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TheVictatorNot to jack the thread, but should I get Bibbys or K2 Marksmans? I'm a Midwest skier who normally laps the park at local mountains, but I have Line Blends for that. I'm probably gonna be spending a lot of time up at Mount Bohemia which has a lot of glades/moguls and backcountry-esque runs. I prefer to spend time off-piste, but I normally head to mountains blind to condition, and could show up to anything from ice to a foot or so of fresh. Kinda unsure. Also fyi, the Marksmans are available on sale now in my size but the Bibbys are sold out and I'll have to pay for them next season at full price. Which one should I opt for?
Rum_HamI can't think of any reason why you would need Bibbys or even marksmans in the Midwest. Just use your blends lol
TheVictatorI do for most midwest mountains cuz I just lap the park, but I’m planning on going to mount bohemia in MI soon, which is basically 100% gnarly glades and backcountry so I’d need a diff ski for that. Plus my Blends are 5 years old rn and I want a ski with pop that isn’t a floppy noodle. I also go out west once or so every year and normally we get some fresh snow wherever we go so I’d really like to move up from the Blends.
TheVictatorI do for most midwest mountains cuz I just lap the park, but I’m planning on going to mount bohemia in MI soon, which is basically 100% gnarly glades and backcountry so I’d need a diff ski for that. Plus my Blends are 5 years old rn and I want a ski with pop that isn’t a floppy noodle. I also go out west once or so every year and normally we get some fresh snow wherever we go so I’d really like to move up from the Blends.
mr.tibblesBelieve the hype on the Bibbys. I've never skied this mountain you're talking about and only just now googled - based on pictures the Bibbys seem like too much ski and will charge harder than necessary for that, but if you go out west enough then it makes sense.
mr.tibblesAlso, why just Bibby and Marksman? Those are two pretty different skis. Maybe check into the PB&J (skinny Bibby)
TheVictatorI need a ski that is mid-fat or fat and can do everything outside of park. Afaik both the Bibbys and Marksmans can do that, albeit with different styles. PB&J is too similar to Blends in terms of width and I would rather opt for something floatier.
PowPiratemaybe check out the kartel 108. i haven't skied them but enough people on here will testify on their behalf. they seem to fit what your looking for
TheVictatorYeah, those are comparable to the Marksmans tho and from what I’ve heard I think I’d personally find the Marksmans more fun.
TheVictatorI need a ski that is mid-fat or fat and can do everything outside of park. Afaik both the Bibbys and Marksmans can do that, albeit with different styles. PB&J is too similar to Blends in terms of width and I would rather opt for something floatier.
atadams77i own a pair of 184s. not sure why exactly they renamed it to the wildcat, but it supposed to be the same ski. id like to see how they came up with that name, considering its their best selling ski ever. However, as others have stated the hype is real. they can go anywhere. i skied them on everything this last season...trees, powder, slush, bumps, groomers. they do it all. they are so good i am almost considering buying another pair, esp considering this is the last year with the Bibby name. I'd prefer to own the actual 'Bibby" instead of the so called Wildcat.
DunnersDo they feel playful or buttery at all? I'm a super playful aggressive skiier and am super attracted to the chetlers because they're made for playful buttering. I've heard the Bibbys are amazing but you really have to force your turns and stay on top of your edges. I've also heard theyre pretty stiff
Swandog7I think the Moment Wildcat 108 would work for you. Smaller Bibby which seems like it would be what you want. No reviews yet as they are new next year but something to take a look at
atadams77I have seen the next moment lineup and didn't see anything resembling a wildcat 108...yet. is this still super new, proof? perhaps you are referring to the Commander 108.
**This post was edited on Mar 26th 2018 at 3:08:08pm
DunnersDo they feel playful or buttery at all? I'm a super playful aggressive skiier and am super attracted to the chetlers because they're made for playful buttering. I've heard the Bibbys are amazing but you really have to force your turns and stay on top of your edges. I've also heard theyre pretty stiff
TheVictatorI need a ski that is mid-fat or fat and can do everything outside of park. Afaik both the Bibbys and Marksmans can do that, albeit with different styles. PB&J is too similar to Blends in terms of width and I would rather opt for something floatier.
atadams77not sure why exactly they renamed it to the wildcat, but it supposed to be the same ski.
Swandog7I think the Moment Wildcat 108 would work for you. Smaller Bibby which seems like it would be what you want. No reviews yet as they are new next year but something to take a look at
atadams77I have seen the next moment lineup and didn't see anything resembling a wildcat 108...yet. is this still super new, proof? perhaps you are referring to the Commander 108.
**This post was edited on Mar 26th 2018 at 3:08:08pm
PataguccimaneI think he’s referring to the commander 108, which is by no means a smaller Bibby. It’s a directional ski with two layers of titanal and is designed to be a stiff all out charger from what I’ve seen.
hot.pocketThe Wildcat 108 Tour is in the works and we will be testing it this spring. Not sure about the possibility of a non-tour version at this time as it would overlap with quite a few other skis in our lineup.
atadams77Good info hot.pocket, thanks for the update and for clearing confusion.
"Just time for a change, everything besides the name is the exact same." - shoulda just called it the Blister or Blister Pro and been done with it :).
Rum_HamHad Bibbys as a 1 ski quiver in Colorado last season and I love them. This season I have pb&js as my everyday ski and only bring the Bibbys out when there's fresh snow or heavy slush.
Had them out today at breck and I was blasting through chopped up hot pow like it was blower. I absolutely love these skis and they kill it everywhere.
DunnersYou sound fun to ride with homie! Im bout to be livin out in Denver starting in May. So stoked to get out west and away from this midwest landfill bull shit
hot.pocketJust time for a change, everything besides the name is the exact same.
The Wildcat 108 Tour is in the works and we will be testing it this spring. Not sure about the possibility of a non-tour version at this time as it would overlap with quite a few other skis in our lineup.
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