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Been skiing for 6 seasons, need to buy bindings for the first time.

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fuzzybabybunny
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I've always bought used or demo skis so they have always included bindings, and the bindings have *always* been Marker Griffon bindings of some number. I really have no idea because I have never paid attention to them.

But now I've bought some 176cm ON3P Kartel 108s without bindings and I don't know what to do. I'm 155lb, maybe 160lb with pack, and there are moments when I ski pretty aggressively. My current bindings go up to 16 but are set at 9, which is a bit too light for me. I'm gonna put them at 10.

But honestly, I have no idea what else to look for in bindings. I'm wondering if I should move away from Marker bindings?

- they're a bit more trouble to stomp off due to the shape of the heel lever (I usually don't use poles)
- the sharp tips in the heel lever dig into my ass when I'm sitting down on my skis (stupid reason, I know)
- I've been told by a ski tech that they're junk and break often
- I've had two break on me on separate skis - the sliding plate mechanism broke in the front toe cup on one, and I had to get an entire rear binding replaced on another

So maybe I should get a different binding? Maybe one with a flat heel lever? Those look so much easier to stomp off.

Do all ski bindings use the same rail size? If I install a demo rail onto my new skis, could I slide on bindings from different brands? I have some demo bindings on my ON3P Jeffreys and I quite like them because they will fit any boot size should I choose to sell them.

**This thread was edited on Mar 8th 2018 at 7:55:03pm

**This thread was edited on Mar 8th 2018 at 7:57:34pm
Mar 8 2018 7:53PM
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eheeth
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People here are going to tell you either pivots or attacks. I'd say pivots, only because I've never used attacks and pivots are great, but attacks are probably easier to stomp off if that's really important for you. Any binding you spend a bit of money on is going to be fine
Mar 8 2018 8:29PM
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Ebunk_theskunk
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First, demo bindings are always gonna be heavier than non demo bindings, and the plates are not universal. As far as the quality of marker bindings I think they are just as good as any other company but I have personally seen more markers break than any other brand. But also I had a pair of mostly plastic free 10 marker bindings for 5 years that never broke that I skied park aggressively on. But 3 years ago I switched to look pivots and have absolutely loved them. They have more range of motion than any other binding out which means less chance of them breaking and they’re way more safe. So for me they’re the best no question!

Also fuck pointy heel pieces. Really don’t see why they would make them like that. It really sucks when you take one to the cheek or even worse right up the b-hole. So I’ll never buy a pair of bindings like that for that reason! And it’s a fair point that they suck when you’re g-tucking cause you do that often as a park skier so I’d say pivots are the way to go.
Mar 8 2018 8:33PM
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Rum_Ham
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Pivots will give you binding butt but have great elasticity. I only ski pivots or attacks these days and you can go wrong with either one. sths are great as well.
Mar 8 2018 8:41PM
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