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Anybody else feel bad for Doug and Harvey that NS bit the dust so bad?

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dolanslebensraum
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I feel like im in chernobyl wandering around NS. Like nobody is here. Its abandoned. The emptyness adds to the nostalgia i guess, but i think it must have sucked to see NS flourish when free speech was allowed and then watch it slowly die as the mods kept banning interesting members. Maybe the 14 olympics kinda signalled the crashing of the wave of the twin tip revolution? What do you guys think happened?
Jul 8 2018 11:06AM
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cozzey
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freeskibum82180s. Im just not a fan of metal in skis. I like the predictable flex pattern of wood core. They are light though


Damn. If they were the 188s I’d probably try and buy them from you.
Jul 24 2018 9:00AM
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GrandThings
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Mr.BishopHah yeah - there definitely is some sort of big change coming. :)


I like this idea.... expand on your thoughts if you don't mind.


I've thought about trying to do something like this for a while, but it would be dope if it was site-sponsored to get more engagement. During the winter (or peak season whatever.) Post a thread every day like "first person to post a double-backflip wins a T-shirt" or "first person to walk through the entire lodge with their skis on wins a sticker pack." Make it a good mix of silly activities and tricks so that even people who arent as good at skiing have a chance to win something/feel included. Sort of a site-wide King of the Road/Scavenger hunt/game of gnar that would get people checking in everyday/posting/trying to do stuff for NS. I'm bored so I made a quick list below.

Most switchups
take a pic with a pro
fastest switch bomb
Butter down your bunny hill
Chairlift jump
biggest air - smallest feature
best snowboarder spray
best lodge meal under $5
Furthest gap out of rail
Triple?
most chicken fingers eaten?
Jul 24 2018 9:17AM
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freeskibum82
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cozzeyDamn. If they were the 188s I’d probably try and buy them from you.

they are the LTDs as well. All white top sheet instead of the gray
https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=223768&d=1518291644&thumb=1
Jul 24 2018 9:30AM
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cozzey
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freeskibum82they are the LTDs as well. All white top sheet instead of the gray
https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=223768&d=1518291644&thumb=1


Fuck I want those... they’re gorgeous. How much would you ask for?
Jul 24 2018 11:39AM
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bigcat.
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GrandThingsI've thought about trying to do something like this for a while, but it would be dope if it was site-sponsored to get more engagement. During the winter (or peak season whatever.) Post a thread every day like "first person to post a double-backflip wins a T-shirt" or "first person to walk through the entire lodge with their skis on wins a sticker pack." Make it a good mix of silly activities and tricks so that even people who arent as good at skiing have a chance to win something/feel included. Sort of a site-wide King of the Road/Scavenger hunt/game of gnar that would get people checking in everyday/posting/trying to do stuff for NS. I'm bored so I made a quick list below.

Most switchups
take a pic with a pro
fastest switch bomb
Butter down your bunny hill
Chairlift jump
biggest air - smallest feature
best snowboarder spray
best lodge meal under $5
Furthest gap out of rail
Triple?
most chicken fingers eaten?


So kind of like what the Ski or Die global challenge was?
Jul 24 2018 11:43AM
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GrandThings
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bigcat.So kind of like what the Ski or Die global challenge was?


Lol exactly like that
Jul 24 2018 1:00PM
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clorox
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Mr.BishopYou can't dismiss the new generation like that. They consume things differently, and it is up to the older folk to adapt.

If anything, the right move for the future is to switch away from a completely advertising supported model, and onto subscriptions.

Subscriptions allow for a fraction of the size of audience to generate radically more revenue. That could all go towards content.


I actually don't know where CKO is at these days. Hung out with Felix the other night at a bowling alley though. :)

I'd be happy to pay a subscription for newschoolers if it had something along the lines of ad free premium content. Would also be nice to see the "annual" NS magazine to come back.
Poikenzjust one big knuckle with a super deep landing, would be cheap to build and could get nutty.

It's still pretty expensive to build a massive knuckle. If one were to find land with the right shaped landscape for it, that would help, as well as pushing dirt around to blow snow over with the downside that paying for landscaping and excavation would cost a lot but be cheaper in the long run.
Jul 24 2018 2:18PM
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Poikenz
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finderIt's still pretty expensive to build a massive knuckle. If one were to find land with the right shaped landscape for it, that would help, as well as pushing dirt around to blow snow over with the downside that paying for landscaping and excavation would cost a lot but be cheaper in the long run.

I assumed that it would be somewhere with an existing knuckle where you could just plow over the jump. I don't think anyone would be willing to pay, or approve excavation for a single contest.
Jul 24 2018 4:49PM
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SEABURN
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My favorite edits are from people jibbing the whole resort. I'd love to see more of the Quiksilver/NS/Faction "one of your days" contest.

All skiers can relate to a good top2bottom.
Jul 24 2018 5:41PM
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Mr.Bishop
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GrandThingsI've thought about trying to do something like this for a while, but it would be dope if it was site-sponsored to get more engagement. During the winter (or peak season whatever.) Post a thread every day like "first person to post a double-backflip wins a T-shirt" or "first person to walk through the entire lodge with their skis on wins a sticker pack." Make it a good mix of silly activities and tricks so that even people who arent as good at skiing have a chance to win something/feel included. Sort of a site-wide King of the Road/Scavenger hunt/game of gnar that would get people checking in everyday/posting/trying to do stuff for NS. I'm bored so I made a quick list below.

Most switchups
take a pic with a pro
fastest switch bomb
Butter down your bunny hill
Chairlift jump
biggest air - smallest feature
best snowboarder spray
best lodge meal under $5
Furthest gap out of rail
Triple?
most chicken fingers eaten?

Intersting, so like as someone else said - sort of like a Ski or Die type thing, except instead of being all in one place the connecting thing is the website. People do the challenges all over the world?

Pretty interesting concept, I like it.
finderI'd be happy to pay a subscription for newschoolers if it had something along the lines of ad free premium content. Would also be nice to see the "annual" NS magazine to come back.


Yeah I mean if we went in this direction, that would be how it would work. There's a premium tier of content, which would essentially be funded directly by subscriptions. The mag would be entirely possible to include under this type of a model.

The biggest problem with the Magazine was that it relied on Newsstand distribution. The company that owned Newschoolers back then was like the #2 Magazine distributor in the USA... so Newsstands were the shit. We happened to launch the mag basically the first year that Newsstand sales of magazines started to really collapse. :)
Jul 25 2018 2:37PM
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GrandThings
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Mr.BishopIntersting, so like as someone else said - sort of like a Ski or Die type thing, except instead of being all in one place the connecting thing is the website. People do the challenges all over the world?

Pretty interesting concept, I like it.


Yeah I mean if we went in this direction, that would be how it would work. There's a premium tier of content, which would essentially be funded directly by subscriptions. The mag would be entirely possible to include under this type of a model.

The biggest problem with the Magazine was that it relied on Newsstand distribution. The company that owned Newschoolers back then was like the #2 Magazine distributor in the USA... so Newsstands were the shit. We happened to launch the mag basically the first year that Newsstand sales of magazines started to really collapse. :)


Yeah exactly and call it like "Challenge of the Day" or release like a whole list before a weekend. People can win by either being the first to post for silly stuff or voted on best, longest, most etc.

Not only would this be super fun, but it also helps build the community AND get people back onto the site at a regular cadence.

More challanges

Biggest jump off not-a-jump
Grab the tail of someone else skis in line. Longest time unnoticed wins
Best snowman on side of trail
dopest dub
trippiest trip
grab nose and tail
trick off the halfpipe deck to flat
grind a rail uphill
most bevs consumed on a single lift

(Im a huge KOTR fan if nobody could tell)
Jul 25 2018 3:21PM
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GrandThings
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Harlaut's Hammer - Best Dollo impression/outfit (3 tricks minimum)
Morrisons Madness - Biggest cliff drop
Swaneys Sadness - recreate that shit Olympic run
Dan's Direction - Best LB2
Meek's Mouth (sus?) - fastest slide while packing the biggest lip
Tanner's Revenge - Stand at the top of the park and recreate Tanner's "real skiing rant"
Max's Kill - Best butter in tightest pants
Parry's Puzzler - best wizard trick
Wessons Woes - Weirdest thing grinded
Jul 25 2018 3:29PM
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Govygen_gourmet
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Boi NS has a mobile App now, I don’t consider that biting the dust maybe the content is not as good.. sure they can be doing more... but it always has room to improve ya feel?
Jul 26 2018 12:24AM
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dolanslebensraum
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I honestly think the smartest thing NS could do is cut out the censorship crap. BeMag is an austrian inline forum that has alot of consistent activity and you can say fag all day long or whatever you want for that matter. I mean i dont even understand why it got banned on NS. Trey parker made an entire episode of south park dedicated to redefining fag to mean an obnoxious attention whore loser and not a homosexual. Not sure how a site with half its members living near fairplay colorado wouldnt pickup on that.
Even on 4chan you see people get tired of bashing on jews and black people; either way i think using the internet to vent frustrations may be healthy for society in order to adjust to the internet age. In the end reason will win leading to libertarian utopia. If you dont like what someone says, be a man and make an argument trying to fault their opinion. If you cant then shut up and ignore them. Disqualifying political incorrectness and trying to shield against it only makes politically incorrect people look like martyrs and truthsayers.
Aug 2 2018 1:14AM
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jordini
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http://Www.zoot.space
Aug 5 2018 9:57PM
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a_burger
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Mr.BishopResponse to OP -


The one comment I do really agree with is that NS needs to start producing way more content. We actually did spend a massive amount of money doing view-based revshare with a ton of producers for many years. It was a great system, but failed for a number of reasons.

We have a large budget for creating content as well as buying the rights to 3rd party content which is in play for the 2018-2019 season.

This statement is entirely false. We have a team of writers - both staff and Freelance who are regularly paid for their news contributions. We have true contributors who are passionate about the industry and were writing thought provoking articles at least daily - sometimes 5-6 of them in a day.

Did you miss the entire news program, or are you saying you didn't like the content?


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sharing articles like https://www.newschoolers.com/news/read/A-simple-delicious-guide-baking-Seasoned-chips
on facebook is not a step in the right direction. I'd be fucking pissed if I had an edit on the homepage trying to compete with bs like this especially since news articles automatically are weighted heavier by default

some other thoughts on this matter I figure i'd bring up: if you want kids to put their content on NS then they need to actually have a fair chance of competing. By having orange names be orange (as opposed to blue) on the homepage it automatically draws in more attention then a blue name and shit will more likely then not climb to the top of the homepage very fast compared to a bluename edit. Why would some kid bother to go through the trouble of exporting his edit in hd and uploading it for 5-10 upvotes when he can throw it on insta and get 100-200 likes?

Like I get that the site is stepping towards curated content, but you shouldn't be so reckless and half-assed about it. There's so much talent out there today that I think it's silly that someone who met some qualifications to receive an orange name ages ago should automatically have an advantage over every other piece of content coming out. Especially companies, their name should carry enough weight on it's own that they don't need to be highlighted even further.
Aug 16 2018 5:13PM
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littlecat
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a_burgersharing articles like https://www.newschoolers.com/news/read/A-simple-delicious-guide-baking-Seasoned-chips
on facebook is not a step in the right direction. I'd be fucking pissed if I had an edit on the homepage trying to compete with bs like this especially since news articles automatically are weighted heavier by default

some other thoughts on this matter I figure i'd bring up: if you want kids to put their content on NS then they need to actually have a fair chance of competing. By having orange names be orange (as opposed to blue) on the homepage it automatically draws in more attention then a blue name and shit will more likely then not climb to the top of the homepage very fast compared to a bluename edit. Why would some kid bother to go through the trouble of exporting his edit in hd and uploading it for 5-10 upvotes when he can throw it on insta and get 100-200 likes?

Like I get that the site is stepping towards curated content, but you shouldn't be so reckless and half-assed about it. There's so much talent out there today that I think it's silly that someone who met some qualifications to receive an orange name ages ago should automatically have an advantage over every other piece of content coming out. Especially companies, their name should carry enough weight on it's own that they don't need to be highlighted even further.


One article out out how many fucking legit articles that get posted all summer? Who cares? I'd be willing to bet less than 5k people on FB saw it anyways. They share out all the good content already during the summer since there's fuck all to share anyways.

As for kids putting content on NS: it's not that they don't have a chance to stand out. They're fucking lazy and just want instant gratification from their 5k instagram followers instead. How hard would it be for them to upload it here, share one or two clips from it and say "check my bio for the new edit blah blah blah and toss an upvote if you like it!". Also, orange names on NS were once blue. It didn't stop them from uploading in the past, why would it now? That argument is no different than saying that "Bobby Brown is verified on IG and his posts are going to do better than my page! Why should I bother trying to grow mine when those pesky verified athletes are just going to steal all my followers and my spot in the explore page?"
Aug 17 2018 2:40AM
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a_burger
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FiddlesticksOne article out out how many fucking legit articles that get posted all summer? Who cares? I'd be willing to bet less than 5k people on FB saw it anyways. They share out all the good content already during the summer since there's fuck all to share anyways.

As for kids putting content on NS: it's not that they don't have a chance to stand out. They're fucking lazy and just want instant gratification from their 5k instagram followers instead. How hard would it be for them to upload it here, share one or two clips from it and say "check my bio for the new edit blah blah blah and toss an upvote if you like it!". Also, orange names on NS were once blue. It didn't stop them from uploading in the past, why would it now? That argument is no different than saying that "Bobby Brown is verified on IG and his posts are going to do better than my page! Why should I bother trying to grow mine when those pesky verified athletes are just going to steal all my followers and my spot in the explore page?"

who cares? Idk maybe all the people who uploaded edits yesterday? News articles automatically are favored by the algorithm due to the assumption they are going to be high quality, there’s even some guidelines when you submit them, it’s not everything goes like videos and pics. The joke wasn’t even that funny and 0% related to skiing. Would you like to see more shit like that in the winter too? Cause that’s what sharing it on FB is encouraging.

The orange name thing isn’t the end of the world, but if NS wants to move towards curated content (which I believe one of the admins stated was a goal) they can’t just rely on passive stuff like orange names. They should either select and feature high quality content manually more often or go full crowd sourced, not in between. How many up and comers even have orange names these days?

its funny you mention the explore page on insta because 4-5 years ago the NS homepage was pretty similar with tiles and limited text, but that was dropped (to great disappointment from some of us) in favor of the current design because text was more important I guess?
Aug 17 2018 11:16AM
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GrandThings
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FiddlesticksOne article out out how many fucking legit articles that get posted all summer? Who cares? I'd be willing to bet less than 5k people on FB saw it anyways. They share out all the good content already during the summer since there's fuck all to share anyways.

As for kids putting content on NS: it's not that they don't have a chance to stand out. They're fucking lazy and just want instant gratification from their 5k instagram followers instead. How hard would it be for them to upload it here, share one or two clips from it and say "check my bio for the new edit blah blah blah and toss an upvote if you like it!". Also, orange names on NS were once blue. It didn't stop them from uploading in the past, why would it now? That argument is no different than saying that "Bobby Brown is verified on IG and his posts are going to do better than my page! Why should I bother trying to grow mine when those pesky verified athletes are just going to steal all my followers and my spot in the explore page?"


Red name burner account?
Aug 17 2018 12:01PM
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littlecat
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GrandThingsRed name burner account?


lol just someone who remotely gets what theyre doing and why it's nothing to freak out about. sure, probably not the wisest thing to share but at the same time, it's not the end of the world. I do wish the homepage tiles were back but what can ya do.
Aug 17 2018 1:21PM
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TRVP_ANGEL
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ns marketing budget should go to me n lonely js
Dec 16 2018 2:26AM
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Chubz.
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Mr.BishopOk, but what if we have a Killington re-union?

If you didn't come, I'd cry myself to sleep.

I've heard consistently that Troll is a pretty unreal place. Andy says that on the tour, that place has more energy than almost anywhere else on the planet.


5 months down..killington is firing..


Doug, let’s go!

Give me a couch to sleep on and some beer and you got a write up recap AND an event video at your finger tips.

I fucking miss you dude, I need some Doug Bishop in my life it’s been way too long.
Dec 16 2018 2:36AM
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TRVP_ANGEL
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lets revive this discussion
May 23 2019 12:48AM
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Yung_Gnarley
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TRVP_ANGELlets revive this discussion


yes why does ns fucking suck? for starters, they need a new logo very badly. Ever since the logo redesign, the site has been going downhill. new logo is totally uninspired. How is it supposed to convey "skiing", or "hip", or "freestyle". I highly doubt an actual designer made it. Once you guys have a logo that is decent, you can really move merch, then you can put on events that people care about. That's what will save this site. Basically, Doug and the team need to defer to the experts more often instead of trying to figure it out. Speaking of merch, you can't just slap your shit logo on crpa you bought and call it merch. that's scrub shit. put some time and effort into the designs and the products.
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