Kartel 108 vs Billy goat

I would recommend the Kartel 108 over the BG to a very few select skiers for JH with the 98 as backup.

Truth is Jackson gets tracked like any other resort. BG charges through that sorta shit.

Yeah go BG for sure.

When they did the ski testing at Jackson Hole a year or 2 they were putting the 4frnt hoji (112 mm) in the all mountain category. So you'll definitely be wanting the BGs for when it's soft and tracked out and deep pow, then you can whip out the Kartel 98s for park, spring laps, and when they haven't seen snow in a little while.

Jackson gets tracked within two hours on a pow day, however it is still the best place ever. I lived there for two years, and plan to go back once I finish school. Get ready for moguls, they're everywhere.

Go with the Kartel 108, it will only be out of place on uber-deep days, but you can buy a pair of discounted super fatties for those days. (dynastar cham 127s are like $179 right now)

Honestly I would try to get the Jeffrey 114 if I were you, but it may be tough to find in your size. It will handle kind of like the kartel 108, however be wider for floatation. Its a great ski, I owned the 186 last season.

The billy goat would be an awesome pow day ski, and for the day or two after, but may be little much for an everyday ski. The jeffrey 114 or Kartel 108 will be much more playful, yet still be able to charge, and they're MUCH more versatile. I own the 191 BG, and its my favorite ski ever, but its definitely not an all mountain ski. It can be, but it sacrifices a lot compared to the jeffrey or kartel. Honestly, I would only recommend the BG as a Jackson daily driver to someone larger in size, who only skis off piste, and skis forward all the time. Its pretty playful for what it is, but still no match for the jeffrey or kartel on piste, in the park, or in bumps.

Totally forgot about this thread, almost time to make the purchase.

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Mostly jumps, moguls, and glades. My Midwest hill actually has some nice steeps and short chutes that have exposed me to some real terrain. I definitely don't straight line... im more of a slash turn skier (kind of like Candide when he's hauling ass and doing those little speed check carves). The billy goats don't strike me as fast carving ski, I may be wrong though.

An update to my previous response..

With the new RES design in the Billy Goat this year, you could get away with that, but its still heavier and mainly for 3D snow. There is plenty of 3D snow in jackson on a good year though, and it is supposed to be a la nina event this season. Billy Goat could be spot on if you get lucky, and on the other hand, it could be A LOT for an everyday ski if you dont get lucky. Its not really "turny" or "finessey" either, more pivoty. It prefers to charge hard, in a directional manner, but will break free easier, than anything else in the category. When I say break free, I mean continue down the fall line at normal pace, just sideways, like Shane Mcconkey style but through crud and chunder, not just powder. pretty cool ski

However, for your style of skiing I would go either Kartel 108 or Kartel 116. The best bet would be to find last years Jeffrey 114.