US Elections 2016 - Clinton, Trump, ????

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californiagrownSooooo she wasn't proved to have committed any crimes. You lied. Now you have no credibility in future arguments because you have already tried to pass off your opinion as fact.

If you actually want to be taken seriously, try telling the truth and stating your opinion... not stating your opinion as though it is truth.

How did I lie?

Jul 6 2016 5:25PM

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theBearJewHow did I lie?

Evidence of "potential violations" is not the same as saying Hilary Clinton broke the law. YOU said the report said she broke the law. That is false.

Ya know why the report is so damaging? Because it is a objective, factual account. If it had been an opinionated rebuking it would have sounded like someone with an agenda conducted it.

Stick to the truth. Don't be a propagandist.

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californiagrownEvidence of "potential violations" is not the same as saying Hilary Clinton broke the law. YOU said the report said she broke the law. That is false.

Ya know why the report is so damaging? Because it is a objective, factual account. If it had been an opinionated rebuking it would have sounded like someone with an agenda conducted it.

Stick to the truth. Don't be a propagandist.

Fair enough. My opinion is still that she broke the law, it was portrayed earlier as fact but that is my opinion.

If she didn't break the law she's a fucking moron who didn't understand how having a private email server could be a potential national security issue. Comey seemed to allude to the fact that Gmail would have been a better and more secure service to use. All opinion though.

And she did lie under oath. Saying that nothing was marked classified at the time.

"There was nothing marked classified on my e-mails, either sent or received." - Clinton at the Bengazi trial.

"Only a very small number of the e-mails containing classified information bore markings indicating the presence of classified information." - Comey

Small number still counts as being marked classified. Or was she not under oath that day at the trial? One would assume that she was, am I safe to assume that? Or should I call this my opinion also?

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theBearJewI understand that. Its just frustrating to hear him say everything she did and then recommend doing nothing because proving it is a longshot.

Do Hillary supporters feel like OJ Simpson fans did after he was acquitted? Knowing deep down hes guilty but celebrating anyway?

I can understand why it is frustrating for some to look at the situation and not understand why he didn't pursue it, especially considering other high profile cases that revolved around similar events (Gen. Petraeus for example) were pursued.

However, when looking at the evidence that we have in this case (which are FAR less than what the FBI has) versus what the other cases had, it is certainly understandable as to why he did not pursue it.

What is ironic is that this is America, and we often find public figures we dislike guilty without seeing any evidence. In the eyes of the American public, it is always guilty before proven innocent.

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I love when Hilary defended the rapist of a 12 year old and knew he was guilty. I also love how Hilary funnels weapons and helped to create a failed state in Libya. I also love this video of Hilary which shows how fucked we are for wanting to elect a psychopath. She wants to wipe Iran off the map and even concerts that maybe it would be good if the US was attacked and/or proviked but hopefully we won't get to that. However, her social policies meld with my belief system so I'll BE voting for her come the election.

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californiagrownEvidence of "potential violations" is not the same as saying Hilary Clinton broke the law. YOU said the report said she broke the law. That is false.

Ya know why the report is so damaging? Because it is a objective, factual account. If it had been an opinionated rebuking it would have sounded like someone with an agenda conducted it.

Stick to the truth. Don't be a propagandist.

Looks like she lied under oath now, meaning she definitely broke the law. See ya!

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BombogenesisLooks like she lied under oath now, meaning she definitely broke the law. See ya!

Yea but she probably didn't intend to lie so I'm sure she will get off.

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theBearJewYea but she probably didn't intend to lie so I'm sure she will get off.

Basically today we learned just how stupid Hillary is hahah

Jul 7 2016 5:48PM

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BombogenesisLooks like she lied under oath now, meaning she definitely broke the law. See ya!

theBearJewYea but she probably didn't intend to lie so I'm sure she will get off.

What did she willfully lie about?

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BombogenesisLooks like she lied under oath now, meaning she definitely broke the law. See ya!

Doubt that will happen, mens rea will be here defense, again.

It is incredible how incompetent every politician has been this election cycle.

Jul 7 2016 6:06PM

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californiagrownWhat did she willfully lie about?

See below. But you are probably trying to say that she lied unintentionally, without knowing she did.

Which means you're trying to argue that she didn't remember the e-mails were marked classified or didn't notice they were. Either way, as the Secretary of State, you should probably know and remember if e-mails are marked classified. But again, that's just my opinion.

theBearJewAnd she did lie under oath. Saying that nothing was marked classified at the time.

"There was nothing marked classified on my e-mails, either sent or received." - Clinton at the Bengazi trial.

"Only a very small number of the e-mails containing classified information bore markings indicating the presence of classified information." - Comey

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californiagrownWhat did she willfully lie about?

You're getting back into that gray area of intent. What these last couple of days have told us is that if you didn't mean to do something you shouldn't be held accountable.

She said under oath that... And I quote "There was nothing marked classified on my emails, either sent or received.” So she lied under oath as we found out today. 100% indisputably lied under oath.

The only defense here is that she TRULY did not think she sent classified emails.

It's a lose lose for her if you ask me. Either she knowingly lied under oath or she's an absolute fucking idiot. Pick your poison I guess?

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.MASSHOLE.Doubt that will happen, mens rea will be here defense, again.

It is incredible how incompetent every politician has been this election cycle.

"There was nothing marked classified on my emails, either sent or received.”

Again, under oath. Incompetence or willful deceit.

Jul 7 2016 6:24PM

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Also, UNDER OATH she said only one device was used to send information. We now know that's 100% untrue. Are you telling me the SoS, a position requiring relatively high intelligence didn't know she used more than one device? I know when I was porn on a different device for fucks sake.

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Bombogenesis"There was nothing marked classified on my emails, either sent or received.”

Again, under oath. Incompetence or willful deceit.

She will argue that she was unaware (aka incompetent)....Which isn't a crime. How many emails were actually marked as classified? Not many if my memory serves correctly.

She may look like a dotting idiot and absolute bomb being a candidate any other year, but thankfully she is going up against a man who is more concerned about a star and Frozen...

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.MASSHOLE.She will argue that she was unaware (aka incompetent)....Which isn't a crime. How many emails were actually marked as classified? Not many if my memory serves correctly.

She may look like a dotting idiot and absolute bomb being a candidate any other year, but thankfully she is going up against a man who is more concerned about a star and Frozen...

I think we can pretty much all agree that if the Republicans ran almost anybody else aside from a religious crazy person, it would've been an absolute run away this year. We would have 100% had a Republican president come next January.

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Bombogenesis"There was nothing marked classified on my emails, either sent or received.”

Again, under oath. Incompetence or willful deceit.

Eh, I get around 100 emails a day and i couldn't tell you how many were marked important. The SOS gets way more than that and a bunch would be marked classified... some could have easily slipped through the cracks and she glazed over the classified marking.

I have a secret clearance and both my parents have top secret clearances. From experience, and convos with them the vast, vast majority of classified material is really dumb, unimportant stuff. It's not as sexy as most people believe, so I can def see where a very busy individual dealing with very important crises didn't treat some staffers email address included in an email as a matter of national security. I'd be interested to know what was included in these emails...

BombogenesisAlso, UNDER OATH she said only one device was used to send information. We now know that's 100% untrue. Are you telling me the SoS, a position requiring relatively high intelligence didn't know she used more than one device? I know when I was porn on a different device for fucks sake.

Do you know what the transcript on this was? First I'm hearing of it.

Idk, if she answered "I'm not sure" she would seem incompetent...even though that is the truth likely, and no one could be sure about hundreds of thousands of emails over 4 years. Kinda a shitty situation to be in.

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californiagrownEh, I get around 100 emails a day and i couldn't tell you how many were marked important. The SOS gets way more than that and a bunch would be marked classified... some could have easily slipped through the cracks and she glazed over the classified marking.

I have a secret clearance and both my parents have top secret clearances. From experience, and convos with them the vast, vast majority of classified material is really dumb, unimportant stuff. It's not as sexy as most people believe, so I can def see where a very busy individual dealing with very important crises didn't treat some staffers email address included in an email as a matter of national security. I'd be interested to know what was included in these emails...

Do you know what the transcript on this was? First I'm hearing of it.

Idk, if she answered "I'm not sure" she would seem incompetent...even though that is the truth likely, and no one could be sure about hundreds of thousands of emails over 4 years. Kinda a shitty situation to be in.

It may be in here. I didn't read the whole thing yet... The multiple devices thing was from this mornings hearings. Allegedly Clinton said under oath that she used one device, and comey said this morning that that was not true.

http://time.com/3739541/transcript-hillary-clinton-email-press-conference/

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californiagrownEh, I get around 100 emails a day and i couldn't tell you how many were marked important. The SOS gets way more than that and a bunch would be marked classified... some could have easily slipped through the cracks and she glazed over the classified marking.

I have a secret clearance and both my parents have top secret clearances. From experience, and convos with them the vast, vast majority of classified material is really dumb, unimportant stuff. It's not as sexy as most people believe, so I can def see where a very busy individual dealing with very important crises didn't treat some staffers email address included in an email as a matter of national security. I'd be interested to know what was included in these emails...

Do you know what the transcript on this was? First I'm hearing of it.

Idk, if she answered "I'm not sure" she would seem incompetent...even though that is the truth likely, and no one could be sure about hundreds of thousands of emails over 4 years. Kinda a shitty situation to be in.

This is an easier read

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BombogenesisOh wow lol

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BombogenesisI think we can pretty much all agree that if the Republicans ran almost anybody else aside from a religious crazy person, it would've been an absolute run away this year. We would have 100% had a Republican president come next January.

Depends on which candidate. TBH every party had shitty candidates across the board this election cycle. Both parties are in MAJOR need of a refresher within their ranks.

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californiagrownEh, I get around 100 emails a day and i couldn't tell you how many were marked important. The SOS gets way more than that and a bunch would be marked classified... some could have easily slipped through the cracks and she glazed over the classified marking.

I have a secret clearance and both my parents have top secret clearances. From experience, and convos with them the vast, vast majority of classified material is really dumb, unimportant stuff. It's not as sexy as most people believe, so I can def see where a very busy individual dealing with very important crises didn't treat some staffers email address included in an email as a matter of national security. I'd be interested to know what was included in these emails...

Do you know what the transcript on this was? First I'm hearing of it.

Idk, if she answered "I'm not sure" she would seem incompetent...even though that is the truth likely, and no one could be sure about hundreds of thousands of emails over 4 years. Kinda a shitty situation to be in.

You only read classified material on an appropriately classified system. It's not like you just log into your account from any computer and try not to click on the classified items.

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cobra_commanderYou only read classified material on an appropriately classified system. It's not like you just log into your account from any computer and try not to click on the classified items.

She is the SOS, it wouldnt be that hard to have someone set up her private phone to receive calssified material. She isnt some random gal far down on the chain of command, who needs to have someone approve her request haha. Does raise the point of "how many people knew, and who are they?" though.

heres a conspiracy theory for you- maybe Hilary thought that someone inside the state department of another branch was spying on her official emails. To ward them off, she created a few unknown back channels. Maybethe was patriotically thwarting a domestic or foreign espionage attempt!!

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No, the only reason she did it is because logging into a secure server is a righteous pain in the ass. I hate doing it, everyone does. There likely nothing nefarious behind it. The issue is the Clintons don't think the pesky rules apply for them. That's for lowly people to follow.

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