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If a basin built a masterplanned small village at the base of A Basin would the condos and houses sell?

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dolanslebensraum
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Perhaps you would need to have oxygen concentrating machines in the rooms, but i imagine it would feel good to be surrounded by snow in the middle of summer.
Whats Stopping them from doing this?
Dec 11 2018 4:43PM
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evaroni
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It’s been easier to build/develop other places. Just wait a few years and the Forrest service will take the payout and there will be condos and homes in the six figure range that are occupied an average of 20 days per year.
Dec 11 2018 4:46PM
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dolanslebensraum
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evaroniIt’s been easier to build/develop other places. Just wait a few years and the Forrest service will take the payout and there will be condos and homes in the six figure range that are occupied an average of 20 days per year.


Why do you think they would be unpopular, bc altitude sickness?
Dec 11 2018 4:51PM
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theabortionator
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evaroniIt’s been easier to build/develop other places. Just wait a few years and the Forrest service will take the payout and there will be condos and homes in the six figure range that are occupied an average of 20 days per year.


That's a dope thing about Aspen. Housing can be tough ish, but plenty of 5+ mil homes sitting empty other than christmas, feb break, and some random week in the summer.
Dec 11 2018 4:52PM
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Willgum
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When you mentioned the Oxygen machines I was about to say suck it up but then I checked the elevation and holy fuck 10k feet at the base. Wonder what effects people have from living at 10k for months at a time.
Dec 11 2018 4:55PM
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evaroni
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DolanReloadedWhy do you think they would be unpopular, bc altitude sickness?


Think path of least resistance.
Dec 11 2018 4:57PM
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losh
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People get mad af when they touch anything at A-Basin. People were mad steamed about the new beavers lift this year, and they didn't even build a road to make the lift, they saved an insane amount of trees. The whole lure of A-Basin is the fact that they don't do things like build houses on it, it's the least developed for a reason and everyone wants it to stay that way. Will it stay that way forever? Probably not, but the locals will put up one hell of a fight if they ever try to stick an ugly ass hotel there. Tourists don't really ski there anyways since it's so much gnarlier than the surrounding resorts, 73% of the mountain is black or double black, tourists don't like that.
Dec 11 2018 5:08PM
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miker92
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They'd sell instantaneously for ridiculous amounts of money. I hope to god I never see the day.

I'd imagine the reason this hasn't happened is some combination of land use restrictions and A-bay's professed dedication to an older kind of skiing that doesn't rely on the real estate and amenity driven business model Vail Resorts has pioneered over the last 25 years. It's about the skiing, dammit, and that parking lot is sacred.

As someone who's done plenty of skiing and other shenanigans there and in that area, I can say that altitude is a non-issue. If you're already living in the Denver/Golden/Boulder area--CO residents looking to skirt I-70 traffic would almost certainly be the primary market for such condos--going up to 10-12k will make you a little more winded than usual when you exercise but for the most part won't mess you up (though, admittedly, altitude sickness can be strange and unpredictable).
Dec 11 2018 5:09PM
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theabortionator
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WillgumWhen you mentioned the Oxygen machines I was about to say suck it up but then I checked the elevation and holy fuck 10k feet at the base. Wonder what effects people have from living at 10k for months at a time.


It's more than 10k I think. Idk, you get used to it pretty easy. I lived at 9500 for a couple summers. Drank more than I've drank in my life, road hard, hiked a bunch, and didn't die.

I don't know if I've actually read anything but I feel like it's healthy to live at altitude. I know it's good athletic wise. Idk. 11k ain't gonna kill you.
Dec 11 2018 5:11PM
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Film.
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theabortionatorThat's a dope thing about Aspen. Housing can be tough ish, but plenty of 5+ mil homes sitting empty other than christmas, feb break, and some random week in the summer.


Great thing about that though is ski bums can occupy them and be the housekeepers. While Joey Diaz isn't the biggest ski bum I would love to get that gig https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcfEBhkD6qw
Dec 11 2018 5:11PM
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theabortionator
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Film.Great thing about that though is ski bums can occupy them and be the housekeepers. While Joey Diaz isn't the biggest ski bum I would love to get that gig https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcfEBhkD6qw


For sure. Actually was hooking up with a housekeeper on red mountain a bunch. Was dope to kick it in a hottub overlooking aspen that neither of us paid millions for.

Would be a sweet gig to end up with.
Dec 11 2018 5:15PM
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Chunderface
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Holy hematocrit, batman.
Dec 11 2018 5:20PM
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SkiBum.
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WillgumWhen you mentioned the Oxygen machines I was about to say suck it up but then I checked the elevation and holy fuck 10k feet at the base. Wonder what effects people have from living at 10k for months at a time.


Besides taking more water to cook your rice, none.

High elevation living is nothing new. Some say it’s healither. It’s only 10,000k.
Dec 11 2018 5:28PM
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losh
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theabortionatorIt's more than 10k I think. Idk, you get used to it pretty easy. I lived at 9500 for a couple summers. Drank more than I've drank in my life, road hard, hiked a bunch, and didn't die.

I don't know if I've actually read anything but I feel like it's healthy to live at altitude. I know it's good athletic wise. Idk. 11k ain't gonna kill you.


I actually read an article that said living at altitude can fuck with your mental health, and that's part of the reason why suicide rates among people living in the Rockys are like 3 times higher than the national average. Could be a number of other factors, but they attributed high altitude to it. I don't think the research is super sound yet, but it was a pretty recent article. But living at altitude makes you feel like a super hero when you drink at sea level which is cool.
Dec 11 2018 5:32PM
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CLQ
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This is the worst idea i've ever heard
Dec 11 2018 5:42PM
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theabortionator
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loshI actually read an article that said living at altitude can fuck with your mental health, and that's part of the reason why suicide rates among people living in the Rockys are like 3 times higher than the national average. Could be a number of other factors, but they attributed high altitude to it. I don't think the research is super sound yet, but it was a pretty recent article. But living at altitude makes you feel like a super hero when you drink at sea level which is cool.


Hmm interesting. I thought some of that had to do with winter, rural areas etc. Idk. Either way a little altitude ain't too bad. at 6500 feet now. Might as well be sea level.
Dec 11 2018 5:47PM
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Willgum
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theabortionatorIt's more than 10k I think. Idk, you get used to it pretty easy. I lived at 9500 for a couple summers. Drank more than I've drank in my life, road hard, hiked a bunch, and didn't die.

I don't know if I've actually read anything but I feel like it's healthy to live at altitude. I know it's good athletic wise. Idk. 11k ain't gonna kill you.


SkiBum.Besides taking more water to cook your rice, none.

High elevation living is nothing new. Some say it’s healither. It’s only 10,000k.


Yeah I can imagine your body adapts pretty well. I'm wondering if there's any effects to the brain, mood, cognitive function, etc... There's a few papers that suggest things like that but it isn't highly studied : https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK232882/
Dec 11 2018 6:02PM
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theabortionator
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WillgumYeah I can imagine your body adapts pretty well. I'm wondering if there's any effects to the brain, mood, cognitive function, etc... There's a few papers that suggest things like that but it isn't highly studied : https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK232882/


I wonder what the threshold is for it being positive for most people if there is one. I feel like some altitude is beneficial but maybe that's just winter and the mountains not an altitude thing at all.
Dec 11 2018 6:05PM
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cool_name
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WillgumWhen you mentioned the Oxygen machines I was about to say suck it up but then I checked the elevation and holy fuck 10k feet at the base. Wonder what effects people have from living at 10k for months at a time.


you would become a faster runner, living at altitude changes your blood or something
Dec 11 2018 7:49PM
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Done_and_done
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A long long time ago Abasin did have lodging in the main Aframe lodge.
Up until about 10 years ago you could also camp in the parking lots, it was quite a rowdy scene.
The growing popularity has forced the ski area to focus on day traffic not being a resort.
Abasin is one of the few ski areas in Colorado who weekend after weekend struggle with over crowding.

And yes the demand for more housing in Summit County would undoubtedly help sell any new available units at the Basin, very quickly.
The lack of available land, avalanche paths, and public opinion will prevent it from ever happening.

I work at the basin and frequently sleep up on Loveland pass, the elevation is not that extreme. Drink more water if you feel sick.
On a side note;
The Beavers chair was despised at first by locals, but the skiing has been great this year with more acreage to spread out crowds.
I pray abasin never has base area lodging but am optimistic for the future without a vail epic pass.
Dec 11 2018 8:15PM
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lauraobermeyer
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quick delete this before vail sees it
Dec 11 2018 9:26PM
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r00kie
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They won't need to build to draw more people to draw out of towners while the vail deal is active. People just stay in Keystone. Lodging is more or less needed to compete in summit county, so the epic deal is a good alternative.
Dec 11 2018 10:10PM
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ObjectMocked
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Keystone is already pretty much Abasin housing. If they built housing up at the base I’d kill myself
Dec 12 2018 4:21PM
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