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for probably the last month or so i've been trying to upgrade my summer setup but i cant seem to get it to work right. i've been relying solely on msnow, but because each piece is its own moving part i'm constantly having issues with consistently making it all the way down the drop in. i might just switch over to a long piece of astro turf because that seems to work for everyone else. has anyone else only used msnow? what are your experiences with turf/msnow?
you're doing something seriously wrong with your msnow. Each peice is not its own moving part. You are suppose to attatch them to whatever surface you're putting them on in the very specific way detailed in the instructions, and they will become one solid surface. I used mSnow with no problems for years
Rparryou're doing something seriously wrong with your msnow. Each peice is not its own moving part. You are suppose to attatch them to whatever surface you're putting them on in the very specific way detailed in the instructions, and they will become one solid surface. I used mSnow with no problems for years
They dont actually move, i just meant that each was its own independent part while turf is one or a few large pieces. They're screwed into plywood sheets or pallets but they arent as continuous as turf so its much easier to slide off
ezavThey dont actually move, i just meant that each was its own independent part while turf is one or a few large pieces. They're screwed into plywood sheets or pallets but they arent as continuous as turf so its much easier to slide off
The pallets are likely your problem. I would imagine attaching mSnow to anything short of a full, solid ramp will lead to instability. turf might be better in your case
I have been skiing on turf for 3 years. J roll it up when ur done and store it in the garage or something. It lasts a while and with soap and water it's perfect. My snowboarder friends hate it tho, its hard for them to stay straight or make small adjustments. But since you chose the right sport, you should be good
Is your drop in not tall enough/steep enough? Even if you put surf wax on your skis you should still be able to make it to the bottom on msnow.
Gaps on the drop shouldn't be a problem. Save money and lower friction. As long as they're not more than a foot should be fine. Do you have pictures of said drop in?
Height, angle, the transition, length of flat, and how your kicker is built and all have a pretty big impact. Is it wet down at all to reduce friction?
Are you supposed to wax msnow at all?(I feel like that might have been a thing but can't remember)
theabortionatorIs your drop in not tall enough/steep enough? Even if you put surf wax on your skis you should still be able to make it to the bottom on msnow.
Gaps on the drop shouldn't be a problem. Save money and lower friction. As long as they're not more than a foot should be fine. Do you have pictures of said drop in?
Height, angle, the transition, length of flat, and how your kicker is built and all have a pretty big impact. Is it wet down at all to reduce friction?
Are you supposed to wax msnow at all?(I feel like that might have been a thing but can't remember)
theabortionatorIs your drop in not tall enough/steep enough? Even if you put surf wax on your skis you should still be able to make it to the bottom on msnow.
Gaps on the drop shouldn't be a problem. Save money and lower friction. As long as they're not more than a foot should be fine. Do you have pictures of said drop in?
Height, angle, the transition, length of flat, and how your kicker is built and all have a pretty big impact. Is it wet down at all to reduce friction?
Are you supposed to wax msnow at all?(I feel like that might have been a thing but can't remember)
you can use this stuff they had called mwax that you rub onto your skis. But it's a really weird chalky rub on wax. It works very well. It sticks to the bases for sure though, so don't plan on using it on a nice pair of skis
theabortionatorIs your drop in not tall enough/steep enough? Even if you put surf wax on your skis you should still be able to make it to the bottom on msnow.
Gaps on the drop shouldn't be a problem. Save money and lower friction. As long as they're not more than a foot should be fine. Do you have pictures of said drop in?
Height, angle, the transition, length of flat, and how your kicker is built and all have a pretty big impact. Is it wet down at all to reduce friction?
Are you supposed to wax msnow at all?(I feel like that might have been a thing but can't remember)
I probably shouldve phrased myself better lol. I have the proper speed to make it through the entire tranny and rail, but because the bristles on the msnow are beat to shit and my drop isnt perfectly flat, i tend to slide off to one side. So i sometimes dont make it to the rail, but thats just because of the way the drop is built, the condition of the msnow, etc.
I'll add some pics of the drop on when i get the chance, but im planning on making a more well built drop and using turf instead of msnow. My yard isn't very flat so that makes this whole trial and error process a lot more tedious.
ezavI probably shouldve phrased myself better lol. I have the proper speed to make it through the entire tranny and rail, but because the bristles on the msnow are beat to shit and my drop isnt perfectly flat, i tend to slide off to one side. So i sometimes dont make it to the rail, but thats just because of the way the drop is built, the condition of the msnow, etc.
I'll add some pics of the drop on when i get the chance, but im planning on making a more well built drop and using turf instead of msnow. My yard isn't very flat so that makes this whole trial and error process a lot more tedious.
Can you add some blocks under the low side to make it level?
You can edge a bit into turf but you still want tour side to side to be level. You dont want to have to be edging to stay straight.
Thoughts on literally throwing turf down a hill and staking it down then planting a rail in the ground at the bottom? Haven't tried, just curious if it's a viable option.
theabortionatorCan you add some blocks under the low side to make it level?
You can edge a bit into turf but you still want tour side to side to be level. You dont want to have to be edging to stay straight.
I tried that quite a few times, but even a bit of slope to the side makes it hard to stay on. I also tried digging out a flat surface for it but that didn't work. At this point instead of trying to get it perfectly level, im probably just gonna see how well turf works for me. I dont think I'll be edging into the turf much, but it'll still be good to have that to fall back on.
ezavI tried that quite a few times, but even a bit of slope to the side makes it hard to stay on. I also tried digging out a flat surface for it but that didn't work. At this point instead of trying to get it perfectly level, im probably just gonna see how well turf works for me. I dont think I'll be edging into the turf much, but it'll still be good to have that to fall back on.
It doesnt have to be exact but it should be level enough thay you arent sliding off the side. Get it to be at least eyeball level.
theabortionatorIt doesnt have to be exact but it should be level enough thay you arent sliding off the side. Get it to be at least eyeball level.
It seems pretty flat to the eye so the turf should be fine. Either way I'm going to be rebuilding the setup to accomodate turf, and with a better built drop i dont think I'll be having as many issues with it being tilted to one side.
A friend gave me his drop in setup from moving and I now have way more than I need for my setup, so if you want to drive to Massachusetts for it, shoot me a pm. I use it for my drop in and the flat section, but use turf for the takeoff and landing. Falling on the stuff hurts like hell so I don't like using it for the landing but thats mostly preference I guess.
Here is a photo before it was done. I used nondirectional turf later and like it a lot more cause it's way easier to set an edge into for turning and switch. I would recommend the pilled stuff that is connected at each end of the "grass" if that makes sense.
Here is also a photo that shows the rest before I put more in the mSnow for the flat section.
finderA friend gave me his drop in setup from moving and I now have way more than I need for my setup, so if you want to drive to Massachusetts for it, shoot me a pm. I use it for my drop in and the flat section, but use turf for the takeoff and landing. Falling on the stuff hurts like hell so I don't like using it for the landing but thats mostly preference I guess.
Here is a photo before it was done. I used nondirectional turf later and like it a lot more cause it's way easier to set an edge into for turning and switch. I would recommend the pilled stuff that is connected at each end of the "grass" if that makes sense.
Here is also a photo that shows the rest before I put more in the mSnow for the flat section.
Thanks for the offer but i live in maryland so im not big on driving 15 hrs one way :/. I have my msnow set up in a line down the drop instead of side to side. Your way prob works better but i dont have enough msnow to do what you did.
Do you have a link to the turf you used? I always thought directional would be the better option because it gives you more speed, but i guess i could give the other stuff a try
Swell_DudeThoughts on literally throwing turf down a hill and staking it down then planting a rail in the ground at the bottom? Haven't tried, just curious if it's a viable option.
It totally could. Depends on the hill and how you do it.
ezavThanks for the offer but i live in maryland so im not big on driving 15 hrs one way
ezavThanks for the offer but i live in maryland so im not big on driving 15 hrs one way :/. I have my msnow set up in a line down the drop instead of side to side. Your way prob works better but i dont have enough msnow to do what you did.
Do you have a link to the turf you used? I always thought directional would be the better option because it gives you more speed, but i guess i could give the other stuff a try
I used to live in MD and it's only 6-7 hours to MA so you're trippin or too young to drive. There's still a 20 ft, 12" diameter, 250lb PVC pipe in my parents yard that I would give you but I won't be back in MD until like Christmas
ezavMy bad i confused massachussetts with maine (13 hrs). Still not big on driving 7 hrs to pick up some msnow lol
kung_powpowI used to live in MD and it's only 6-7 hours to MA so you're trippin or too young to drive. There's still a 20 ft, 12" diameter, 250lb PVC pipe in my parents yard that I would give you but I won't be back in MD until like Christmas
Corrected myself, my b. Thanks for the offer, but if i get my setup up and going soon I'll probably also build another tube before christmas.
kung_powpowI used to live in MD and it's only 6-7 hours to MA so you're trippin or too young to drive. There's still a 20 ft, 12" diameter, 250lb PVC pipe in my parents yard that I would give you but I won't be back in MD until like Christmas
