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But Jesus H. Fuck, Iran invading Iraq? They would bring the hellfire of every Sunni country down on them. That involves Saudi Arabia, Syria, Jordan, etc.
BrawnTrendsI highly doubt it will change anything.
An employee from WikiLeaks said they're supposed to drop some heavy shit. Like people get tried for war crimes kinda shit. Supposedly the 30k deleted emails as well
But why tell everyone to wait until Nov 1? If they were really looking for the truth they would just drop it as soon as they have it. This sounds more like click bait type of bullshit propaganda than true whistle blower's work.
Snowden didn't "warn" the world that if was gonna drop some heavy shit. He just did it.
BrawnTrendsBut why tell everyone to wait until Nov 1? If they were really looking for the truth they would just drop it as soon as they have it. This sounds more like click bait type of bullshit propaganda than true whistle blower's work.
Snowden didn't "warn" the world that if was gonna drop some heavy shit. He just did it.
They're dropping it November 1st so the DNC doesn't have time to replace Clinton
Hahaha ok, such exceptional integrity and impartiality... What should it matter if the DNC replaces Clinton or not? I mean, if it wasn't clearly an attempt to have Trump to win, of course.
BrawnTrendsHahaha ok, such exceptional integrity and impartiality... What should it matter if the DNC replaces Clinton or not? I mean, if it wasn't clearly an attempt to have Trump to win, of course.
Its not an attempt to have Trump win. It's to ensure that Hillary loses.
coolflash8no.... did we watch the same debate? she called out that it is russian hackers trying to influence the election.
I believe that was her response to the emails. Also, you can't hack something that doesn't already exist. Regardless of who hacked it is irrelevant. Poor America. Poor us.
coolflash8no.... did we watch the same debate? she called out that it is russian hackers trying to influence the election.
I believe that was her response to the emails. Also, you can't hack something that doesn't already exist. Regardless of who hacked it is irrelevant. Poor America. Poor us.
BrawnTrendsWhich, in the end result, is exactly the same. Assange just has a personal grudge against Hillary. It's pretty pathetic.
Yeah dude it's so pathetic to expose corrupt politicians committing scandalous crimes bigger than watergate. Get your head out of your ass. You dumb fucking progressives get so pissed off at "The Russians" (who by the way have no part in the hackings), or you get pissed at Assange and cry "Wahhhh he stole the DNC's info". It amazes me that you're pissed at Assange for hacking and not at the DNC/Hillary for undermining democracy and committing felonies. You're the pathetic one you dumb motherfucker.
powderdrunkieI believe that was her response to the emails. Also, you can't hack something that doesn't already exist. Regardless of who hacked it is irrelevant. Poor America. Poor us.
No, it does matter who hacked it. It matters a hell of a whole lot, especially if it was a foreign group. No foreign group should ever attempt to influence our elections. Period. We obviously have a history of doing this, but two wrongs do not make a right.
.MASSHOLE.No, it does matter who hacked it. It matters a hell of a whole lot, especially if it was a foreign group. No foreign group should ever attempt to influence our elections. Period. We obviously have a history of doing this, but two wrongs do not make a right.
powderdrunkieK. well it was the NSA that hacked it sooo.....
"the truth is out there"
Right. Every other source has said it was Russian leanings, and some random NS poster says it's the NSA.
Not only is this meddling in our elections, but it has the potential to create a false narrative because of the fact that we don't know if these are all the emails nor will anyone confirm that to us.
If you're trolling, my meter is broken because there are too many idiots out there this political season.
Josh__PeckYeah dude it's so pathetic to expose corrupt politicians committing scandalous crimes bigger than watergate. Get your head out of your ass. You dumb fucking progressives get so pissed off at "The Russians" (who by the way have no part in the hackings), or you get pissed at Assange and cry "Wahhhh he stole the DNC's info". It amazes me that you're pissed at Assange for hacking and not at the DNC/Hillary for undermining democracy and committing felonies. You're the pathetic one you dumb motherfucker.
So what "crimes bigger than watergate" are you talking about? Or do you also believe everything you read and hear from your own favorite sources? The Podesta emails that were released say nothing about any criminal activity, they only really back up the fact that she took mucho dinero from Goldman-Sachs just before running. Or are you talking about the criminally delicious creamy risotto recipe?
coolflash8at least we CAN buy guns unlike Australia
actually I know a few people who own guns in Australia. My uncle being one of them. But we don't just give them to every willy nilly terrorist who asks for one.
S.J.Wactually I know a few people who own guns in Australia. My uncle being one of them. But we don't just give them to every willy nilly terrorist who asks for one.
Yeah i bet he owns some sick 10 round hunting rifles, and double barrel shotguns
No, as long as their American.
Big difference. Fucking liberals spin it and get offensive and butthurt, its ridiculous. It's called having a country. The biggest racial issue we have right now is the one people make up, like what you are doing right now. Black lives matter for example has created a bigger divide than helping anything. So much violence. Go watch Lil Waynes most recent interview. People are wild
Watched back to back episodes of Steven Raichlen's Project Smoke last night. Makes my mouth water just thinking about it. The networks should get together and play that goodness on every channel simultaneously.
coolflash8Yeah i bet he owns some sick 10 round hunting rifles, and double barrel shotguns
I find it hilarious how Americans use owning guns as something to be proud of. Like you guys can't own guns, so you're country sucks. News flash, no one gives a fuck about guns apart from the US. It's not something to be proud of.
S.J.WI find it hilarious how Americans use owning guns as something to be proud of. Like you guys can't own guns, so you're country sucks. News flash, no one gives a fuck about guns apart from the US. It's not something to be proud of.
S.J.WI find it hilarious how Americans use owning guns as something to be proud of. Like you guys can't own guns, so you're country sucks. News flash, no one gives a fuck about guns apart from the US. It's not something to be proud of.
I find it hilarious that liberals/progressives/democrats are literally the only political ideology in favor of gun control. Even facists and marxists are opposed to it.
Josh__PeckI find it hilarious that liberals/progressives/democrats are literally the only political ideology in favor of gun control. Even facists and marxists are opposed to it.
might find it interesting that in Australia it was actually the right wing major political party who introduced a bill to ban/buy back guns in the late 90's after the Port Arthur massacre. So how's that "literally only political ideology". John Howard, one of the most right wing prime minister's Australia has ever had.
S.J.Wmight find it interesting that in Australia it was actually the right wing major political party who introduced a bill to ban/buy back guns in the late 90's after the Port Arthur massacre. So how's that "literally only political ideology". John Howard, one of the most right wing prime minister's Australia has ever had.
S.J.WI find it hilarious how Americans use owning guns as something to be proud of. Like you guys can't own guns, so you're country sucks. News flash, no one gives a fuck about guns apart from the US. It's not something to be proud of.
Josh__PeckLiberalism is a right wing ideology dumbfuck.
Well that couldn't be further from the truth. The origins of liberalism, like freedom of speech, religion, equality before the law can be dated back to 17th century and to the birth of the Commonwealth. Now what you're doing is confusing social liberalism with economic liberalism. Social liberalism advocates for individual freedoms and equality. In that sense it's fairly centrist as one can make a case that left wing is liberal, or that right wing is liberal, depending on which issues you choose to look at. (I.E, abortion, guns, marriage equality).
Economic liberalism, is a much newer concept. Economic liberalism advocates for free trade, and laissez faire style government. And yes, you're right, economic liberalism was indeed a right wing concept in the early 18th century. One only has to look at Lincoln and the republican party of the civil war. But what are you forgetting is that around 1870 the republican party stopped trying to look after the blacks. Fast forward to the civil rights acts around mid 60's, republicans started opposing the civil rights acts on grounds of their traditional laissez faire style of government. And this is when blacks started switching to democrats. Other issues like abortion and school pray also played a role in staunch white democrats switching to the republicans. And this is where you see the current republican party came from.
Enter Donald Trump. Trump is introducing a new style of government, which is directly contradicting both his party's views and economic liberalism. And if you listen to Trump talk, it's very clear that he wants protectionist policy. This is a complete opposite to what economic liberalism is about.
So I'm glad I just schooled your arse on liberalism, to say that liberalism is either right wing or left wing is incredibly incorrect. What you have now is parties, and candidates nit picking what parts of liberalism they wish to use. The way
S.J.WWell that couldn't be further from the truth. The origins of liberalism, like freedom of speech, religion, equality before the law can be dated back to 17th century and to the birth of the Commonwealth. Now what you're doing is confusing social liberalism with economic liberalism. Social liberalism advocates for individual freedoms and equality. In that sense it's fairly centrist as one can make a case that left wing is liberal, or that right wing is liberal, depending on which issues you choose to look at. (I.E, abortion, guns, marriage equality).
Economic liberalism, is a much newer concept. Economic liberalism advocates for free trade, and laissez faire style government. And yes, you're right, economic liberalism was indeed a right wing concept in the early 18th century. One only has to look at Lincoln and the republican party of the civil war. But what are you forgetting is that around 1870 the republican party stopped trying to look after the blacks. Fast forward to the civil rights acts around mid 60's, republicans started opposing the civil rights acts on grounds of their traditional laissez faire style of government. And this is when blacks started switching to democrats. Other issues like abortion and school pray also played a role in staunch white democrats switching to the republicans. And this is where you see the current republican party came from.
Enter Donald Trump. Trump is introducing a new style of government, which is directly contradicting both his party's views and economic liberalism. And if you listen to Trump talk, it's very clear that he wants protectionist policy. This is a complete opposite to what economic liberalism is about.
So I'm glad I just schooled your arse on liberalism, to say that liberalism is either right wing or left wing is incredibly incorrect. What you have now is parties, and candidates nit picking what parts of liberalism they wish to use. The way
Private property and (mostly) free market capitalism are found in the modern liberal idealogy. I don't think we are arguing the same kind of liberalism. Social liberalism has nothing to do with left or right wing principles, and everything to do with statist/anti-statist principles. Economic liberalism (aka classic liberalism) is a right wing ideology.
brotoFrom this thread we can conclude that josh_peck is a dumbass
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