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CHORIZOBridger is 15 and big sky is about 45
eheathAhh its more like 20 and 50-60, but ya pretty close.
Yung_JimmyKind of threadjacking a little bit here but does anyone know of some smaller schools that are close to good resorts and also have good football programs? Depending on what happens my Junior and Senior HS seasons I'll make a decision but any helpful insight would be appreciated
Brule.Plymouth State in NH is pretty nice. You're within a short drive from Loon, Waterville, and Cannon (even Tuckerman's), and they're pretty big on skiing. It's a good decision for a good east coast skier's school for half the cost for UVM if you're out of state.
XtRemE11WTF goes on in college? Do you actually learn? Not trying to be a dick but I swear I meet way more narrow minded complete morons with no common sense that are in or coming out of college, than anywhere else. Hopefully its just the schools around me but damn, its scary hearing what comes out of the average college kids mouth.
californiagrownI'd argue the opposite, in terms of world views, social views, tolerance of others, and the ability to get along with people from vastly different back grounds. But that's my experience.
What have you seen and heard?
XtRemE11In terms of accepting modern progressive ideas, I would say the average college kid is right up there. I guess the problem is that I don't think they know why they are accepting of it, from what I can tell they're taught an idea that they're supposed to agree with, and they accept it without actually critically thinking through it. The ideas they seem to be mindlessly accepting just happen to be modern, progressive, "tollerance" etc.
Though when I try to have a conversation with somebody about any of these ideas they cant go any deeper into it, its like they accept but don't think.
Ive got a perfect example from a couple days ago.. I tried having a conversation with a girl who called herself a feminist, every single time I brought up an idea that went against her thinking, she got offended, called me sexist, and froze up. Never offered anything to refute any of my points, just labeled them all as sexist. She had these basic points that women make less than men, are given less opportunity, are treated like sexual objects, etc.. but offered nothing past that, just stated that thats how it is and to critically think about it was sexist and offensive.
Thats a perfect summary of 90% of the students I try to talk to. The second you bring up anything that may question what they've been taught is accepting, tolerant, equality, whatever, you're a racist, sexist, something-ist. they dont know why, you just are. And its kind of ridiculous because that kind of thinking is exactly how TRUE racism, sexism, etc. forms. Their mind is going through the same process, same kind of thinking that a racist goes through to believe that another race ins inferior. Thats whats scary.
The actual smart students ive met seem to be the ones who are in school for something like engineering because they actually have to learn these things to pursue a career they're interested in. its the ones just going for a degree who seem to be absorbing and accepting these ideas and not actually learning anything valuable.
The mark of an educated mind is to entertain a thought without accepting it. Thats what seems to be lacking big time in college educated people.
XtRemE11WTF goes on in college?
californiagrownIdk, I've had the polar opposite experiences living in SF and now Seattle post college. Maybe, like a lot of times in life, the loud people eager to engage on a touchy subject in a social setting (politics, religon, etc) just have low self esteem and want to regurgitate arguments to feel superior? Idk.
One of the more underrated things about college is it will teach people how to write well. I was astounded how shitty 90% of my classmates were at writing in my first semester freshman English class. Like, it was fucking horrendous.
XtRemE11I've spent a but of time in Seattle and Portland and had the same experiences there. In terms of people having what would be considered accepting and forward thinking opinions on issues but not really knowing why they believe it. They're told they need to have that opinion, almost none of them come to the same conclusion by critically thinking about it from all angles.
I went to some "raise awareness for the struggles of a female in college" (dont remember what it was actually called) get together. because my girlfriend who's in college wanted me to go. the entire time I was thinking of arguments against what they were saying, only spoke out on a couple, but I was shamed or labeled something every time I tried to argue the other side. It was like they completely refused to analyze these "issues" these thoughts never occurred to them, and they refused to consider them. They were being told that as a female in college they were being treated unequal and being taken advantage of, and thats all they wanted to hear. Sure they believe in what a millennial in college would consider progressive and open minded thoughts. but i've never been around such close minded people. its insane.
anyway, rant over, I just think there's something very lacking in most colleges, it seems like kids are taught to accept ideas and not being taught to learn, analyze without emotion, and think for themselves. I see it where I work too, kids fresh out of college that have an extremely out of touch view of the real world and within maybe 6 months of being in that real world they finally start to figure it out, relax and realize all these things they're taught to think dont necessarily apply. some never figure it out.
JohnLockeAnybody else looking at schools in areas devoid of skiing? UChicago is near the top of my list and I've pretty much accepted that if I get in, I won't ski (save for breaks). Also looking at some schools in DC.... definitely won't have anyone to ski with on breaks there
JohnLockeAnybody else looking at schools in areas devoid of skiing? UChicago is near the top of my list and I've pretty much accepted that if I get in, I won't ski (save for breaks). Also looking at some schools in DC.... definitely won't have anyone to ski with on breaks there
mswizzle3Ive thought about it and even though there are some perfect schools in non skiing areas the thought of not being near the great outdoors for four years is just horrible like Id get depressed or something
mswizzle3Ive thought about it and even though there are some perfect schools in non skiing areas the thought of not being near the great outdoors for four years is just horrible like Id get depressed or something
californiagrownWait, you went to a feminism rally, tried to argue against it, and then felt as though you weren't taken seriously or respected?
Wow. So you're one of those people, huh?
More proof common sense ain't common I guess lol
XtRemE11I really didn't want to, went to make my girlfriend happy. I'm not at all a confrontational person. I tried so damn hard to resist speaking up more. It was a discussion style deal where everyone's involved, so I would have thought they'd be open to actual discussion.
Outside of a college setting I feel like I can have these kinds of discussions and actually get somewhere, nobody gets angry or offended, you just talk and bring up good points. But anything that didn't further feed their skewed views was seen as offensive and sexist.
Im not trying to piss anyone off or say college kids are incapable of thinking for themselves. Im just trying to figure out what it is in college campus's that seems to breed that kind of narrow mindedness.
Tater.TotsCurrently go to MSU, Bozeman is an amazing town. Everything you would want to do is super close to campus and town. The town has an amazing vibe all the time and the people are friendly. MSU also has a really good engineering program.
