
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losh
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I don't really even own a "proper shell' i layer a long sleeve with a hoodie, maybe t shirt if its chilly, then 1-2 thin outer layers. I basically never get cold, and I absolutely never get wet. Half of what I wear is just XL thrift store finds tbh
Jan 28 2019 11:39AM
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DirtYStylE
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Yeah cotton absorbs water, while fleece and wool don't.

That said I prefer a cotton base layer with another base layer on top to make sure the cotton dosen't get wet from snow. I just like it to absorb my sweat.
Jan 28 2019 12:30PM
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nopeda
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DirtYStylEYeah cotton absorbs water, while fleece and wool don't.

That said I prefer a cotton base layer with another base layer on top to make sure the cotton dosen't get wet from snow. I just like it to absorb my sweat.
Well that makes sense. What happens if you don't have a layer to absorb your own sweat? Does it puddle up in your pants and boots?
Jan 28 2019 7:37PM
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everlast
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I floss my teeth with girls g strings :)
Jan 28 2019 8:02PM
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Non_State_Actor
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DirtYStylEYeah cotton absorbs water, while fleece and wool don't.

That said I prefer a cotton base layer with another base layer on top to make sure the cotton dosen't get wet from snow. I just like it to absorb my sweat.


A good quality baselayer should "wick" the moisture away from your skin.

OP: don't wear jeans whilst skiing. Fleece is great if needed. Mid-layers are a thing. Flannels come in wool varieties, though the can be itchy in my experience.

I wear base layer bottom and my bib is lined but not insulated, on top base layer + jacket if it's warmish, base layer + mid (which is basically a looser fitting base layer with a stand up collar) and jacket if it' colder 10-30F or so. If it's below 10F then I'll wear liner gloves inside my mittens and be cold. It doesn't usually get that cold in Tahoe where I ski most frequently.
Jan 28 2019 11:28PM
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nopeda
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mystery3A good quality baselayer should "wick" the moisture away from your skin.

OP: don't wear jeans whilst skiing. Fleece is great if needed. Mid-layers are a thing. Flannels come in wool varieties, though the can be itchy in my experience.

I wear base layer bottom and my bib is lined but not insulated, on top base layer + jacket if it's warmish, base layer + mid (which is basically a looser fitting base layer with a stand up collar) and jacket if it' colder 10-30F or so. If it's below 10F then I'll wear liner gloves inside my mittens and be cold. It doesn't usually get that cold in Tahoe where I ski most frequently.

Thanks to suggestions people have given I'm planning to order one or two wool flannel shirts, but it seems the only options are for pre-owned. I don't have a problem with that, but why are there no or at least if any very few options to buy new wool flannel shirts on ebay?

Another thing that's confusing me now is about wicking your sweat away. Cotton will absorb and contain it, but if you get the correct other base materials and other layers will it really wick all your sweat away from your body out to the atmosphere through several layers of clothing? And if so, what about salt deposits etc within the layers along the way? I'm sorry to be so ignorant about such basic things.
Jan 29 2019 12:12AM
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Non_State_Actor
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nopedaThanks to suggestions people have given I'm planning to order one or two wool flannel shirts, but it seems the only options are for pre-owned. I don't have a problem with that, but why are there no or at least if any very few options to buy new wool flannel shirts on ebay?

Another thing that's confusing me now is about wicking your sweat away. Cotton will absorb and contain it, but if you get the correct other base materials and other layers will it really wick all your sweat away from your body out to the atmosphere through several layers of clothing? And if so, what about salt deposits etc within the layers along the way? I'm sorry to be so ignorant about such basic things.


https://www.evo.com/shop?text=wool+flannel

If you wait until spring some of these may be highly discounted, also check other discount outdoors type sites.

As far as "breathablity" goes, I don't have a great understanding of the tech. I think wool and polyester and blends hold some of the moisture but don't hold it on your skin.
Jan 29 2019 12:28AM
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DirtYStylE
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nopedaWell that makes sense. What happens if you don't have a layer to absorb your own sweat? Does it puddle up in your pants and boots?

You have to sweat buckets for it to pool up. I like the cotton T because it absorbs the sweat. If you have a waterwicking base layer on your skin it keeps the moisture locked in and it gets really grimy.
mystery3A good quality baselayer should "wick" the moisture away from your skin.

OP: don't wear jeans whilst skiing. Fleece is great if needed. Mid-layers are a thing. Flannels come in wool varieties, though the can be itchy in my experience.

I wear base layer bottom and my bib is lined but not insulated, on top base layer + jacket if it's warmish, base layer + mid (which is basically a looser fitting base layer with a stand up collar) and jacket if it' colder 10-30F or so. If it's below 10F then I'll wear liner gloves inside my mittens and be cold. It doesn't usually get that cold in Tahoe where I ski most frequently.

Thats the thing. Where does it wick the moisture too? Do you have a mid layer absorbs moisture? Then if you get snow in your jacket this midlayer will absorb water from snow which is not great either
Jan 29 2019 1:01PM
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nopeda
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DirtYStylEYou have to sweat buckets for it to pool up. I like the cotton T because it absorbs the sweat. If you have a waterwicking base layer on your skin it keeps the moisture locked in and it gets really grimy.

Thats the thing. Where does it wick the moisture too? Do you have a mid layer absorbs moisture? Then if you get snow in your jacket this midlayer will absorb water from snow which is not great either

What do you suggest for that then? As of now I've bought Polartec Powerdry for a base, but they are so light and thin it's hard to believe they can provide any significant amount of warmth. Plan on regular cotton underpants and a polyester t-shirt undershirt, then polyester fleece over the Powerdry, then a 100% wool flannel shirt, fleece jogger pants then these over them:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pants-Winter-Outdoor-Hiking-Mens-Trousers-Ski-Windproof-Waterproof-Fleece-Sports/263750971652?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=562961273073&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

and gortex shell jacket and ski pants over everything.

**This post was edited on Feb 3rd 2019 at 11:12:23pm
Feb 3 2019 10:55PM
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IHUFFPAINT
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Jeans=bad time
Feb 5 2019 11:36PM
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Sharko
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nopedaWhat do you suggest for that then? As of now I've bought Polartec Powerdry for a base, but they are so light and thin it's hard to believe they can provide any significant amount of warmth. Plan on regular cotton underpants and a polyester t-shirt undershirt, then polyester fleece over the Powerdry, then a 100% wool flannel shirt, fleece jogger pants then these over them:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pants-Winter-Outdoor-Hiking-Mens-Trousers-Ski-Windproof-Waterproof-Fleece-Sports/263750971652?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=562961273073&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

and gortex shell jacket and ski pants over everything.

**This post was edited on Feb 3rd 2019 at 11:12:23pm


Why so many layers dude? You're gonna wear 4 shirts? Cotton gets wet, cheaper poly usually doesn't breathe well.

Top: Merino (or some tech fabric) baselayer, then insulating layer (puffy jacket if cold, or fleece if warm weather), then shell.
bottom: merino baselayer, then shell pants.
Feb 6 2019 3:29AM
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skiguy04
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Socks doubled up
Long John double up
Leggings
3 T-shirt’s
Hoody
Scarf
Mitts

Your welcome
Feb 9 2019 4:40PM
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vibecheck
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1. Get super glue
2. Bathe in said glue
3. Carefully apply cotton balls all over your body
4. Fuzzy and Very Warm
Feb 12 2019 11:20PM
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FruitBootPro
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Ok so you gotta wear a 3xl tall tee under an xxl hoodie under a 3xl puffy vest and sweatpants under 2xl snowpants with suspenders. Don't forget the beanie and the Full Tilts, and you'll be good to go
Feb 13 2019 12:53AM
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Youngm_IPCME
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TheVictatorOk so you gotta wear a 3xl tall tee under an xxl hoodie under a 3xl puffy vest and sweatpants under 2xl snowpants with suspenders. Don't forget the beanie and the Full Tilts, and you'll be good to go


Don’t forget, suspenders down and you need skullcandy icons over the beanie. Array bandanas in various places as a finishing touch.

**This post was edited on Feb 13th 2019 at 1:28:23am
Feb 13 2019 1:27AM
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Cryptno
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nopedaIn the past I've always worn long underwear then a flannel shirt and bluejeans over that, and then put on other stuff from there. But several places I've seen people suggest staying away from cotton entirely which I'm guessing flannel and bluejeans are both made of. Most places suggest fleece. Is that just jogging/sweatshirt type clothing and is it good to wear that instead of flannel or bluejeans? I always wear an outer shell jacket and ski pants both gortex, so just long underwear, fleece, and ski pants for covering your lower body? Is that good enough or is there a more sturdy type of pants that's good to wear between the fleece and ski pants that's not made of cotton? And that would do well as a sturdy pant over the fleece when not wearing ski pants when you're not skiing or snowmobiling? What about a non-cotton shirt to take the place of flannel? Just do a fleece jogging or sweatshirt type of thing?

Thank you for any help about such basics!
David


I usually go shorts than a shell on mild days and then for really cold days I wear long johns, wool pants, and a lighter waterproof shell.
Feb 13 2019 2:11AM
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Non_State_Actor
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CryptnoI usually go shorts than a shell on mild days and then for really cold days I wear long johns, wool pants, and a lighter waterproof shell.


You have wool pants? Are the like suit pants/trousers? Knickers?
Feb 13 2019 2:14AM
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DirtYStylE
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nopedaWhat do you suggest for that then? As of now I've bought Polartec Powerdry for a base, but they are so light and thin it's hard to believe they can provide any significant amount of warmth. Plan on regular cotton underpants and a polyester t-shirt undershirt, then polyester fleece over the Powerdry, then a 100% wool flannel shirt, fleece jogger pants then these over them:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pants-Winter-Outdoor-Hiking-Mens-Trousers-Ski-Windproof-Waterproof-Fleece-Sports/263750971652?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=562961273073&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

and gortex shell jacket and ski pants over everything.

**This post was edited on Feb 3rd 2019 at 11:12:23pm


Its all about preference. I like to dress really warm and keep my vents open. Then if its a cold day I close my vents. No need to adjust my layers and check the temps. I met a guy that was wearing the same jacket as me. He only had a single base layer, while I had my usual.

I grab any pair of clean sweatpants. Usually cotton, because my pants have never gotten wet. No need for specialty items here. My snow pants keep me dry all day everyday.

I got an Armada base layer. Waterwicking 100% polyester. Not a fan of polyester on my skin so I wear a tshirt under it. Like you said, it does not hold much warmth. So thats why I like a bit of cotton to keep a stable temp for my core. Then I have my mid layer. An insulated flannel. This is for warmth, and if you get snow down the front/back of your jacket it won't absorb like cotton (when I first started skiing it was a hoodie, it was almost a guarantee that the hood would be soaked by the end of the day) If it does absorb some it won't go through the insulation. Then the outerlayer.
Feb 14 2019 6:38PM
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SuspiciousFish
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I get really hot when I ski so I keep my layers pretty basic. I typically wear a long sleeve synthetic shirt with a synthetic t shirt over it then my 686 Jacket. For legs I have synthetic Oakley long johns then just my snow pants over that.
Feb 14 2019 6:56PM
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OregonDead
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mystery3You have wool pants? Are the like suit pants/trousers? Knickers?

I used to wear some german military pants a lot for xc skiing. Wore them with gators though so they wouldn't get wet at the cuffs. Probably could rock them just fine on a nice day without the gators though.
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