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I'm 18 and considering buying a 4th generation mustang. I saved about 5k so far for it. The 1999-2004 model is fuckin sick and so are the 94-98 but I feel like thats so old and it'll have a load of problems and I plan on whipping the shit out of the mustang. The 4.6l v8 has about 70 more horsepower than the 3.8l v6 but it gets about 15 mpg whereas the v6 gets around 21. I'd get a stick just cuz they're more fun and the transmission lasts a little longer. Has anyone ever owned a 4th gen mustang and what are some pros and cons? I'd like to hear what you guys think
The whole point of owning a Mustang is "Rollin' in my 5.0" . Since you are only 18 you can use that as your excuse. Really though you need to get the 5.0 or shop for a different car.
spacecaptain4those are arguably the worst year of the mustangs, other than the mid to late 70's
The leader of cheap garbage in a car with a long history of being cheap garbage. I can't believe what the youth thinks is cool sometimes, my boss has a v6 mustang of that era it's like literally the stupidest car ever made. A 5k pound two seater that isn't fast, gets shitty mileage and horrible build quality. Kickass!
Any mustang is gonna suck for skiing but if you want it go all or nothing. Don't get a v6, especially if you're already sacrificing driving in snow and bad rain. My friend has an 07' v6 and it's really no fun anyway. And if you're worried about the gas mileage, you really don't buy a mustang for practicality. There are more fun cars than v6 mustangs for the same price with better gas mileage that are far more practical.
get a 98 or 99 Z28 wif a 6 speed and t tops den you got yourself a sweet burnout ride for less then 5 g's and the LS1 totally will walk that 4.6 garbage
hippy.killer1999-2004 model is fuckin sick and so are the 94-98 but I feel like thats so old and it'll have a load of problems and I plan on whipping the shit out of the mustang.
You say that like new mustangs don't have a lot of problems.
Personally, I drive an old 98 accord I got from some random guy on the street for 300 bucks, got it working for another 400 or so, which is nice as hell because I don't have worry about it getting scratched and all that.
Front wheel drive has done me good especially when you have a good set of snow tires. roads around mountains are "generally" either packed down or plowed so once I get the car moving it works fine. The only issue is getting out of parking spots but it isn't that awful.
but of course the times you get stuck or lose control on the road is rarely a "general" circumstance.
Mustangs are rear wheel drive, which isn't the end of the world. It just means most the weight is in the front of the where the engine is. The drive wheels are in the back so you have less weight pushing the tires down. Because of this I often see the back tires spinning and digging holes in the parking lot. If your wheels start doing this while you are driving you have the chance to start fishtailing, where your back wheels swerve left and right (like a fish). However, when you are going uphill the weight shifts to the back and then the rear wheel drive is actually more helpful than.
Additionally, newer rear wheel drive cars have some pretty damn good stability control technology in them and wont fishtail even if you try. with the newest generation of rear wheel drive cars these systems are mandatory, but some older models came with it. I don't know if the 4th gen mustangs have it but If you plan on taking it up skiing I would check that it has stability control. And by god get snow tires, studded or non-studded they both change how the car drives in snow, it’s like night and day.
The 4th gen itself I personally don't love, but all the people I have met that have them love them. and no matter what you still get to say you drive a mustang haha! Many people give them shit for only having a V6, however in theory they can use the power more efficiently. the v6 is much lighter than the bulking V8. that being said, make sure it is really something you want, because the market for those mustangs is very specific, and many people don't care for them at all.
If you want a fun first car that you can whip the shit out of then get a bugeye STi. Your repair costs won't be the lowest but It'll probably be cheaper then the mustang in the long run. I also highly recommend something like an SUV, although that's just my preference, cuz offroad stuff. But I'm not gonna tell you how to spend your money.
Also, for the love of god buy snow tires, especially if you get something RWD.
theabortionatorMy advice is get something practical.
Nobody really cares what anyone drives after high school.
Buy something that gets decent gas mileage, is good in the snow, in good shape, and maybe cheaper than what you're looking at.
Unless you have a bunch of money I'm sure there are other things you could spend it on. Also if you need to fix anything.
Early 2000s subaru foresters are pretty solid ski cars. There are a lot of different options. I would just focus on something practical.
Nobody at the ski hill is going to go "Omg omg a mustang that's so sick!".
If you really love the car then do whatever, but it just doesn't seem practical.
It's true, unless you are rocking a lambo or something no one even notices your car. I see mom's lined up at the mall in Q7s, 5 series beamers, Cayennes, Tesla's... meh, 80 G's on a car, yawn. you have to try so hard to have a car that stands out these days it's just a waste of money to even try.
RousedWitsI mean you aint buying the car for other people, so if you get super stoked every time you see your own mustang... All the power to it!
I mean, a lot of people do, at least to some extent. For a lot of people, cars are some sort of status symbol. They may buy a car that's out of their league because it somehow represents the person they want to be.
Also if you're driving to the mountain on a pow day, there are better cars you could be driving. I remember my friend impulse bought a camaro a few years ago. I told him it probably wasn't a great idea but he wanted it. We live in the mountains. Nothing absurdly huge, but enough. Lots of snow and winding roads with big hills.
A couple of times he couldn't even make it home because it handled so shitty in the snow. He clearly wanted the car, I think he had always liked them, but it wasn't at all practical and he ended up selling it.
theabortionatorMy advice is get something practical.
Nobody really cares what anyone drives after high school.
Buy something that gets decent gas mileage, is good in the snow, in good shape, and maybe cheaper than what you're looking at.
Unless you have a bunch of money I'm sure there are other things you could spend it on. Also if you need to fix anything.
Early 2000s subaru foresters are pretty solid ski cars. There are a lot of different options. I would just focus on something practical.
Nobody at the ski hill is going to go "Omg omg a mustang that's so sick!".
If you really love the car then do whatever, but it just doesn't seem practical.
I agree to an extent, but for a lot of people it's not about who else cares about their car, it's all about their enjoyment when they hop behind the wheel because after all, they're the ones who actually drive it
Early 2000s foresters like you mention are great, but a forester xt is a great option in that the "flashiness" isn't for other people's eyes, it's still a lesbaru that happens to have a really damn good driving experience if you get a manual, and still have Awd/trunk space to do shit. I still get a huge smile on my face every time I rip through the gears onto a highway on ramp, so for some people that difference could be worth it over a 2.5i Subaru.
For OP his balance of fun/practicality tips to far in the fact that it's sketchy to have a rwd car in the snow, and can be a hazard for other drivers. A skiers car should at the very least be able to drive through snow safely
SounderIf you want a fun first car that you can whip the shit out of then get a bugeye STi. Your repair costs won't be the lowest but It'll probably be cheaper then the mustang in the long run
unless you're in Japan then a bugeye only comes in a WRX, STis started with blobeyes which were 04' in the US, and sedan only, not a great ski car. Also a '04-'07 wrx or '04-'08 forester xt would be a better option as far as repair costs go. '02-'03 WRXs have horribly delicate transmissions that are bound to blow if you have any sort of fun with it
ski.the.eastI agree to an extent, but for a lot of people it's not about who else cares about their car, it's all about their enjoyment when they hop behind the wheel because after all, they're the ones who actually drive it
Early 2000s foresters like you mention are great, but a forester xt is a great option in that the "flashiness" isn't for other people's eyes, it's still a lesbaru that happens to have a really damn good driving experience if you get a manual, and still have Awd/trunk space to do shit. I still get a huge smile on my face every time I rip through the gears onto a highway on ramp, so for some people that difference could be worth it over a 2.5i Subaru.
For OP his balance of fun/practicality tips to far in the fact that it's sketchy to have a rwd car in the snow, and can be a hazard for other drivers. A skiers car should at the very least be able to drive through snow safely
To me the whole lesbaru thing really only exists in the cities. In the real world they're a pretty practical car. My lesbian aunt actually just traded in her rav 4 for an outback but whatever.
I hated the old out back style and loved the old foresters. I hate the new foresters and love the outbacks. Probably will make the switch on my next upgrade. Going to try to run my 06 to a few hundred k first though.
theabortionatorTo me the whole lesbaru thing really only exists in the cities. In the real world they're a pretty practical car. My lesbian aunt actually just traded in her rav 4 for an outback but whatever.
I hated the old out back style and loved the old foresters. I hate the new foresters and love the outbacks. Probably will make the switch on my next upgrade. Going to try to run my 06 to a few hundred k first though.
oh I agree I moreso meant it in terms of its not flashy on the outside like some would argue a mustang is, it's a forester body with a good scoop that most people don't even notice, hence the lesbaru. I absolutely hate the new foresters they ruined their XTs by not offering any with a 5 speed '09 and later. Plus the newest ones don't even have a scoop :(
No but really, get the V8. It's worth the extra gas. Gas is cheap right now. The 4.6 is such a common engine..just do it man. Don't get an older 5.0 unless you can work on cars.
