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powpatrolBy swallow tail do you mean the rocker profile? Or am i just blind :/
powpatrolOh right i get you now,was thinking pescado kinda vibes.
People definitely have loads of different names for it,haven’t heard of pintail being said in skiing but coming from a surf background i like it!
patagonialukeIt's definitely a fun ski, but wouldn't be my top pic if you're gonna be spending more than roughly 30% of your time in the park. They have a pretty directional shape and flex.
Not sure how much you'd notice the difference between tip and tail width, but it is worth noting that the 18/19 Origin 96 will have a slightly more conservative rocker profile, so it has even less of a rockered tail. Neither the current version or 18/19 version are true twins, though their tails are raised a few cm's (around 3-4 cm). The 18/19 version has similar tail splay / height, but its rocker lines are not as deep as the 17/18.
I've spent a good deal of time on the Origin 112 and 106, and with the bindings pushed a few cm's forward of the recommended line they're definitely playful, but they still feel pretty directional and not very freestyle-oriented. Really fun skis in my mind since I don't spin a lot or ski switch a ton, but worth noting.
young_hawaiiThey ski switch fine, don't let that bother you. they're super light with a very low swingweight so I think they would actually be super fun in the park. If anything I thought they could use a stiffer nose for all mountain charging
brockgomezBump, has anyone else had any more experience with these? Strongly considering them after reading the Blister review. I ski 75% east coast all over mtn and mostly like hitting stuff off the sides of groomers and trees. Starting to dabble in the park but no rails.
patagonialukeYep, I got more time on them this year and they're really fun. Great all-mountain ski that carves quite well but beats many skis of similar widths in terms of float in fresh snow. If you're not throwing huge spins or don't mind a more directional feel they're awesome. Very light but pretty stable for their width, strong but forgiving, and super poppy. There are plenty of better skis if you mostly want something that can lay down trenches on straight-up ice or want something that's super damp and can straightline through crud. But if you like a lighter, poppier, more energetic ski, the Origin 96 is awesome.
brockgomezAwesome, sounds like the type of ski i am looking for. I heard some negative reviews on durability on the older models, how have your skis held up so far?
patagonialukeI've only put about 15 days on our pair, but they were all either very late season at A-Basin or early season at Crested Butte (aka, pretty harsh conditions in terms of rocks and stuff to hit). Haven't had any durability issues with the Origin 96 or any other recent Liberty skis we've tested. From what I've seen, their durability does seem to have gotten better vs. several years ago. And they have a 3-year warranty, FWIW.
brockgomezThis is great info, would you recommend any other ski that is similar to the origin 96?
patagonialukeThere are a bunch, but the Atomic Bent Chetler 100 is one of the closer comparisons. It's a bit lighter and less stable, but feels even poppier and might do a bit better in deeper snow.
brockgomezBump, has anyone else had any more experience with these? Strongly considering them after reading the Blister review. I ski 75% east coast all over mtn and mostly like hitting stuff off the sides of groomers and trees. Starting to dabble in the park but no rails.