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linus_deboss
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As already depicted in the title - is there anyone out there who, just as me, just skis because its so damn fun, yet they got quite good at it.

Being a student and broke as fuck all the time, didn't we all think about maybe trying to get some free gear?


Well I have. I didn't even get replies... I would understand a kind "Nah mane, you suck and our team is full, but hey, keep trying"... but just no reply at all - that's kind of a punch in the face.

I don't ski for the money, I ski for the fun. Skiing is hella expensive and there are lots of people where you wonder how they got sponsors (no front) - just kinda frustrating to struggle to even only get some hardware (skiing on old used planks since 1.5 years now).



Anyone else experienced this? Discussions? I'm not whining I'm just wondering...
Jun 12 2017 6:06PM
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Cole9
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I was racing before, so, yah, I'd say I got that edge control lol

surface swaps... dear mister, there were surface swap pretz4s and surface swaps on skinny rails... tbh bs surface is one of my favorite tricks haha


not getting all hot, just stated my opinion that rail skiing is underrated, as you said yourself, you think spinning in, on and out doesn't show actual skiing skill - well, actually, it do, I would say.

tl;dr; I disagree.[/QUOTE]
First of all you come off as a dick you ask for help people give you reasonable constructive criticism and you get all butthurt and explain why they are wrong. I honestly hope that you are not this way when trying to get a sponsorship. Just a hunch but maybe it's not your skiing that's the problem to why you're not getting sponsored maybe it's just you come off as a stuck up park rat.
Jun 18 2017 12:19PM
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woodwvrd
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Mr.BishopYeah or local reps... especially the large and semi-large companies will have a Rep force out there and your first flow sponsorship would be directly with one of them because you can help them push product in the area.


good advice, always go through your local reps. even if you don't work at a ski shop, get familiar with the important people at your local one and try to get some connections.
Jun 18 2017 6:54PM
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freestyler540
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Skiing is expensive as shit. Seems like if you going to afford gear, you will be working so damn hard to pay if off...resulting in never using your new gear. The only people who have expensive gear are the kids whose parents are rich. Or, they are fucking noobs who dont even know how to use the gear.

Just chill man, patience is a virtue. One of 3 things are going to happen: you get a job that has actual cash flow, You will find a great deal on gear or you will win free gear in a contest. With those skills on rails, I cant see how you are not on top.

Companies dont owe you shit. Just because you ride their product doesnt entitle you to free gear and money. Its a hard lesson because we are all kinda cocky, but its a valued one. Just be humbled that you can ski.

Im 29 and been in the game for 16 years. I have sent resumes to every rep that I met and not a single response. There are 2 options; either take it and keep trying or make your own brand to show them up...when they want your business, you can flip them the bird.

Have fun, put out more edits and be a respectable person...thats the best we can all do
Jun 18 2017 8:29PM
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skiP.E.I.
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It sounds like you already have some friends hooking you up with cheap planks, which is already great! Taking good care of your gear is really important too. I know park skis take lots of abuse, but if you let them dry out regularly, wax them, trim off peeling topsheet bits, keep your brakes working, mend rips in outerwear, etc. That will both make your gear last and make you appear more professional.
It's very important to have a positive attitude which you present to everyone. Don't complain about equipment, crowds, weather, park conditions, or whatever, just make the best of what you have (and from the edit, you have it pretty good). Work on being charismatic. Chat to everyone who's interested in talking on the lift, in the park lineups or wherever. Help the groms out with learning tricks. Just generally try to make people feel welcome.
Get involved in the ski industry in other ways... that could be coaching, getting a part time job in a shop, helping the park crew, taking photos. This is a small industry where any professional contacts can be a big help.
Bring your other interests in somehow, to make your own contribution to skiing. People will notice if you display any unique interest.
Lastly, be patient! I have a friend who has been skiing for years, started freestyle before the 'newschool' existed, diligently progressing in park skiing, backcountry and instructing, made contributions to the local scene in terms of new lines, guiding, avalanche safety and awareness in his corner of the world, and got a sponsor in his early 30s.
Jun 19 2017 7:40PM
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.squirrely.
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Lil_G-nuslol yeah was supposed to be 4:20


fucking SICK dude weed is tight sponsors need to know you blaze
Jun 19 2017 11:37PM
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linus_deboss
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.squirrely.fucking SICK dude weed is tight sponsors need to know you blaze


It would have been ironic, I'm secondary grade school teacher, hence I don't do any of that shit.
Plus I highly doubt any brand reps n stuff know about 420.
Jun 23 2017 8:05AM
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JmckR
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Lil_G-nuslook at ALL those fucking kids being able to huck ugly cork9s - boom, they got sponsors.
but all these little shits barely can make it through a curved rail or even worse are afraid of kinked rails.


Lil_G-nusI'm secondary grade school teacher,


All makes sense now
Jun 23 2017 2:19PM
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Saga.
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You definitely have some skills. But when looking to be sponsored you need to set yourself apart from everyone else. Simply being able to do the hard tricks in the park that other people who are sponsored can do isn't enough. Keep pushing yourself.
Jun 23 2017 3:13PM
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Park.
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Saga.You definitely have some skills. But when looking to be sponsored you need to set yourself apart from everyone else. Simply being able to do the hard tricks in the park that other people who are sponsored can do isn't enough. Keep pushing yourself.


if you dont listen to any of us you should listen to the people doing the sponsoring
Jun 23 2017 3:20PM
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Aparker
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jmckay7All makes sense now

tbh never seen a kid do a cork 9 who is scared of hitting a kinked rail
Jun 24 2017 2:42PM
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Jesse_
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Aparkertbh never seen a kid do a cork 9 who is scared of hitting a kinked rail


This flew by me and you're totally right. What kid can do a perfect cork 9 but bitches out on kinked rails lol.
Jun 24 2017 4:53PM
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OldNJaded
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It's best to JUST SKI for the love. Pride yourself in how well you throw that cork 3. Being broke is part of the game, that's what shitty jobs are for. Work in the industry to get what deals you can.

I bar tend all summer and work rentals all winter.

Sacrifice and slide...or don't.
Jun 24 2017 7:38PM
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snomaster
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maybe you don't need to jump but I cannot watch 4+ minutes of just rails and neither will anyone else outside of this website. that's a super limited market. Consider cutting your edit to 90 seconds and mix as much variety as you can with your butters and couple small airs.
if you aren't willing to do that, just keep doing you and don't worry 'bout a thing.
Jun 26 2017 11:58AM
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snowpocalypse
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Not too sure what else I can add other than, when ever I got a "sponsor me" email, it instantly went into the trash. I had way too much going on to read and watch ever single "I'm cool" vid. I'm sure I passed up some super unknown that I should be kicking myself for....... but I'm not. If you're not already on the radar of one of my contacts, I don't have time. Skiing's like all other business, at this point it's relationships. Who you know, who will go to bat for you and what you can do for me and the business. It sounds callous and dick but that's the fact of the matter. As others have stated, you need to be networking. You are NOT cool enough to not ski a set of 85 under foot sticks, You are not too cool to not talk to one company or the other. There will always be 10 other kiddos out there that will and will with a smile.

Its not just your tech game, it's on point. Get results, meet people, and enjoy yourself. I would add that I would have a very hard time flowing a true deal to someone with a real job. For starters you don't have the time to really dedicate yourself to the company. You "should" be making enough to sponsor yourself, Not saying you do, I'm just giving you real world rational. Lastly if do have a real job you are aged out of most of what we are looking for. Sorry,
Jun 26 2017 4:25PM
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linus_deboss
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snowpocalypseNot too sure what else I can add other than, when ever I got a "sponsor me" email, it instantly went into the trash. I had way too much going on to read and watch ever single "I'm cool" vid. I'm sure I passed up some super unknown that I should be kicking myself for....... but I'm not. If you're not already on the radar of one of my contacts, I don't have time. Skiing's like all other business, at this point it's relationships. Who you know, who will go to bat for you and what you can do for me and the business. It sounds callous and dick but that's the fact of the matter. As others have stated, you need to be networking. You are NOT cool enough to not ski a set of 85 under foot sticks, You are not too cool to not talk to one company or the other. There will always be 10 other kiddos out there that will and will with a smile.

Its not just your tech game, it's on point. Get results, meet people, and enjoy yourself. I would add that I would have a very hard time flowing a true deal to someone with a real job. For starters you don't have the time to really dedicate yourself to the company. You "should" be making enough to sponsor yourself, Not saying you do, I'm just giving you real world rational. Lastly if do have a real job you are aged out of most of what we are looking for. Sorry,


not to sound dicky or anything, but THIS is what's wrong with the industry... if it's relationships and not skiing, why should I try to differ myself? why should I try to do this do that if I can instead just go suck a CEO dick and get sponsored?

plus, concerning your real job talk - I didn't quite get why you mentioned that, I don't have a real job, I'm still studying and won't be paid to teach until in 3 - 3.5 years (I do work as a teacher sometimes but that's part of teaching education, I don't get paid for that)



and to the cork9 vs kinked rail talk above - Colin Willi, not sure if that name rings a bell to anyone (@colinwilli on insta), when I met him, could dub12 but was too scared to hit the DFD in Laax simply because he barely had any rails at his homepark - this was 4 years ago tho, now he does chill 630on 2outs on 8m rails lol
Jun 27 2017 5:47PM
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snowpocalypse
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Lil_G-nusnot to sound dicky or anything, but THIS is what's wrong with the industry... if it's relationships and not skiing, why should I try to differ myself? why should I try to do this do that if I can instead just go suck a CEO dick and get sponsored?

plus, concerning your real job talk - I didn't quite get why you mentioned that, I don't have a real job, I'm still studying and won't be paid to teach until in 3 - 3.5 years (I do work as a teacher sometimes but that's part of teaching education, I don't get paid for that)



and to the cork9 vs kinked rail talk above - Colin Willi, not sure if that name rings a bell to anyone (@colinwilli on insta), when I met him, could dub12 but was too scared to hit the DFD in Laax simply because he barely had any rails at his homepark - this was 4 years ago tho, now he does chill 630on 2outs on 8m rails lol


You stated that you were teaching and thus I thought you were a certified teacher and got paid as such, my miss communication. As for everything else... No one is looking for the same old same old BUT we are looking for riders that fits with the companies image and people we like. If I have a Rep that I have known for years, that I trust and consider a friend, call me up and tells me to take a look at some kid I will. If I have a shop that has been a valued partner for years, drops me a line and tells me of a rider or shop rat that we should look into, sure as shit we will. You forget you are not special, Just like I learned the hard way, EVERY one is replaceable, and there is always someone better than you. So skip the attitude and bring a smile to table not a chip on your shoulder. I don't know you and you could be a really cool dude, but the "why not me?" attitude reeks of entitlement. That's not flattering on anyone. Just giving advice not judging.


PS I don't expect anyone other than my wife to suck my dick, but a smile and a handshake, I'll take, and will go just as far.
Jun 27 2017 6:27PM
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Sharko
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Lil_G-nusnot to sound dicky or anything, but THIS is what's wrong with the industry... if it's relationships and not skiing, why should I try to differ myself? why should I try to do this do that if I can instead just go suck a CEO dick and get sponsored?


No, THIS is what's wrong with your attitude. You are not realizing that sponsorships are business. It isn't a trophy that the universe hands out for being a pretty good rail skier.

In one sentence: Because you are working on a career outside of the industry you can't spend enough time on snow, put out enough edits, or have a diverse enough bag of tricks to effectively advertise skis, therefore no one would profit from sponsoring you.
Jun 27 2017 8:07PM
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JmckR
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jmckay7All makes sense now


Aparkertbh never seen a kid do a cork 9 who is scared of hitting a kinked rail


Mine was a sarcastic comment. My point is that he teaches kids in the classroom in the week, then goes up to the park in the weekend and see the kids he teaches in class are most likely better than him in the park. That's where all this frustration is boiling from lmao
Jun 28 2017 5:38AM
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linus_deboss
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jmckay7Mine was a sarcastic comment. My point is that he teaches kids in the classroom in the week, then goes up to the park in the weekend and see the kids he teaches in class are most likely better than him in the park. That's where all this frustration is boiling from lmao


haha nah dude... you're just so wrong boi.... I love seeing kids progress that's why I chose to become a teacher, hell, it's the best if you see kids rip harder than you but they still ask you if you got tips because you're older than them... soooo wrong dude, soooooooo wrong
Jul 9 2017 6:30AM
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dan4060
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Lil_G-nusif there were any offers...

https://vimeo.com/218530949

you guys tell me if its even worth trying


Honestly I follow big mountain skiing so I'm not really the one to judge. You look good to me at what you are doing, but like I said I watch bit mountain stuff.

In the big mountain arena there are tons of guys who deserve sponsorship who won't ever get there. There are also lots of guys who are sponsored, but will never be in an AK heli for TGR or MSP. There are simply lots of people chasing around dollars in a limited industry. When I lived in Tahoe Squaw would blow your mind on a pow day. There were the rock stars, McConkey, JT Homes, CR, but there were also tons of locals out there hitting clean 50 footers and stomping 4 point landings. There were non-sponsored guys throwing tricks off the Palisades.

The point is that it is really tough. Scott and Robb Gaffney were definitely good enough to get sponsored. In ski movie 2 you can watch Scott hit a double stage cliff drop in Mainline Pocket called Mystery where he does a misty 7 off the second cliff. I don't know why those guys never got sponsored, but they deserved it. Truth be told, it is probably better for them that they didn't. Scott is still with MSP and Robb is a doctor, which is better than being a pro skier unless you are Jon, Candide, or a couple of other guys. Most pros really don't make any money.

Good luck.
Jul 9 2017 1:24PM
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linus_deboss
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dan4060Honestly I follow big mountain skiing so I'm not really the one to judge. You look good to me at what you are doing, but like I said I watch bit mountain stuff.

In the big mountain arena there are tons of guys who deserve sponsorship who won't ever get there. There are also lots of guys who are sponsored, but will never be in an AK heli for TGR or MSP. There are simply lots of people chasing around dollars in a limited industry. When I lived in Tahoe Squaw would blow your mind on a pow day. There were the rock stars, McConkey, JT Homes, CR, but there were also tons of locals out there hitting clean 50 footers and stomping 4 point landings. There were non-sponsored guys throwing tricks off the Palisades.

The point is that it is really tough. Scott and Robb Gaffney were definitely good enough to get sponsored. In ski movie 2 you can watch Scott hit a double stage cliff drop in Mainline Pocket called Mystery where he does a misty 7 off the second cliff. I don't know why those guys never got sponsored, but they deserved it. Truth be told, it is probably better for them that they didn't. Scott is still with MSP and Robb is a doctor, which is better than being a pro skier unless you are Jon, Candide, or a couple of other guys. Most pros really don't make any money.

Good luck.


not about the money man... just gear to get by doing what I, what we, love. so much people would deserve it, so much people don't deserve it who have it, and the industry is fueled by the gapers and not the actual shredders anyways... smh
Jul 9 2017 4:21PM
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JmckR
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Lil_G-nushaha nah dude... you're just so wrong boi.... I love seeing kids progress that's why I chose to become a teacher, hell, it's the best if you see kids rip harder than you but they still ask you if you got tips because you're older than them... soooo wrong dude, soooooooo wrong


Ok mate, fair enough
Jul 9 2017 5:01PM
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kingsskier
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Lil_G-nusstart your day with a good laughter they say


You came off 90 short half the time and the times you did come off without washing out or sideways, you did not look smooth.
You have skills, WAY more than me. But, I dont see anything that sets you apart from any other good skier out there, and there are TONS. Maybe not on your mountain, but there are. As the Saga account said, you need to stand out, not just meet the norm of a good skier.

Also, thats a well groomed park on a nice looking mountain. I find it hard to believe it doesnt have reps.
Jul 10 2017 7:55AM
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Oldschooler57
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using words like "fuck" a lot in social media posts will really encourage big time sponsors and professionally run companies to sponsor you. That's the ticket for sure.
Jul 10 2017 1:14PM
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Bassin
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I've had luck with dick pics.
Jul 10 2017 1:21PM
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dan4060
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Lil_G-nusnot about the money man... just gear to get by doing what I, what we, love. so much people would deserve it, so much people don't deserve it who have it, and the industry is fueled by the gapers and not the actual shredders anyways... smh


I'm glad you are not doing it for financial reasons. That is really the wrong reason to be in skiing, or just about any other action sport. Truth be told much of the ski industry is fueled by gapers, intermediate skiers who ski 5 days a year on carving skis are the majority of customers out there, there really are not many people who follow the industry seriously, although you would not know it on this website.

As far as people being undeserving, I'm not really one to judge. There are lots of people who are deserving who don't get much, but I would say the top guns in the industry over the last 20 years, people like McConkey, Seth Morrison, Kreitler, Tanner and Candide, do deserve what they get. I'm not saying you are saying they don't, just making the point that those guys have done a ton for skiing and I'm happy to see the get what they deserve.

Like I said before, it is tough and political. Years ago there was a film company called Pimpin' Frogs that was based in Whistler. One of the guys who used to ski with them was Leif Zapf-Gilye (spelling?), who absolutely killed it. I remember an interview where he talked about how having the wrong sponsors meant that he couldn't film with the big companies. There were lots of guys with the frogs who were really great skiers, there is just a small piece of pie in the industry, there are more great skiers than there are dollars. Those films are great by the way, very underrated.
Jul 10 2017 1:28PM
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snowpocalypse
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Lil_G-nusnot about the money man... just gear to get by doing what I, what we, love. so much people would deserve it, so much people don't deserve it who have it, and the industry is fueled by the gapers and not the actual shredders anyways... smh


You just quoted life its self. You sound like entitled, cry baby. I get it, life isn't always fair. There are plenty of people that DESERVE all sorts of things, but guess what..... They don't. The only way to change that is to work harder. The world doesn't owe you a damn thing. The "industry" doesn't owe you gear, money or a pat on the back. Its not run by Gapers. Its run by HARD WORKING people that take their jobs and the future of OUR sports seriously.
Jul 10 2017 2:23PM
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hi_vis360
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dan4060In ski movie 2 you can watch Scott hit a double stage cliff drop in Mainline Pocket called Mystery where he does a misty 7 off the second cliff.


this is one of the sickest shots ever straight up, blows my mind every time I see it
Jul 10 2017 4:08PM
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dan4060
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Lil_G-nusI don't know man variety is a wide definition... I feel like besides certain spins my rail game varies greatly as in it includes a big amount of tricks that exist, but yeah, I don't fux with the Bunch or that kind of "variety" in skiing.

also, kind of saddening that it really comes to to kickering - I love great kicker game, but I just feel like I lack the style that would add the touch to my skiing if I included kickering in my edits...

of course street would be an option, but ain't no student got time for that, plus it's no fun, and that's the main reason I ski, fun.

and adding powder to an edit just for variety - lets be honest, if its not some crazy ass couloir or a huge BC jump were you could huck a trip (try building that with almost no snow), it's boring as hell to watch...


I think you are hitting on part of the problem, if all you have to offer is rail game that is not very much, and that's putting it nicely. If you go somewhere where people are into big mountain skiing, like TGR, you will be looked at as a park rat who can only slide rails, and will be critiqued harshly. If the only thing you are good at is rails, that is not much to offer.

As to powder segments being boring, that is flat out absurd. If you included a few shots of yourself arching huge turns in a powder field, or skiing pow in the trees with some serious style, that would make you come off as more of a versatile skier. It does not need to be a crazy couloir or a kicker or cliff, although that would be nice. Right now all your clip shows is that you are good a rails, which is a very small part of skiing. If you are trying to be a pro park skier you had better be able to hit kickers with some serious style. If the only thing you bring to the game is rails, why would anyone give you free stuff? Show some versatility.
Jul 10 2017 8:14PM
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arnie_grape
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no rep will want anything to do with your bitch ass after this thread. when you made this did you think that someone would see all your whiney complaints and offer you a deal?
Jul 10 2017 8:51PM
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funkynuggz
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fuck this shit is entertaining

i closed out the vid after 30sec looked like i was back in 07-09 when every one was doing the same shit on rails. if you jus wanna stick wit rails that’s dope but better start doing other tricks then 2on and swaps on every rail. get into the nollie and butter game. nose manny coming into the rail n do a nollie lip tail n press the shit out of it and land smooth like it was effortless like how bdog n henny does it. hit street rails, you have ur balance on lock and if your rail game is legit like you think it is. hitting urban rails is the best way to test your shit out. i rather and lot of the people on here would agree watching a urban rail edit wit big dfd or wat ev. then a park edit with the same shot and tricks done on the same rail. if you want to progress and get sponsored. you gotta start hitting shit that’s never been already filmed on and start getting more creative with your rail game. hell even throwing a one footer would been better then watching another 2on 4or6 out. last.. no one will wanna sponsor you with the way you come off. hell they might even reply back with a “fuck no” after reading your thread. maybe next time don’t make a sponsor me thread, instead try and get big in the social media game. get enough followers you can get paid for jus posting lil rail vids and get away wit it
Jul 13 2017 11:23PM
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Segsxi
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I'm only decent at Skiing but I have had 3 offers so far. I declined 2 of them only because I want to rep my own beand and have athletes lined up to rep my brand. The other sponsor was for gear.
I say these days it's all about what the camera and your audience sees.If you suck eggs at rails but can hit an easy 5 like I can, get it filmed.
I too enjoy skiing just for the excitment not for the hype. If you are serious about sponsorship invest in a good camera, and Network with anyone and everyone!
Best of luck to all of you out there with your sponshorship endevours!
Jul 14 2017 1:40AM
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funkynuggz
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but lot of rail guys can hit jumps n look good on em. you don’t gotta buck your self. start out getting your 180s and 3s looking smooth. then get into 5s. i rather see a sw5 lead blunt done real smooth vs a huck dub10. stept boys are rail guys but they also can jump. start jumping or go tranny
Jul 14 2017 6:42AM
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HuckNorris44
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This kid reminds me of Lavar Ball, but is horrible at marketing his "brand"

Reminds me of when Lavar was talking about trying to "negotiate" with Nike, Adidas, and Under Armour

The kicker, Lonzo is actually one of the best young players around, this kid, not so much when related to skiing
Jul 14 2017 8:18PM
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Segsxi
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GnarcoThis kid reminds me of Lavar Ball, but is horrible at marketing his "brand"

Reminds me of when Lavar was talking about trying to "negotiate" with Nike, Adidas, and Under Armour

The kicker, Lonzo is actually one of the best young players around, this kid, not so much when related to skiing


Well I appreciate your opinion. The thing is I'm not just affiliating my brand with skiing, skiing would definately be one of the bigger hits considering the size of the industry; but it is not the only "lifestyle" that would be featured. My startup is only in the 2nd month and within the next year I plan to have a developing website where all of you can(If you want to) share your videos and your stories with the world not just with the skiing community of NS(And there is marketing done for me). Sure not all of you want to share your talents with the world and that is great give yourself a pat on the back! Also in regards to what I think of sponsorships,I was trying to say that if nobody sees your talent you most likely won't get a sponsor. Filming is a relatively inexpensive way to get your talent out there. When it comes to talent a lot of people would be blown away if they see you doing butter tricks(I personally think butter tricks are The shit). Whatever you do, if you make it look stylish and you add your own blend(something as simple as a hand gesture at the end of a jump would look steezy) people should appreciate it.
Jul 14 2017 11:21PM
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BendikOye
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If you spent your time working at your local sport shop, rather than replying to this tread all the time, im pretty sure you could aford a fresh pair of skis in a day or two...

Just saying;)
Jul 16 2017 7:48AM
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ghoti_hook
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You have your school hook ups, right? Just talk to your principal and Five Star rep. I hear they are always looking for people to be represented on trapper keepers.


Jul 16 2017 4:23PM
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Auzy
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Your edit was sick. You definitely have some mad skill, but after watching 30 seconds I felt like I had seen it all. Even if they were different tricks they all start to look the same when its just spins with the same angles onto the same rails. Your rail game is sick, but the way you market yourself is kinda shit. As everyone else said, just because you have some tricks in your bag doesn't mean the ski industry owes you anything.
Jul 19 2017 11:01AM
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Jesse_
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GnarcoThis kid reminds me of Lavar Ball, but is horrible at marketing his "brand"

Reminds me of when Lavar was talking about trying to "negotiate" with Nike, Adidas, and Under Armour

The kicker, Lonzo is actually one of the best young players around, this kid, not so much when related to skiing


The Lavar and Lonzo situation is in my opinion the polar opposite of this...
Jul 19 2017 1:42PM
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SammyDubz
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huntercusWell I appreciate your opinion. The thing is I'm not just affiliating my brand with skiing, skiing would definately be one of the bigger hits considering the size of the industry; but it is not the only "lifestyle" that would be featured. My startup is only in the 2nd month and within the next year I plan to have a developing website where all of you can(If you want to) share your videos and your stories with the world not just with the skiing community of NS(And there is marketing done for me). Sure not all of you want to share your talents with the world and that is great give yourself a pat on the back! Also in regards to what I think of sponsorships,I was trying to say that if nobody sees your talent you most likely won't get a sponsor. Filming is a relatively inexpensive way to get your talent out there. When it comes to talent a lot of people would be blown away if they see you doing butter tricks(I personally think butter tricks are The shit). Whatever you do, if you make it look stylish and you add your own blend(something as simple as a hand gesture at the end of a jump would look steezy) people should appreciate it.


A) he wasn't talking about you

B) hahahahaha what is this
Jul 19 2017 2:42PM
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HuckNorris44
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SammyDubzA) he wasn't talking about you

B) hahahahaha what is this


👏
Jul 19 2017 10:05PM
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disappointmett
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Skiing isn't about begging for free gear either. I get that it's expensive but there are ways around that. Kiiji gear, you don't always need.next years same old same old, work in the industry, proforms are amazing that way!
Jul 20 2017 11:16AM
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RZcrew
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Lil_G-nusand this is a point which I find horrible.

rail skiing doesn't get valued as much as it should.

look at ALL those fucking kids being able to huck ugly cork9s - boom, they got sponsors.
but all these little shits barely can make it through a curved rail or even worse are afraid of kinked rails.

what the fuck is this? yes, a dub 10 might be ballzier than a lip2 pretz4, but I'm damn sure the lip2 pretz3 doesn't lack the finesse that's needed to huck a dub.

even worse, rail skiing needs so much more experience because the rails just don't are the same everyday - you could say the same about a kicker, but I'm sure someone who can cork7 fucks up on none of 10, yet if you can 2p2 safely you eventually still miss one just because rails are sneaky bitches


tl;dr: dunno what y'alls opinion on this is, but rail skiing is underrated and it really frustrates me that an ugly 1080 is taken over a beautiful 1 pretz 1 on a rail anyday


this attitude might be part of the reason your having a hard time... why so negative lol let your skiing speak for it self. If you have to explain to people that your shit is dope maybe it isnt hahahah
Jul 20 2017 5:24PM
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linus_deboss
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funkynuggzfuck this shit is entertaining

i closed out the vid after 30sec looked like i was back in 07-09 when every one was doing the same shit on rails. if you jus wanna stick wit rails that’s dope but better start doing other tricks then 2on and swaps on every rail. get into the nollie and butter game. nose manny coming into the rail n do a nollie lip tail n press the shit out of it and land smooth like it was effortless like how bdog n henny does it. hit street rails, you have ur balance on lock and if your rail game is legit like you think it is. hitting urban rails is the best way to test your shit out. i rather and lot of the people on here would agree watching a urban rail edit wit big dfd or wat ev. then a park edit with the same shot and tricks done on the same rail. if you want to progress and get sponsored. you gotta start hitting shit that’s never been already filmed on and start getting more creative with your rail game. hell even throwing a one footer would been better then watching another 2on 4or6 out. last.. no one will wanna sponsor you with the way you come off. hell they might even reply back with a “fuck no” after reading your thread. maybe next time don’t make a sponsor me thread, instead try and get big in the social media game. get enough followers you can get paid for jus posting lil rail vids and get away wit it


you didn't watch it at all, noone did 1 pretz 1 on a downrail in 2007... but everybody seems to miss that shot sorta
Jul 24 2017 4:22PM
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linus_deboss
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BendikOyeIf you spent your time working at your local sport shop, rather than replying to this tread all the time, im pretty sure you could aford a fresh pair of skis in a day or two...

Just saying;)


lot's of people seem to miss that I study and there's barely time besides studying and working to go ski... so yah, I feel lucky if I can afford the fucking expensive season passes in Switzerland, but thanks for informing me that getting a job is so easy lol
Jul 24 2017 4:25PM
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SammyDubz
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Lil_G-nusyou didn't watch it at all, noone did 1 pretz 1 on a downrail in 2007... but everybody seems to miss that shot sorta


Lil_G-nuslot's of people seem to miss that I study and there's barely time besides studying and working to go ski... so yah, I feel lucky if I can afford the fucking expensive season passes in Switzerland, but thanks for informing me that getting a job is so easy lol

It's actually unreal how ignorant you are hahaha
Jul 24 2017 4:29PM
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mikemac
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Lil_G-nuslot's of people seem to miss that I study and there's barely time besides studying and working to go ski... so yah, I feel lucky if I can afford the fucking expensive season passes in Switzerland, but thanks for informing me that getting a job is so easy lol


Sooo, you're saying that you don't have an extra 4-8 hrs in the week to work at a shop to get prodeal? That could be one day or two half-shifts. You're in school all summer long? You don't think you could bring some study material to a ski shop? (you could) You ever consider that you can work at a hill, get prodeal, shred on your ski breaks, or even get a job like coaching or park crew that lets you rip all day? I get that its hard to balance work, school, skiing, and maybe having a second job but I can assure you that anyone who is a successful student/athlete/skier gets their shit done in the classroom, at work, at career oriented interships, and on the hill. Anybody living the grind in a ski town is pretty sure to have 2-5 jobs while also working on some sort of schooling (ski instructing, guiding, medical certs, sommelier certs, cooking courses, photography/video courses, or saving for grad school while skiing, working nights, and studying for entry exams). Why are you asking people for help/advice when your just gonna shut down the most popular/common answer to your problem. Thousands of people all over the world are in a similar place as you when it comes to trying to balance school, skiing, personal finances, and more, but the difference is most people hunker down, get their shit done, and figure out a way to make it work for themselves. Whining on the internet and bashing everyone who gives you constructive criticism sure isn't gonna help. You're a good skier and honestly I was rooting for you at the beginning of this thread, but
to be perfectly honest your not doing yourself any favors. Everybody tells you that shop/mountain life is the best way to get discounts and meet the people who can put you on flow, and you just whine that you have no time. Well, sorry then bud. No hookups for you.
Jul 24 2017 4:56PM
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disappointmett
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mikemacSooo, you're saying that you don't have an extra 4-8 hrs in the week to work at a shop to get prodeal? That could be one day or two half-shifts. You're in school all summer long? You don't think you could bring some study material to a ski shop? (you could) You ever consider that you can work at a hill, get prodeal, shred on your ski breaks, or even get a job like coaching or park crew that lets you rip all day? I get that its hard to balance work, school, skiing, and maybe having a second job but I can assure you that anyone who is a successful student/athlete/skier gets their shit done in the classroom, at work, at career oriented interships, and on the hill. Anybody living the grind in a ski town is pretty sure to have 2-5 jobs while also working on some sort of schooling (ski instructing, guiding, medical certs, sommelier certs, cooking courses, photography/video courses, or saving for grad school while skiing, working nights, and studying for entry exams). Why are you asking people for help/advice when your just gonna shut down the most popular/common answer to your problem. Thousands of people all over the world are in a similar place as you when it comes to trying to balance school, skiing, personal finances, and more, but the difference is most people hunker down, get their shit done, and figure out a way to make it work for themselves. Whining on the internet and bashing everyone who gives you constructive criticism sure isn't gonna help. You're a good skier and honestly I was rooting for you at the beginning of this thread, but
to be perfectly honest your not doing yourself any favors. Everybody tells you that shop/mountain life is the best way to get discounts and meet the people who can put you on flow, and you just whine that you have no time. Well, sorry then bud. No hookups for you.


^^^^^ yup
Jul 25 2017 1:52AM
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AGOF
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Lil_G-nusyou didn't watch it at all, noone did 1 pretz 1 on a downrail in 2007... but everybody seems to miss that shot sorta


* 1 pretz 1 on a short, square stock, almost flat rail
Jul 25 2017 7:23AM
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