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Is Weed actually bad?

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AgitatedHiatus
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I have smoked a bit before and I just currently got into college and have picked it up more often, probably like once or twice a week if I don't have a lot of homework or any big exams. My main question is, is it bad? For me, it allows me to think about some problems more clearly than when I'm sober if I don't have a solution for them.
Nov 1 2016 3:01PM
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theabortionator
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If marijuana wasn't bad, my son would still be here. Think about that
Nov 6 2016 10:44PM
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_69
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.frenchyit's a gift from god


I'm sure ur di and admissions would have loved to hear that
Nov 6 2016 10:46PM
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.frenchy
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Dennis_ReynoIdsI'm sure ur di and admissions would have loved to hear that


you don't know what you're talking about :/
Nov 7 2016 3:17AM
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KEVTRON
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theabortionatorIf marijuana wasn't bad, my son would still be here. Think about that


I'm back. I have risen from the dead. Weed made me a Cop. I will make sure to it that all your ip's are backtraced and you will all be arrested. Drugs are bad especially marijuanna mmmkay
Nov 7 2016 3:28AM
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_69
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.frenchyyou don't know what you're talking about :/


that's a fair point, but just because i dont know anything about it doesnt exclude me from being an expert

i think
Nov 7 2016 9:02AM
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.frenchy
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Dennis_ReynoIdsthat's a fair point, but just because i dont know anything about it doesnt exclude me from being an expert

i think


wym admissions and di?
Nov 7 2016 9:05AM
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milk_man
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It doesn't matter what the smoke is from--if you're breathing smoke directly into your lungs it is not good for your health.
Nov 7 2016 9:51AM
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Hugh_Conway_jr
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Gods_FatherK but the study says it doesn't cause lung cancer so that's not one of the side effects haha.


as you come to understand the world of research more, you will learn to not rely solely on the merits of a single paper.
Nov 7 2016 10:48AM
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milk_man
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I read an article on ABC news I believe that said people shouldn't be so confident that smoking marijuana isn't bad for you because it is still very unclear what it does to you in the long run
Nov 7 2016 12:01PM
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Gods_Father
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Hugh_Conway_jras you come to understand the world of research more, you will learn to not rely solely on the merits of a single paper.


After researching, have you found any people who got lung cancer from smoking cannabis?
Nov 7 2016 2:20PM
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californiagrown
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Gods_I FatherAfter researching, have you found any people who got lung cancer from smoking cannabis?


After researching, have you found any large scale, controlled studies showing weed smoke does not cause cancer as every other smoke does?
Nov 7 2016 2:46PM
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Hugh_Conway_jr
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californiagrownAfter researching, have you found any large scale, controlled studies showing weed smoke does not cause cancer as every other smoke does?


No. I don't beleive there any that actually exist.

Its impossible to draw conclusions related to the long term health effects of cannabis form the available body of literature. the vast majority of the studies have major flaws inherent in their design.

I would be as suspicious of a paper that would be so bold as to conclude that cannabis is unable to cause cancer.

Remember, there are papers out there that say cigarette smoke is safe. Thalidomide is safe. Oxycontin is safe. Vioxx is safe. All these have eventually been disproven. It takes a while for the literature body to grow to support a conclusion one way or another, and due to the lack of funding and lack of rigour in cannabis related studies, I put very little weight behind them.

If we simply focus on the patho (without a direct focus on cannabis), there is enough scientific evidence to tell uis that Products of incomplete combustion --> Un-burnt hydrocarbons --> free radicals---> disease process.
Nov 7 2016 3:06PM
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californiagrown
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Hugh_Conway_jrNo. I don't beleive there any that actually exist.

Its impossible to draw conclusions related to the long term health effects of cannabis form the available body of literature. the vast majority of the studies have major flaws inherent in their design.

I would be as suspicious of a paper that would be so bold as to conclude that cannabis is unable to cause cancer.

Remember, there are papers out there that say cigarette smoke is safe. Thalidomide is safe. Oxycontin is safe. Vioxx is safe. All these have eventually been disproven. It takes a while for the literature body to grow to support a conclusion one way or another, and due to the lack of funding and lack of rigour in cannabis related studies, I put very little weight behind them.

If we simply focus on the patho (without a direct focus on cannabis), there is enough scientific evidence to tell uis that Products of incomplete combustion --> Un-burnt hydrocarbons --> free radicals---> disease process.


Yup. It's dangerous to widely promote something as entirely safe without any large scale controlled studies having been done.

Hell, even NORML admits this haha.
Nov 7 2016 3:10PM
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boozer
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I don't think pot smokers are inherently lazy. I just think that when you have to decide between studying and eating nachos/play Call of Duty. That decision making process tends to lean toward the latter when you're baked
Nov 7 2016 4:25PM
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Gods_Father
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Hugh_Conway_jrNo. I don't beleive there any that actually exist.

Its impossible to draw conclusions related to the long term health effects of cannabis form the available body of literature. the vast majority of the studies have major flaws inherent in their design.

I would be as suspicious of a paper that would be so bold as to conclude that cannabis is unable to cause cancer.

Remember, there are papers out there that say cigarette smoke is safe. Thalidomide is safe. Oxycontin is safe. Vioxx is safe. All these have eventually been disproven. It takes a while for the literature body to grow to support a conclusion one way or another, and due to the lack of funding and lack of rigour in cannabis related studies, I put very little weight behind them.

If we simply focus on the patho (without a direct focus on cannabis), there is enough scientific evidence to tell uis that Products of incomplete combustion --> Un-burnt hydrocarbons --> free radicals---> disease process.


Agreed, every decade things we thought were fact are proven to be completely wrong....buttttt I just can't believe that smoking cannabis causes lung cancer, wiz Khalifa and snoop would be dead. I would argue that chemicals that have been sprayed on the cannabis could cause cancer though.
Nov 7 2016 4:41PM
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californiagrown
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Gods_FatherAgreed, every decade things we thought were fact are proven to be completely wrong....buttttt I just can't believe that smoking cannabis causes lung cancer, wiz Khalifa and snoop would be dead. I would argue that chemicals that have been sprayed on the cannabis could cause cancer though.


And a classic Midwestern diet with plenty of alcohol is good for your health otherwise my 95 year old grandpa would be dead.
Nov 7 2016 5:25PM
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Hugh_Conway_jr
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Gods_FatherAgreed, every decade things we thought were fact are proven to be completely wrong....buttttt I just can't believe that smoking cannabis causes lung cancer, wiz Khalifa and snoop would be dead. I would argue that chemicals that have been sprayed on the cannabis could cause cancer though.


The thing that likely reduces the cases of lung disease directly related to cannabis is the limited exposure users have, in comparison to cigarette smokes or occupational exposures.

Granted, usage patterns will vary widely, but most people just dont exposed to the same volume of un burnt hydrocarbons.
Nov 7 2016 6:16PM
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Hugh_Conway_jr
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Lé.SkiingSearch for "Cannabis kill cancer cells".

Link: https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/treatment/cam/patient/cannabis-pdq

There's your reputable source to anyone saying cannabis can still cause cancer.


If you smoke cannabis you're less likely to get cancer than someone who doesn't smoke. Which I get is fucked and doesn't seem like it makes sense, but it's just facts...

Personally I would prefer vaping or dab pen, but apparently the best thing is to eat the raw untreated plant.


I you are drastically miss interpreting the statement for the national cancer institute that "Cannabis has been shown to kill cancer cells in the laboratory".

this is a laboratory test, that involves placing active components of cannabis into, on or beside cancer cells.... they are not simulating smoking, or the impact in the lung environment. the components they are exposing to cancer cells are not combusted.

This has no direct correlation or relevance to a discussion about smoking (or even vaping or ingesting) weed.
Nov 7 2016 6:24PM
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