Water Logged Skis

In all seriousness, I wonder if putting them in like a bathtub full of rice would work. Kind of stupid but if it works with phones and shit it can probably work with skis to an extent.

You have edge cracks or delamination somewhere?

I'd start saving up or searching for a deal on skis.

Njk1918I was skiing earlier today when my heal peace binding just fell off when i was doing a very small turn would not count it as carving. When I got home and looked at it more there was a small bump where the binding was and there was still water in the wholes after they sat in my heated car and I had the whole pointing down to drain all the water out.It might just be a bad mount job but they were mounted almost a year ago or it could be totally something else just looking for some other opinions at this point.

To my knowledge, most shops use glue to both strengthen the bond and weather proof the mounting. Whether they didn't cure properly or the glue wasn't applied good enough, I don't know, but I'm guessing that was your failure point. There are a number of ways shops could fix this but it's not guaranteed.

mystery3You have edge cracks or delamination somewhere?

I'd start saving up or searching for a deal on skis.

No edge cracks that I can see no delaminations at this point idk what the issue is. I'm eyeing a pair of magnus 90 but waiting to pull the trigger

Heal peace

Njk1918I was skiing earlier today when my heal peace binding just fell off when i was doing a very small turn would not count it as carving. When I got home and looked at it more there was a small bump where the binding was and there was still water in the wholes after they sat in my heated car and I had the whole pointing down to drain all the water out.It might just be a bad mount job but they were mounted almost a year ago or it could be totally something else just looking for some other opinions at this point.

Sounds like water ingress to the core around the screws.
How reputable was the shop that mounted them? Were they the kind of of shop who tended to deal with track bindings rather than direct mount bindings? Because I have experience of those kinds of shops not using any or enough glue when mounting bindings. Reputable shops will use waterproof wood glue to mount the bindings, to water seal the holes into the laminate to stop this happening. (some people call for epoxy into the holes but this means the connection to the ski is stronger than the core and the core wood will fail before the glue, making a bigger hole in a pull out situation, likely ruining any chance of a remount in the same place, a choice generally reserved for somebody skiing no-fall terrain or high consequence features who require a stronger mount and will replace a ski after a pull out).

Depending on the extent of the water ingress it might be possible to have the holes "heli-coiled" (a plastic insert to replace the material damaged in a tear out) and the heel piece remounted. Most reputable shops will be able to do this for you for a cost. If you think it was a bad mount from the shop, it might be worth a calm, respectful conversation with them about how they mounted the ski and what they can do to put it right. Go in with the thought that if you had one mount fail from them do you still trust them to mount the skis properly again? If you're unsure, don't simply settle for a free re-mount you don't trust rather than pay a small cost to have a remount from somewhere else you do trust, a bad mount can hurt you.

razors-chazSounds like water ingress to the core around the screws.
How reputable was the shop that mounted them? Were they the kind of of shop who tended to deal with track bindings rather than direct mount bindings? Because I have experience of those kinds of shops not using any or enough glue when mounting bindings. Reputable shops will use waterproof wood glue to mount the bindings, to water seal the holes into the laminate to stop this happening. (some people call for epoxy into the holes but this means the connection to the ski is stronger than the core and the core wood will fail before the glue, making a bigger hole in a pull out situation, likely ruining any chance of a remount in the same place, a choice generally reserved for somebody skiing no-fall terrain or high consequence features who require a stronger mount and will replace a ski after a pull out).

Depending on the extent of the water ingress it might be possible to have the holes "heli-coiled" (a plastic insert to replace the material damaged in a tear out) and the heel piece remounted. Most reputable shops will be able to do this for you for a cost. If you think it was a bad mount from the shop, it might be worth a calm, respectful conversation with them about how they mounted the ski and what they can do to put it right. Go in with the thought that if you had one mount fail from them do you still trust them to mount the skis properly again? If you're unsure, don't simply settle for a free re-mount you don't trust rather than pay a small cost to have a remount from somewhere else you do trust, a bad mount can hurt you.

its a new shop but the tech that mounted them is marker certified if that means anything and they are track mounted not direct

Njk1918its a new shop but the tech that mounted them is marker certified if that means anything and they are track mounted not direct

Are they Marker Free 7/8/10, Squire, Griffon or Jester Bindings? If so, although the heel piece is on a track it's not really what I meant. When I say track I mean the bindings are slid onto tracks that are integrated into the skis like you see on race, rental and flat tailed groomer skis. Most "direct mount" skis have some sort of track in the heel to allow for 20-30mm adjustment for new boots with different sole lengths without the need to remount.

If the tech is marker certified they should know how to mount bindings properly using the proper glue etc. but its not a given. As I said, a calm, respectful conversation about what they can do to sort you out is the best route. They sound like they should be able to heli-coil your heel piece back on as long as the damage to the core isnt bad. I can't tell you without looking at the ski in person.

razors-chazAre they Marker Free 7/8/10, Squire, Griffon or Jester Bindings? If so, although the heel piece is on a track it's not really what I meant. When I say track I mean the bindings are slid onto tracks that are integrated into the skis like you see on race, rental and flat tailed groomer skis. Most "direct mount" skis have some sort of track in the heel to allow for 20-30mm adjustment for new boots with different sole lengths without the need to remount.

If the tech is marker certified they should know how to mount bindings properly using the proper glue etc. but its not a given. As I said, a calm, respectful conversation about what they can do to sort you out is the best route. They sound like they should be able to heli-coil your heel piece back on as long as the damage to the core isnt bad. I can't tell you without looking at the ski in person.

They are the squires. ok I am taking the skis to the shop later because the tech wants to take a look at them and currently talking to the company about warranty

If the tech is certain that they mounted the binding completely correctly and its not possible for them to remount them because of damage to the core you may be looking at a warranty case for the skis.
I'd usually recommend letting the shop deal with a warranty claim as they will have a local dealer/direct contact with the company meaning they should be able to sort the issue quicker, either by replacing the skis from the store's stock and them then settling it with the company or the store getting in a new pair from the company/dealer sent to the store. the ski company might just direct you back to the store for your warranty for this reason.

razors-chazIf the tech is certain that they mounted the binding completely correctly and its not possible for them to remount them because of damage to the core you may be looking at a warranty case for the skis.
I'd usually recommend letting the shop deal with a warranty claim as they will have a local dealer/direct contact with the company meaning they should be able to sort the issue quicker, either by replacing the skis from the store's stock and them then settling it with the company or the store getting in a new pair from the company/dealer sent to the store. the ski company might just direct you back to the store for your warranty for this reason.

That would be ideal but the company does not go through dealers they are strictly sold online through their own website the skis are practically made to order so it will fall on to me when it comes to contacting the company on the warranty case. The skis were bought last February and the paperwork says the skis come with 2 year warranty.

Njk1918That would be ideal but the company does not go through dealers they are strictly sold online through their own website the skis are practically made to order so it will fall on to me when it comes to contacting the company on the warranty case. The skis were bought last February and the paperwork says the skis come with 2 year warranty.

I was more thinking of some of the bigger ski companies where they like to keep inquiries through their preferred channels, to make sure nothing gets missed or is handled badly. I'm sure the small company you're riding on will be more than happy to help if the store tech isnt able to do anything to sort you out.

Update*** the techs I took it too said the wood ripped and the whole core in that area became weak and that a remount is possible but most likely will happen again. The manufacture said it is not a defect on their end so it's not a warranty case

Njk1918Update*** the techs I took it too said the wood ripped and the whole core in that area became weak and that a remount is possible but most likely will happen again. The manufacture said it is not a defect on their end so it's not a warranty case

What ski company? Sounds like water got in from a bad mount job (if there’s no delam or edge cracks).

f100prerunnerWhat ski company? Sounds like water got in from a bad mount job (if there’s no delam or edge cracks).

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