Everyone should read this before watching women's halfpipe tonight

barbora_novakI cannot believe I am seeing this. From from position exactly are you mocking this girl? Yes she can barely ski but apparently she is smart enough to game the system and show stupid it is. There were many times when I was tempted to say my opinion about the shit you do or say but I didn´t because I am starting to feel slightly sorry for you. Do you have any self-reflection? As was mentioned in the previous comment I don´t think there would be much of a difference if 360s and sw360 were done instead of just straight airs. I understand you are heartbroken about not going to the Olympics but there are thousands of other people who won´t get to go for the same reasons and no one is mocking others publicly. I have noticed that you probably have low self esteem issues or maybe it is a deeper problem and in that case, it is nothing to be ashamed of because you can hardly affect how your neurotransmitter work unless you treat them with pills, but that doesn´t give you any credit for these sort of comments. First you criticize Zuzicka for doing naked photoshoot and why? Because you can barely see her tits or because itś bad for women who fight for equality. Well if it the second case you are not exactly helping them by taking snaps in sports bra and shorts, in my mind itś the same thing. And since i am mentioning it everyone is free to do whatever the fuck they want with their body. Secondly this rant about Swaney and the olympics, there is no need for this behaviour. I think you are a smart girl since you have managed to financially support your skiing over the years and that takes certain amount of intelligence, so why this? I am not telling you this to hate you publicly but more to finally say something. On your IG you say that you might not be everyone favorites tea but fuck it. Well you might not be but do you really want to be ridiculed by everyone? next time before you say something like this think harder if it isn´t irrelevant from your position. I think you are probably a nice girl and it´s not too late to show the world your other qualities.

Just as the thread was dying we get some much needed girl drama

I just wanted people to know before watching so that they would know that's not the level of halfpipe skiing that we're at. Now that the damage is done it's not relevant anymore. It's not a personal attack on her, but more on the system and that this shouldn't be possible.

barbora_novakI cannot believe I am seeing this. From from position exactly are you mocking this girl? Yes she can barely ski but apparently she is smart enough to game the system and show stupid it is. There were many times when I was tempted to say my opinion about the shit you do or say but I didn´t because I am starting to feel slightly sorry for you. Do you have any self-reflection? As was mentioned in the previous comment I don´t think there would be much of a difference if 360s and sw360 were done instead of just straight airs. I understand you are heartbroken about not going to the Olympics but there are thousands of other people who won´t get to go for the same reasons and no one is mocking others publicly. I have noticed that you probably have low self esteem issues or maybe it is a deeper problem and in that case, it is nothing to be ashamed of because you can hardly affect how your neurotransmitter work unless you treat them with pills, but that doesn´t give you any credit for these sort of comments. First you criticize Zuzicka for doing naked photoshoot and why? Because you can barely see her tits or because itś bad for women who fight for equality. Well if it the second case you are not exactly helping them by taking snaps in sports bra and shorts, in my mind itś the same thing. And since i am mentioning it everyone is free to do whatever the fuck they want with their body. Secondly this rant about Swaney and the olympics, there is no need for this behaviour. I think you are a smart girl since you have managed to financially support your skiing over the years and that takes certain amount of intelligence, so why this? I am not telling you this to hate you publicly but more to finally say something. On your IG you say that you might not be everyone favorites tea but fuck it. Well you might not be but do you really want to be ridiculed by everyone? next time before you say something like this think harder if it isn´t irrelevant from your position. I think you are probably a nice girl and it´s not too late to show the world your other qualities.

PM, no need for this here.

FYI I looked at her insta someone posted.

also whoever apaige33 is, has been copying and pasting the article to her comments on the last two pics she posted. Swaney wasn’t breaking 100 likes even with #olympics bs.
What a sham. As soon as the Winter Olympics are over, she’ll be forgotten for another 4 years.

Actually, that post about her being an example of Dunning-Krueger is really on point. People misuse that condition all the time these days, this looks like a real case.

Wtf is wrong with all you self absorbed fucktards get your heads out of your fucking arses she is living her dream. Anyone hating on the fact that she is at the olympics is a fucking cunt and a fucking embarrassment to ‘freeskiing’. Whatever happened to skiing being about fun / being stoked for others. This is a prime example of you all being a bunch of fucking haters. I say good on her for fulfilling her dream of going to the olympics. Sorry for rant but I have to get this of my chest. The pic of her Twitter makes me so fucking angry and sad at the same time. I’ve been on Newschoolers since the very beginning and this is a fucking embarrassment to the whole Newschool movement, we get to the olympics and within 4 years we turn into a bunch of hypochritical hating arsewipes, get your shit together newschoolers.

rudeboyWtf is wrong with all you self absorbed fucktards get your heads out of your fucking arses she is living her dream. Anyone hating on the fact that she is at the olympics is a fucking cunt and a fucking embarrassment to ‘freeskiing’. Whatever happened to skiing being about fun / being stoked for others. This is a prime example of you all being a bunch of fucking haters. I say good on her for fulfilling her dream of going to the olympics. Sorry for rant but I have to get this of my chest. The pic of her Twitter makes me so fucking angry and sad at the same time. I’ve been on Newschoolers since the very beginning and this is a fucking embarrassment to the whole Newschool movement, we get to the olympics and within 4 years we turn into a bunch of hypochritical hating arsewipes, get your shit together newschoolers.

Nah, she sucks.

barbora_novak. I have noticed that you probably have low self esteem issues or maybe it is a deeper problem and in that case, it is nothing to be ashamed of because you can hardly affect how your neurotransmitter work unless you treat them with pills,

take the plank out of your own eye and read this over again

rudeboyWtf is wrong with all you self absorbed fucktards get your heads out of your fucking arses she is living her dream. Anyone hating on the fact that she is at the olympics is a fucking cunt and a fucking embarrassment to ‘freeskiing’. Whatever happened to skiing being about fun / being stoked for others. This is a prime example of you all being a bunch of fucking haters. I say good on her for fulfilling her dream of going to the olympics. Sorry for rant but I have to get this of my chest. The pic of her Twitter makes me so fucking angry and sad at the same time. I’ve been on Newschoolers since the very beginning and this is a fucking embarrassment to the whole Newschool movement, we get to the olympics and within 4 years we turn into a bunch of hypochritical hating arsewipes, get your shit together newschoolers.

I’m gonna reply here and say that fulfilling her dream didn’t take into account anyone that’s being affected by her decisions, esp for the fact she’s not from Hungary. We could all be hype for “her dream” but we objectively know it wasn’t really a dream at all. Perhaps a ploy, loophole exposure, sure.

She got through with no talent or hard work. That 1% of luck came through, but unfortunately the sport she loves, clearly with as much audacity as running for governor, isn’t very happy to have her on the main stage - as everyone is portraying here. Plus, this is a discussion so hater bashing the rest of NS will only get you so far without a direct reply lol

All this time I just thought she was being "core". You know, really mastering turning in the pipe and not really trying to confuse it with all the spinny/grabby stuff. Take it back to its roots.

Actually I'm from Hungary and its interesting to see your opinions.

The Hungarian coach said that they are not looking for people to compete from other countries, but if somebody comes with a quota and already have a nationality, you cant say to them you cant compete. They only saw a video and the fact that she has enough races to qualify for the Olympics. Obviously they had no reason to say no.

Apart from them, you are some real envy people, geez. As they say: "The most important thing in the Olympic Games is not winning but taking part." Clearly most of you haters do not understand that.

FUUUCKWHOA WHOA WHOA hold on... so this girl is going to do straight airs the whole way down the pipe?! Am I understanding this correctly?

*no airs*

Thants it, enough olymipics for me.

Yo I've been training at the UOP ramps every summer since I was like 12 years old and EVERYONE knows who Liz is. I think she showed up to TRY OUT JUMPING during my second or third summer and that's when she was still going for skeleton.

For Liz, this was never about halfpipe skiing or skeleton back in 2014, this is about her being able to posses the title of "Olympian." That's what its always been about. I'll try and find the link and post it later but she either started or helped to start a company that built an app that connects you with "pro" level coaches all over the world for a bunch of different sports and then has you pay almost exorbitant amounts of money to receive advice that you could get from your local grom coach. For someone who doesn't know Liz, seeing her face posted up on the coaches list as a "world cup halfpipe skier" wouldn't really be a big deal except she's not really a WC level halfpipe skier is she? She just gamed her way through an inherently broken system to gain the title.

Over the 8 years that Liz jumped at the UOP, I can tell you with 100% honesty that she progressed from barely being able to do straight airs off of the single kicker to doing "frontflips" to her ass off of the freeride kicker after taking 20 steps down, effectively going the same height and distance that she did on single. Maybe some 360s too. Let it also be known that nothing she does on ramps has ever been transferred to snow. Like I said earlier, deep down she doesn't give a fuck about the sport (or progression thereof) of women's halfpipe skiing. She didn't really give a fuck about the sport of skeleton either. If she did, she would have realized that truly making the Olympics in a fashion that not only pushed her own boundaries of comfort and skill but also elevated the sport as a whole was just not in the cards for her.

Over those 8 years I saw her training at the UOP I saw countless other people who started at the same skill level as her progress into being pretty fucking amazing jumpers for aerials, moguls, and freeride. Not once did any of them talk about how it was all about the Olympics, although a few of them are competing in Korea. It was always about getting out there and learning some cool new shit that you'd never done before and were kinda scared to try and hanging out with your friends. The whole point of the exercise for most of them wasn't to fulfill any future Olympic dream, but to go out, send your meat, and do something dope for the cute tourists watching from the upper deck.

This is a really personal issue for me for a few reasons. One, because I think it gives the wrong image of freestyle skiing to the public. At that level of competition, just like any other elite level, the point of the contest (and training for it) isn't to play it safe and just do what you need to move on, the point is to push yourself as hard as you can, to take risks, and to leave everything you have out on the snow. It's bullshit to think that there's some kook somewhere is saying "oh woah these athletes aren't that skilled, all they did was play the system just like that Swaney girl did!" Our sport isn't a fucking joke, and its shitty to think people think of it as one because of her. Two, while there was progression, a decade is more than enough time to progress past a front flip and a barely passable 360 on water. If anything, its indicative of how little she cared about true progression or about actually trying to compete and push herself at the highest level. Three, the amount of coaching she took away from kids who were actually pushing, progressing, and doing it just because they loved skiing is bullshit. Having a coach split between a ton of athletes and getting bits and pieces from them while they're trying to manage coaching other athletes is hard enough as it is. But when someone who makes the exact same mistakes over and over again without ever fixing them asks for extra, private coaching just to do the same exact two shitty tricks over and over again without ever improving? That's infuriating, especially when you realize how much it costs to come up and ramp for the summer and that you get maybe 20 jumps a day if you're lucky.

**This post was edited on Feb 19th 2018 at 12:56:01pm

If she was an NSer, she would be a legend right now.

Also, how long until that run hits Jerry of the Day?

Just checked her ig. Would still smash tho

saskskierIf she was an NSer, she would be a legend right now.

Also, how long until that run hits Jerry of the Day?

I think she actually has a NS account

https://www.newschoolers.com/member/PowderKitten.235726/Videos

rudeboyWtf is wrong with all you self absorbed fucktards get your heads out of your fucking arses she is living her dream. Anyone hating on the fact that she is at the olympics is a fucking cunt and a fucking embarrassment to ‘freeskiing’. Whatever happened to skiing being about fun / being stoked for others. This is a prime example of you all being a bunch of fucking haters. I say good on her for fulfilling her dream of going to the olympics. Sorry for rant but I have to get this of my chest. The pic of her Twitter makes me so fucking angry and sad at the same time. I’ve been on Newschoolers since the very beginning and this is a fucking embarrassment to the whole Newschool movement, we get to the olympics and within 4 years we turn into a bunch of hypochritical hating arsewipes, get your shit together newschoolers.

barbora_novakFrom from position exactly are you mocking this girl? Yes she can barely ski.

You answered your own question.

Well you it’s can all put your back hairs done em and relax. Here’s a thread on r/Olympics about the matter and they see through the bullshit. Don’t worry, your safe space hasn’t been compromised.

https://www.reddit.com/r/olympics/comments/7ynsoy/elizabeth_swaney_with_the_most_epic_freestyle/?st=JDUO0QC3&sh=c60c0a9a

This isn't a new thing. In swimming, for example, countries without a single pool still have to select an athlete to compete. They invariably get slower times that an average canadian or american 12 year old but they're still representing their country at the olympics, and they're still stoked to be doing it. This girls doing the same thing, just twisting the system to her advantage. Respect imo.

Have u even read anything
she ain't even Hungarian

Bushdid9_11This isn't a new thing. In swimming, for example, countries without a single pool still have to select an athlete to compete. They invariably get slower times that an average canadian or american 12 year old but they're still representing their country at the olympics, and they're still stoked to be doing it. This girls doing the same thing, just twisting the system to her advantage. Respect imo.

Breaking_RadAll this time I just thought she was being "core". You know, really mastering turning in the pipe and not really trying to confuse it with all the spinny/grabby stuff. Take it back to its roots.

New wave as fuck or ultra old ocean old school?

twatt_chaurusI think she actually has a NS account

https://www.newschoolers.com/member/PowderKitten.235726/Videos

User's email checks out. It's actually her lol

that girl couldn't make a podium in a USASA 10-11 year old girl category in Colorado.

Shit I've got some Slovenian and Italian ancestry, sounds like next Olympics is calling my name. Bitch can barely ski switch, if she can make it I can too. #inspirational

This story may be going viral

https://www.newschoolers.com/news/read/Drunk-Korean-Woman-Scored-53-0-Falling-Pipe

Holy fuck, how did I miss this?

theabortionatorhttps://www.newschoolers.com/news/read/Drunk-Korean-Woman-Scored-53-0-Falling-Pipe

Holy fuck, how did I miss this?

this was fucking incredible.

been happening in the Olympics for years. ex: eddy the eagle, Jamaican bobsled team. theres even two girls from texas who have Nigerian ancestry who picked up bobsledding to go to the games for Nigeria this year.

rudeboyWtf is wrong with all you self absorbed fucktards get your heads out of your fucking arses she is living her dream. Anyone hating on the fact that she is at the olympics is a fucking cunt and a fucking embarrassment to ‘freeskiing’. Whatever happened to skiing being about fun / being stoked for others. This is a prime example of you all being a bunch of fucking haters. I say good on her for fulfilling her dream of going to the olympics. Sorry for rant but I have to get this of my chest. The pic of her Twitter makes me so fucking angry and sad at the same time. I’ve been on Newschoolers since the very beginning and this is a fucking embarrassment to the whole Newschool movement, we get to the olympics and within 4 years we turn into a bunch of hypochritical hating arsewipes, get your shit together newschoolers.

If she didnt use the "im doing it to inspire the people of hungary" i would not give a shit. The only reason she is there is to become an olympic athlete so she should just admit that she is doing it 100% for her own personal reasons.

Anybdy know when the finals will be aired?

MothaHuckerAnybdy know when the finals will be aired?

I'm wondering the same. At least for the stream

MothaHuckerAnybdy know when the finals will be aired?

theabortionatorI'm wondering the same. At least for the stream

right now

Kretzschmarright now

Thanks!

Thought they'd be on later

Kretzschmarright now

NBC in denver is playing bullshit ice dancing instead

MothaHuckerNBC in denver is playing bullshit ice dancing instead

It's live on the NBC stream. Idk what time they're going to show it on TV

https://olympics.cbc.ca/video/todays-events/freestyle-skiing-feb-women-halfpipe-finals/

Yea, for all who defend this, it's bullshit. It's antithetical to the Olympics. It's antithetical to competition.

Seems like a lot of folks want to compare this to Eric Moussambani swimming in 2000. Please, the differences couldn't be any more stark. In case y'all didn't realize, aside from oil monies, Equatorial Guinea is a poor ass country at the mercy of a corrupt despot. Beyond that, Eric got in on a lottery; he hadn't swam prior to getting into the Olympics. You read that right. We cheered for him because he had only been swimming for a couple of months in total, and gave it his all completely alone in the pool. He didn't have the trainers, coaches, dietitians, world-class training facilities, support of his government, finances to make it all happen. None of that. After all that, even the IOC was like "yea, that was a bit much" and stopped that program. What's impressive is he trained afterwards to get much better, shaving a minute from his time, aiming for a bit of redemption and face-saving in 2004 (but the government was like... nah). Effort. Respect.

When we look at Swaney we have none of that. We have a spoiled narcissist that gamed the system. It wouldn't be so bad, except she tried this before... with a completely different sport. AND SHE HAS BEEN DOING IT FOR YEARS. She has the time and means to travel the world to attend these competitions. Has access to coaching and training facilities. What does she do? The same thing every time: up the wall, don't fall. There is no effort. There is no attempt at effort. She played the system. Good for her? I guess the silver lining is there will be, just like with Moussambani, future changes so this doesn't happen again. Spence and Belanger were diplomatic in their response but the sentiment was clear: this is bullshit.

Naturally, there are others in the Olympics that jump through some hoops for various reasons. We saw the German pair skating team of Aliona Savchenko and Bruno Massot last week. Neither are from Germany, but we don't give them shit (well, maybe a little) because they COMPETE (and there are various reasons too). There are plenty of others that use something like dual-citizenship to squeak in where they might not otherwise be able to qualify. It may not be ideal, but for fucks sake it is nowhere near as egregious as this. Stop trying to normalize it. Ignore and ostracize it, instead.

**This post was edited on Feb 19th 2018 at 9:42:45pm

barbora_novakI cannot believe I am seeing this. From from position exactly are you mocking this girl? Yes she can barely ski but apparently she is smart enough to game the system and show stupid it is. There were many times when I was tempted to say my opinion about the shit you do or say but I didn´t because I am starting to feel slightly sorry for you. Do you have any self-reflection? As was mentioned in the previous comment I don´t think there would be much of a difference if 360s and sw360 were done instead of just straight airs. I understand you are heartbroken about not going to the Olympics but there are thousands of other people who won´t get to go for the same reasons and no one is mocking others publicly. I have noticed that you probably have low self esteem issues or maybe it is a deeper problem and in that case, it is nothing to be ashamed of because you can hardly affect how your neurotransmitter work unless you treat them with pills, but that doesn´t give you any credit for these sort of comments. First you criticize Zuzicka for doing naked photoshoot and why? Because you can barely see her tits or because itś bad for women who fight for equality. Well if it the second case you are not exactly helping them by taking snaps in sports bra and shorts, in my mind itś the same thing. And since i am mentioning it everyone is free to do whatever the fuck they want with their body. Secondly this rant about Swaney and the olympics, there is no need for this behaviour. I think you are a smart girl since you have managed to financially support your skiing over the years and that takes certain amount of intelligence, so why this? I am not telling you this to hate you publicly but more to finally say something. On your IG you say that you might not be everyone favorites tea but fuck it. Well you might not be but do you really want to be ridiculed by everyone? next time before you say something like this think harder if it isn´t irrelevant from your position. I think you are probably a nice girl and it´s not too late to show the world your other qualities.

So you're supporting swaney's abilities to "Game the system" knowing that its absolutely bullshit, people got fucked over, but thats okay because shes trying to make a statement about the flaws of competition skiing? You're okay with this? You're okay with this girl making an absolute fucking mockery (yet again) of womens skiing? This lady just made a fool out of every competitor there and you still think this is some empowerment bullshit? get a fucking grip.

Beside the point, but you also have the audacity to assume and project mental health/self image/personality issues onto the OP for making a statement on this situation? Also those tidbits about OP's instagram posts? These are thinly-veiled personal attacks and digs at the OP for simply stating her opinion. YOu dont have to agree with it but damn, at least support her right to voice an opinion, not assume shes some mentally ill person who projects shit onto people. Sounds like you have some issues that you need to come to grips with yourself.

FUUUCKಠ_ಠ


https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/797516/Elizabeth-Swaney--Summer-Halfpipe-Cross-Training-for-Hungary-

This is like a really really bad sponsor me tape.

This dumb bitch blocked me on Twitter bc I gave her a little shit. I just wanted to know why no attempt at a 3 or even reaching the top of the pipe. I asked her if she was proud of herself. She blocked me immediately. Cassie Sharp fucking murdered it today. And I hope after qualis all the girls surrounded swaney and all took shots. Lik3 a gang initiation.

SWANEY FOR PRES 2020
I THINK SHE CAN DO IT THIS TIME GUYS.

FUUUCKಠ_ಠ


https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/797516/Elizabeth-Swaney--Summer-Halfpipe-Cross-Training-for-Hungary-

this just gave me cancer

Its not the fact that she found the flaw in the system that irritates me, its the perceived lack of effort. When you've been training for as long as she has with coaching and the financial means to travel the world, the potential is there if you put the effort in. If she was trying 5s or something and fell, that'd be more respectable. This proves that just because someone can afford coaching, it doesn't mean they're going to be good. Case and point: me. I blew a whole season at a well known ski academy fucking around and not putting in effort and waiting for tricks to happen without really trying that hard. I think its the same shit happening here, except I got my shit together the season after and this lady has been stuck in that mental state for the past 5 years (at least).

SWANEY DID NOT STOP ANYONE ELSE FROM COMPETING BY DOING WHAT SHE DID

We know what we know and our opinion of women's skiing won't be swayed or changed drastically. However, I'm really sorry to all the girls out there. A girl like Swaney competing drags the whole average of the competition down, all-of-the-sudden girls have to prove their worth even though they just competed in an Olympic event. Outsiders don't get it and that's where the problem arises. Keep this girl off snow, she's cancer.

This is pathetic and makes a mockery of people who work their asses off not because of what she did, but her reasons behind it (from what I can see). It's pretty lame but on a side note the announcing was hilarious on her run. They didn't even know what to say. I'm surprised they held it together and weren't just like, what the fuck is this person doing? Did somebody poach the course?

I think she’s great. A fantastic role model for women. You go Liz!

you know where this hinders the sport, is when I showed it to teh guys I work with who dont ski. Their first reaction was always "shes good enough to go to the olympics?" its only hindering the sport of womens halfpipe which already gets so much flack. Every skier knows oh she cheated the system just to get a bib and a story. But for non skiers, the people who maybe never thought about skiing but are like oh shit, that looks super cool, watch taht and go "are you fucking kidding me? thats one of the best female skiers? what a joke"

also, the chick looks like straight up evil cunt. every girl ive met with evil eyes like that have alterior motives.

rudeboySWANEY DID NOT STOP ANYONE ELSE FROM COMPETING BY DOING WHAT SHE DID

Oh hi, swaneys boyfriend.