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Anybody ridden Tyrolia/4frnt attack 13 & 16 din bindings?

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eljefe
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This is kind of a specific post, if you've ridden both that would be most helpful.

So, I've ski's higher din bindings for the last 15 years. I usually only ever ride my bindings at 10-11, but have always personally felt that riding higher din bindings lower in the range had a generally better feel. Certain bindings have a significantly different construction that have a tangibly different feel. For example the old 916 salomon bindings had a completely different toe and heal than the 914 and felt completely different on snow.

The pivot series is a different all metal toe piece on the higher din units than the 2 wing plastic lower din toe, and such I always felt ski'd differently.

On the tyrolia/4frnt, it seems the build is identical, anyone have experience with the 13 over the 16? I'm just debating if there really is any actual difference worthy of the higher din unit.
Aug 8 2018 9:02PM
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powpatrol
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If I remember correctly the 16 is slightly heavier than the 13,which might improve overall strength slightly(?)
Aug 9 2018 6:00AM
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SofaKingSick
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ugggh i went through this a while back and I THINK i came away believing that the 13 and 16 are same construction, 11s and 18s were not. i'm having a hard time searching it now since the Attack2s come up in all my searches now
Aug 9 2018 10:19AM
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Non_State_Actor
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eljefeThis is kind of a specific post, if you've ridden both that would be most helpful.

So, I've ski's higher din bindings for the last 15 years. I usually only ever ride my bindings at 10-11, but have always personally felt that riding higher din bindings lower in the range had a generally better feel. Certain bindings have a significantly different construction that have a tangibly different feel. For example the old 916 salomon bindings had a completely different toe and heal than the 914 and felt completely different on snow.

The pivot series is a different all metal toe piece on the higher din units than the 2 wing plastic lower din toe, and such I always felt ski'd differently.

On the tyrolia/4frnt, it seems the build is identical, anyone have experience with the 13 over the 16? I'm just debating if there really is any actual difference worthy of the higher din unit.


I've used the 13, 14AT, and I've held/looked over the 4FRNT 16 which are the AT model if you're looking at the $199 pair on their site? The ATs have a higher stack height, have a different AFD, and are heavier, it may be worth it if you're planning to use rockered, rubber soled touring boots but I sent them back.

The 13s rode great with DINs at 9-10 with no pre-releases though I'm not too big or powerful a skier.
Aug 9 2018 12:20PM
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eljefe
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mystery3I've used the 13, 14AT, and I've held/looked over the 4FRNT 16 which are the AT model if you're looking at the $199 pair on their site? The ATs have a higher stack height, have a different AFD, and are heavier, it may be worth it if you're planning to use rockered, rubber soled touring boots but I sent them back.

The 13s rode great with DINs at 9-10 with no pre-releases though I'm not too big or powerful a skier.


Sweet thank you for the response. Im pretty light on my feet, its mostly just a feel thing... and no prerelease. I rode the previous version of the Attack 16 with no problems, but this was before the toe pieces changed to the more marker looking wide afd type toe piece.
Aug 9 2018 12:44PM
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Greg_K
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Attack2 bindings are similar to the older ones but now feature GW(Grip Walk) sole capability, improved elastic travel(further improving chances of not pre-releasing) and are only a touch heavier than the previous models. The 16 toe adds more metal along with a higher DIN but a few hundred grams heavier than the 13. The Attack 18 adds more metal to the heel along with the larger DIN. Stack height similar in all of these but avoid the attack 11 as it’s heel is quite highly ramped so more geared to beginners only.

You’d be fine on either an Attack2 13 or 16 running a DIN at 10 or so. The 16 will be a touch beefier but at a weight and $ cost. Been running Attack 13 bindings for years in the 10-11 DIN range without issues on all my skis. Great Binding!
Aug 9 2018 11:17PM
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white_wolf
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they ski well and have solid retention. More durable than markers in my experience as a ski tech
Aug 15 2018 3:42PM
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