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J_skisBoth are solid skis no doubt, comes down to difference flex pattern and shape. The Vandal is a little wider all around meaning it will float some more in softer snow. The Vandal's flex pattern has butter zones, meaning underfoot the ski is stiff, and it has hinge points in the tip and tail where the ski flexes the most. The Allplay is narrower, especially in the longer lengths as the Vandal's dimensions change depending on size. The Allplay's flex pattern is consistent, meaning tip to tail it is the same. This makes the Allplay softer overall than the Vandal especially underfoot. The pop on the skis is very comparable because despite it being softer, the Allplay's construction has carbon fiber giving it great reactivity. So it really comes down to if you prefer a ski that is stiffer for carving and landing big airs, or something a little more buttery.
CalumSKIIf you think that blends are too soft then i think you should totally disregard the vandals this year mate
Ive heard that they are really unstable and get wobbly at speeds so if ur tryna ski more all mountain probs get tha all plays
FLYBOYMATTHEWProps to J for offering a neutral perspective instead of just pushing his own goods. Respect!
FLYBOYMATTHEWGood point, I forgot about the 4frnt deal. In that case, buy both and compare.
cjayc423Do you think J is saying the Vandal is stiffer for carving and big airs or more buttery? Just confused with the comments about hinge points and carbon for reactivity
J_skisVandal is stiffer and more hooky (tighter radius). Allplay is more buttery and surfy (more rocker).
If looking for a little more stability at speed but lacking buttery / powder float = Vandal
If looking for a little more buttery and surfy but a little more chattery at speed = Allplay