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EcruSkunks
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Hi everyone! Just a bit of my background for a full picture. (im from UKraine, living in New Jersey, sorry in advance if some words are not properly placed, English is my second language)
i have started skiing "new school" in parks and everything relatively recent, 3 seasons ago. Im a poor dude, so going skiing 4-5 times a season is a great success for me. I have some old salomon boots from 2006, cheap atomic park skies from 2013, 30$ ski pants from Modells and oversized poles that dont have straps. Why i got into it, is because i skate inline, with aggressive skates (some dinosaurs like me may know what that is) thats why grinding on rails and boxes was not that much of a hard transition for me, i really like it, its very fun, different. And with my rollerblading background, park etiquette is a no brainer for me, therefore i always obey it.
Now going to the point. I never got into the whole industry part of it, with the clothes, the hate for "jerrys", even comments on a little clip i put out on IG of me a year ago, doing some grinds and stuff got hate, that i suck, something that you would never see in a rollerblading community, when we always encourage and show love to begginers. Of course, there are possitive coments, but the comments in many topics here put a first impression as if its a very none welcoming community. It looks as if the people must already have to be born with killing triple kink rails, wear on top notch expensive equipment and so on. Like i said, i didnt bother to care about it all, before i started reading more on here. I just hope people would be more accepting and more chill and friendly with others and be more humble. Please dont try to get me wrong, i love this sport and there are many great people, just remember that we all started from some point
Mar 17 2017 10:11PM
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EcruSkunks
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Please tell me what exactly you don't care about? also, "people like you", elaborate what does that mean?
Mar 17 2017 10:56PM
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iFlip
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Get over yourself. None of this matters. It's a recreational hobby.
Mar 17 2017 10:56PM
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Sharko
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EcruSkunksPlease tell me what exactly you don't care about? also, "people like you", elaborate what does that mean?


He's just joking, don't worry about it.
Sorry people made fun of your video, but it's not this community, it's just the way the internet is. People act shitty to each other online, if you post something, someone is going to hate on it. If you can't take the heat, don't post it online. Use that time to get out there and ski and enjoy life out in the snow, not in front of a computer screen.
Mar 17 2017 11:01PM
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EcruSkunks
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iFlipGet over yourself. None of this matters. It's a recreational hobby.


i understand that, thats exactly what i pointed out from my comment, its not that serious, its just a hobby. What im saying is the attitude is just not sportsmenshipy, thats all. i didnt write this for support, i mean i rollerblade, we were always made fun of,you know. but just simply from the first comments, my point is actually sadly kinda says for itself.
Mar 17 2017 11:12PM
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Mr.Bishop
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EcruSkunksHi everyone! Just a bit of my background for a full picture. (im from UKraine, living in New Jersey, sorry in advance if some words are not properly placed, English is my second language)
i have started skiing "new school" in parks and everything relatively recent, 3 seasons ago. Im a poor dude, so going skiing 4-5 times a season is a great success for me. I have some old salomon boots from 2006, cheap atomic park skies from 2013, 30$ ski pants from Modells and oversized poles that dont have straps. Why i got into it, is because i skate inline, with aggressive skates (some dinosaurs like me may know what that is) thats why grinding on rails and boxes was not that much of a hard transition for me, i really like it, its very fun, different. And with my rollerblading background, park etiquette is a no brainer for me, therefore i always obey it.
Now going to the point. I never got into the whole industry part of it, with the clothes, the hate for "jerrys", even comments on a little clip i put out on IG of me a year ago, doing some grinds and stuff got hate, that i suck, something that you would never see in a rollerblading community, when we always encourage and show love to begginers. Of course, there are possitive coments, but the comments in many topics here put a first impression as if its a very none welcoming community. It looks as if the people must already have to be born with killing triple kink rails, wear on top notch expensive equipment and so on. Like i said, i didnt bother to care about it all, before i started reading more on here. I just hope people would be more accepting and more chill and friendly with others and be more humble. Please dont try to get me wrong, i love this sport and there are many great people, just remember that we all started from some point


Man its funny you say that... I used to be hardcore into rollerblading, and the best part about that sport is that EVERYONE treats you with respect no matter how bad you suck. I always loved that about it, and thought that a lot of action sports could learn a thing or two from that kind of respect for people who are actively trying to grow your sport.

There's an enormous amount of skiing which is elitist... and it sucks. Sadly a load of the people even on here come from that background and they have no other frame of reference in life other than to just come into a thread like this and make shitty comments. Same on the hill... if you aren't wearing $4,000 worth of gear, you're a chump.

But that is the furthest thing from the heart of this sport there is. Sure, its the most expensive sport on the planet... but if you're passionate about it and you're having a good time - that is all that should matter.

So fuck yeah bro... welcome to the fold. Rock your cheap gear, long poles and whatever you got - and then learn some dope ass tricks in the park and show 'em all how its done.
Mar 17 2017 11:36PM
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EcruSkunks
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The referenced post has been removed.


UK is the United Kingdom, Ukraine abbreviation is UA, these are very different countries.
Im not being an asshole at all, my message was in its core to be nice to one another, its not that hard
Mar 17 2017 11:38PM
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Frozinballz
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This thread is whack
Mar 17 2017 11:46PM
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EcruSkunks
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Mr.BishopMan its funny you say that... I used to be hardcore into rollerblading, and the best part about that sport is that EVERYONE treats you with respect no matter how bad you suck. I always loved that about it, and thought that a lot of action sports could learn a thing or two from that kind of respect for people who are actively trying to grow your sport.

There's an enormous amount of skiing which is elitist... and it sucks. Sadly a load of the people even on here come from that background and they have no other frame of reference in life other than to just come into a thread like this and make shitty comments. Same on the hill... if you aren't wearing $4,000 worth of gear, you're a chump.

But that is the furthest thing from the heart of this sport there is. Sure, its the most expensive sport on the planet... but if you're passionate about it and you're having a good time - that is all that should matter.

So fuck yeah bro... welcome to the fold. Rock your cheap gear, long poles and whatever you got - and then learn some dope ass tricks in the park and show 'em all how its done.


!!!Thats exactly the attitude I was tying to come off as ! Glad you understand what i meant, i dont care being hated on or coming out as corny, that was not my point to gain support, all i was asking is more positivity towards the new dudes, more support and understanding that they may not have the proper park etiquette at first, its all a process. My only message is to spread possitivity cause we are all family and should support each other:)
Mar 17 2017 11:56PM
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EcruSkunks
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FrozinballzThis thread is whack


you have every right to think that way. But why though? What do you disagree on?
Mar 18 2017 12:00AM
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M.M
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It's terrible that your experience so far was some bullshit like that, online like someone said people love to hate because they have the protection of being behind their screen and not in front of your face.

i have not had that experience though and at my home hill its a big community with the same vibe you described in rollerblading and i couldn't be more stoked on that, everyone's hyped on eachother regardless of ability, just happy to see fellow skiers out there enjoying it. i love going up to little shredders or guys just getting into it and passing down little tips that someone once told me when i was starting out.
Mar 18 2017 12:37AM
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EcruSkunks
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M.MIt's terrible that your experience so far was some bullshit like that, online like someone said people love to hate because they have the protection of being behind their screen and not in front of your face.

i have not had that experience though and at my home hill its a big community with the same vibe you described in rollerblading and i couldn't be more stoked on that, everyone's hyped on eachother regardless of ability, just happy to see fellow skiers out there enjoying it. i love going up to little shredders or guys just getting into it and passing down little tips that someone once told me when i was starting out.


its all good bro! Thats how it supposes to be, to share knowledge and progress! thats what this thread is all about. sick edits you got there!
Mar 18 2017 1:06AM
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jakeordie
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Mr.BishopMan its funny you say that... I used to be hardcore into rollerblading, and the best part about that sport is that EVERYONE treats you with respect no matter how bad you suck. I always loved that about it, and thought that a lot of action sports could learn a thing or two from that kind of respect for people who are actively trying to grow your sport.

There's an enormous amount of skiing which is elitist... and it sucks. Sadly a load of the people even on here come from that background and they have no other frame of reference in life other than to just come into a thread like this and make shitty comments. Same on the hill... if you aren't wearing $4,000 worth of gear, you're a chump.

But that is the furthest thing from the heart of this sport there is. Sure, its the most expensive sport on the planet... but if you're passionate about it and you're having a good time - that is all that should matter.

So fuck yeah bro... welcome to the fold. Rock your cheap gear, long poles and whatever you got - and then learn some dope ass tricks in the park and show 'em all how its done.

This post and what SLVSH said on FB in response to the FIS dude have made my day. Skiing still has a long way to go before the investment class accept that what we do can't be owned & run by them, but good people in this community are gettin' the job done.

Now is such a great time to be a NSer :)
Mar 18 2017 1:11AM
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Rparr
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Most of us are just out here trying to ski. There's always heckling shitheads, they're just best ignored. Also I find the kids who talk a lot of shit generally lack skill themselves. It's quite ironic.
Mar 18 2017 7:05AM
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fortyvalve
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EcruSkunksyou have every right to think that way. But why though? What do you disagree on?


He disagrees because he is the embodiment of the type of person you described but is in denial about it.
Mar 18 2017 9:12AM
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Lonely
Posts: 6596 - Karma: 59,618
The Ns and freeskiing scene is pretty toxic. Everyone is loud, opinionated, and elitist. But I think that's kindve a good thing. The community never really gets stale, and the hate or strife works as a great motivator. You're never gonna get better when you suck and everyone tells you you're amazing.
Mar 18 2017 9:34AM
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theabortionator
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There are a lot of douchers, there are a lot of down to earth people. Its a big community.

As far as this site it just depends. Some people are helpful and respectful, some people are 12 and think theyre funny.


Dont read too much into the intrawebz.
Mar 18 2017 1:17PM
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DominatorJacques
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EcruSkunksHi everyone! Just a bit of my background for a full picture. (im from UKraine, living in New Jersey, sorry in advance if some words are not properly placed, English is my second language)
i have started skiing "new school" in parks and everything relatively recent, 3 seasons ago. Im a poor dude, so going skiing 4-5 times a season is a great success for me. I have some old salomon boots from 2006, cheap atomic park skies from 2013, 30$ ski pants from Modells and oversized poles that dont have straps. Why i got into it, is because i skate inline, with aggressive skates (some dinosaurs like me may know what that is) thats why grinding on rails and boxes was not that much of a hard transition for me, i really like it, its very fun, different. And with my rollerblading background, park etiquette is a no brainer for me, therefore i always obey it.
Now going to the point. I never got into the whole industry part of it, with the clothes, the hate for "jerrys", even comments on a little clip i put out on IG of me a year ago, doing some grinds and stuff got hate, that i suck, something that you would never see in a rollerblading community, when we always encourage and show love to begginers. Of course, there are possitive coments, but the comments in many topics here put a first impression as if its a very none welcoming community. It looks as if the people must already have to be born with killing triple kink rails, wear on top notch expensive equipment and so on. Like i said, i didnt bother to care about it all, before i started reading more on here. I just hope people would be more accepting and more chill and friendly with others and be more humble. Please dont try to get me wrong, i love this sport and there are many great people, just remember that we all started from some point


Don't let the haters beat you back.
"just remember that we all started from some point"


You got that right! ^
Sure there are some up in here that are less than cool folks, but there are many that are cool that do encourage beginners etc.
You take care over there and don't stop posting some of your ski or skate videos.
Your going to find Trolls everywhere online. Do your best to ignore them.
Mar 18 2017 8:56PM
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DominatorJacques
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EcruSkunks!!!Thats exactly the attitude I was tying to come off as ! Glad you understand what i meant, i dont care being hated on or coming out as corny, that was not my point to gain support, all i was asking is more positivity towards the new dudes, more support and understanding that they may not have the proper park etiquette at first, its all a process. My only message is to spread possitivity cause we are all family and should support each other:)


^Right on in response to Bishop

LonelyThe Ns and freeskiing scene is pretty toxic. Everyone is loud, opinionated, and elitist. But I think that's kindve a good thing. The community never really gets stale, and the hate or strife works as a great motivator. You're never gonna get better when you suck and everyone tells you you're amazing.


^ That's good, but it's not always about "getting better". It's about having fun and sharing that fun no matter how bitchin' one is.

I check one of his videos and I assume it's him and he is having fun and doing it pretty well for a guy that claims to ski 5 or so times a season!
Here: https://www.instagram.com/p/zCAnc2AGy5/?taken-by=orestgumpp
Mar 18 2017 9:30PM
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HAMNATION
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as long as ur stoked im stoked for ya bud..... I ride the lift with vacation skiers all the time and we always have a nice chat it really is about time for people to just be good to eachother
Mar 18 2017 9:41PM
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SetteePrig
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I think that there are a ton more awesome, kind, and caring people on NS but all the ego gets most of the attention. From what I've seen on NS there is a lot of positive stuff, but there always is that one negative person that gets all the attention. KEEP the stoke up cz that is what skiing is all about HAVING A BLAST.
Best of luck dude!!!
Mar 18 2017 10:09PM
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danbrown
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is there any gear you need? i have a lot of shit that doesnt get much use. depending on what you need, ill send it to you for only the cost of shipping
Mar 18 2017 10:16PM
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EcruSkunks
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DominatorJacques^Right on in response to Bishop



^ That's good, but it's not always about "getting better". It's about having fun and sharing that fun no matter how bitchin' one is.

I check one of his videos and I assume it's him and he is having fun and doing it pretty well for a guy that claims to ski 5 or so times a season!
Here: https://www.instagram.com/p/zCAnc2AGy5/?taken-by=orestgumpp



i sign under each of your words:)!
Ah thanks for the watch! That was two years ago at Camelback mtn, where im actually going to tomorrow, that was just my no more than 2nd or third time hitting the terrain park, appreciate it man!!
Mar 18 2017 10:43PM
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Frozinballz
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swordsandpensHe disagrees because he is the embodiment of the type of person you described but is in denial about it.


Hahha nah not at all. I took it he was saying that about ski communities not ns community. Because I don't see that at all most people are chill and theres not really any hate for jerrys, they just make themselves more noticeable. I did that plenty times this season.

And i think he is overthinking it. Just be yourself and don't give a shit what others say, have confidence and go ski. Shred some pow duude, your skiing lifes good.

I have as much respect for someone eating shit trying 180s then someone landing a 540 cause they know saturdays are for the boys and they're gettin with it.
Mar 18 2017 11:02PM
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EcruSkunks
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danbrownis there any gear you need? i have a lot of shit that doesnt get much use. depending on what you need, ill send it to you for only the cost of shipping


Maaaan.. extremely nice of you. Wow. Really shows the type character. Its ok, im saving up little by little, the season ends fast on the east lol, i got plenty of months to save up:)
Mar 18 2017 11:04PM
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RRhighrider
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Some people enjoy tearing other people down. I have had some friends who only ride once a year visit me recently. It was amazing pushing them to do new things and see how stoked they got. I think the people riding the chairlift for the first time are often having a better day than an expert skier. Skiing is the most fun activity to me and spreading the stoke is something I have always loved.
Mar 19 2017 10:00AM
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Lonely
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DominatorJacques^Right on in response to Bishop



^ That's good, but it's not always about "getting better". It's about having fun and sharing that fun no matter how bitchin' one is.

I check one of his videos and I assume it's him and he is having fun and doing it pretty well for a guy that claims to ski 5 or so times a season!
Here: https://www.instagram.com/p/zCAnc2AGy5/?taken-by=orestgumpp


It definetly is about having fun. I'm not saying it needs to be competive, I'm just saying that it's not all gonna be cupcakes and rainbows and that's not necessarily a bad thing.
Mar 19 2017 11:12AM
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FrenchFry
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Skiing has a lot of rich kids who don't know anything about working for a set up.
I guess the instragam comments somehow make them feel better about themselves. Sorry you had to deal with this fam. Honestly when I started park skiing(2009) I didn't have this problem at all. Maybe social media is having a negative influence on the kids towards this sport. Just my point of view I guess.
Mar 19 2017 3:49PM
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E-fry
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Just go skiing and do you man, fuck what anybody thinks
Mar 20 2017 1:25AM
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swisssteeze
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EcruSkunksHi everyone! Just a bit of my background for a full picture. (im from UKraine, living in New Jersey, sorry in advance if some words are not properly placed, English is my second language)
i have started skiing "new school" in parks and everything relatively recent, 3 seasons ago. Im a poor dude, so going skiing 4-5 times a season is a great success for me. I have some old salomon boots from 2006, cheap atomic park skies from 2013, 30$ ski pants from Modells and oversized poles that dont have straps. Why i got into it, is because i skate inline, with aggressive skates (some dinosaurs like me may know what that is) thats why grinding on rails and boxes was not that much of a hard transition for me, i really like it, its very fun, different. And with my rollerblading background, park etiquette is a no brainer for me, therefore i always obey it.
Now going to the point. I never got into the whole industry part of it, with the clothes, the hate for "jerrys", even comments on a little clip i put out on IG of me a year ago, doing some grinds and stuff got hate, that i suck, something that you would never see in a rollerblading community, when we always encourage and show love to begginers. Of course, there are possitive coments, but the comments in many topics here put a first impression as if its a very none welcoming community. It looks as if the people must already have to be born with killing triple kink rails, wear on top notch expensive equipment and so on. Like i said, i didnt bother to care about it all, before i started reading more on here. I just hope people would be more accepting and more chill and friendly with others and be more humble. Please dont try to get me wrong, i love this sport and there are many great people, just remember that we all started from some point


I feel you dude. I got into skiing park about 2 years ago... and I aswell get a lot of nasty comments in the park. But if only one guy of the 10 parkrats standing there is surprised i'm happy. I must say though, not all the people in the park are like this. Just start talking to them and ask them if they have any tipps for you.
Mar 20 2017 3:36AM
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ScottishDaftie
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I started to ski park and freestyle skiing about 2011-2012 after being a race skier from about age 7. I switched to freestyle because all the people in the park were so nice and chill and friendly. I'm from Scotland and it still feels like this over here everyone's friends just helping each other! It sucks some freestyle skiers are assholes now I was only born in 1999 but lets go back to the roots and everyone just be chill haha!
Mar 20 2017 6:22AM
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SPK_
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I guess this "hate" you get to compare between skiing and blading community, comes from the gapers. Park skiers make everything they can to dissociate themselves from gapers, since they are seen as a nuisance. And even if these gapers are really trying to get into park skiing, they're most often seen as tourists that you will never see again, and that will never really be into freeskiing anyway (despite that everyone basically started like that).
Whereas on skates, even if there are little kids on the park, you know that if they love it, they are probably going to continue and actually get into it, as it is easier to go to a skatepark than the slopes. They may also be seen as a nuisance, but you can really have that hope that they will be into it later. And also the fact that blading is a very, very small community definitely helps. Due to it being this small, it will be hard to find skaters as good as you, or better than you at some point, so you can't really have that elitist mindset (as in: "I only hang with the best out there."). I guess this was the case at the early days of freeskiing as well or how it still is on some smaller hills. But it's just how things are, like teenagers wanting to have their own identity, but with some wrong behaviour involved.
That's just my 2cts on the subject, but of course there are other aspects to it.
Mar 20 2017 12:42PM
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weedoo
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Sorry you have had these experiances, keep in mind most of the unnecessarily negative comments on ns are trolls that just want to start a buzz in the thread but keep doing your thing man! We all were beginners at some point!
Mar 20 2017 1:11PM
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weedoo
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Sorry you have had these experiances, keep in mind most of the unnecessarily negative comments on ns are trolls that just want to start a buzz in the thread but keep doing your thing man! We all were beginners at some point!
Mar 20 2017 1:11PM
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