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.MASSHOLE.
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Well, the season hasn't even ended for some lucky few out in CO and UT, but DPS has already teased us with a picture of a new pair of skis. Looks VERY different than what they normally produce.

[Link to hub of all Newschoolers Coverage of 2017-2018 Product]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BFj5-fEpxPx/?taken-by=dpsskis

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Armada Skis

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May 18 2016 4:11PM
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K-Dot.
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Hoping the chetler 100 is similar to the old atomic blog, looks like they're pretty flexible from keefer's ig
Jan 18 2018 11:15AM
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BrawnTrends
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JasperDeBauwPresentation of the van and the new promodel ski's of bent chetler
https://www.facebook.com/ATOMICSKIING/videos/1636886156349907/


Oh Megan...

Super interesting to see the new Chetlers! I'm drooling even more for the 100s now
Jan 18 2018 1:06PM
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powpatrol
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XgELa_65K2Q
Link to those head kore boots,will be interesting to see how the ‘graphene infused plastic’ actually is.
Jan 22 2018 1:31PM
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SEABURN
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BrawnTrendsOh Megan...

Super interesting to see the new Chetlers! I'm drooling even more for the 100s now


When did someone decide it was a good idea to make pow skis white? I blame pollard...
Jan 22 2018 5:28PM
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Pataguccimane
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I'm always such a bitch for Armada's graphics. These popped up in a thread a little while ago when someone ordered the Arv 96 off their rep and ended up getting a 2019 graphic. Definitely seems like an arv graphic after seeing next years 116's but I also heard that the B-dog was going to have a dog on the graphic. Either way I'm liking the graphic scheme Armada's got going for next year.


Jan 23 2018 2:57PM
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Rum_Ham
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https://www.instagram.com/p/Bd34r8nnu9d/?hl=en&taken-by=basin_sports

more armada graphics
Jan 23 2018 6:33PM
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.nasty
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Rum_Hamhttps://www.instagram.com/p/Bd34r8nnu9d/?hl=en&taken-by=basin_sports

more armada graphics


Well now that it’s been picturized I can spill the beans haha the 2nd picture is an ARV 116 with the same ultralight layup that the current JJ zero has.
Jan 23 2018 6:47PM
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Pataguccimane
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.nastyWell now that it’s been picturized I can spill the beans haha the 2nd picture is an ARV 116 with the same ultralight layup that the current JJ zero has.

Correct me if I’m wrong but that’s the zero collection version of the 116 right?
Jan 23 2018 7:26PM
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.nasty
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PataguccimaneCorrect me if I’m wrong but that’s the zero collection version of the 116 right?

Yes. The zero collection version will have the light core while there will also be the regular production version which will be the same arv 116 it is now.
Jan 23 2018 7:47PM
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.lencon
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PataguccimaneI'm always such a bitch for Armada's graphics. These popped up in a thread a little while ago when someone ordered the Arv 96 off their rep and ended up getting a 2019 graphic. Definitely seems like an arv graphic after seeing next years 116's but I also heard that the B-dog was going to have a dog on the graphic. Either way I'm liking the graphic scheme Armada's got going for next year.




i kinda want some 116s
Jan 24 2018 12:09AM
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.[sanhedrin].
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Atomic/K2/Line/Blizzard/Faction/Full Tilt/Rossignol/Armada:

https://www.evo.com/discover/2019-ski-preview
Jan 24 2018 7:31PM
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profa_212
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Jan 25 2018 12:13AM
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Zypher
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Icelantic Natural 101?
Jan 25 2018 12:21AM
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Carl_the_Llama
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.[sanhedrin].Atomic/K2/Line/Blizzard/Faction/Full Tilt/Rossignol/Armada:

https://www.evo.com/discover/2019-ski-preview

Inb4 every kid that wants to tour on park skis with daywreckers gets those full tilts.

Also holy fuck Pollard never ceases to disappoint with graphics.

And the technica guide pro or whatever they're calling it peaks my interest. Without me doing my research rn, whats being accepted as the best one boot quiver rn?
Jan 25 2018 8:56AM
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search4freshies
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Carl_the_LlamaAlso holy fuck Pollard never ceases to disappoint with graphics.

I actually almost puked in my mouth when I saw the Sakana 100. I think it may be the ugliest ski Pollards ever designed. Non-cohesive graphics, proboscis monkey nose-shaped shovels, some sort of joy division pulsar fish scan thing (tf is that?), and the scales just dont do it for me. BUT if it skis like the pescado who cares what it looks like.


Edit for those of you who dont know what a proboscis monkey is:


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Jan 25 2018 10:33AM
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Sklar
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Here's a rundown of 2019 skis gear from most of the major brands.

My favorite new gear was the Shift and the new Bent Chetler (it's even lighter) though I think it may be too soft for me in the PNW.
Jan 25 2018 10:49AM
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.nasty
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^aready posted there, bud
Jan 25 2018 11:00AM
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Sklar
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.nasty^aready posted there, bud


oops, i guess people do follow our social media
Jan 25 2018 11:04AM
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cobra_commander
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SklarHere's a rundown of 2019 skis gear from most of the major brands.

My favorite new gear was the Shift and the new Bent Chetler (it's even lighter) though I think it may be too soft for me in the PNW.


Love to hear your though on the new Experience 88 and why your looking forward to buying one!
Jan 25 2018 11:09AM
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.[sanhedrin].
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No sign of a Sean Petit pro model in K2’s line up again. Is he just using the Marksman/Catamaran?
Jan 25 2018 2:03PM
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.MASSHOLE.
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SklarHere's a rundown of 2019 skis gear from most of the major brands.

My favorite new gear was the Shift and the new Bent Chetler (it's even lighter) though I think it may be too soft for me in the PNW.


Can you expand on the new salomon boots?
Jan 25 2018 3:54PM
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Sklar
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.MASSHOLE.Can you expand on the new salomon boots?


What boot? the MTN Lab? I think it's mostly unchanged
Jan 25 2018 3:57PM
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.MASSHOLE.
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SklarWhat boot? the MTN Lab? I think it's mostly unchanged


The new x/lab boots in general. Replacing the xmax according to the evo page.

Are they just renaming them or is it a significant change
Jan 25 2018 3:58PM
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Sklar
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.MASSHOLE.The new x/lab boots in general. Replacing the xmax according to the evo page.

Are they just renaming them or is it a significant change


Gotcha.
The S/Max line replaces the XMax line. It has a new shell construction method that's mono-injected and Salomon's calling "Coreframe," customization (Salomon calls it "Custom Shell HD") and they come with a new seamless liner. So, mostly minor tweaks that make it lighter and more boot fitter friendly.
Jan 25 2018 4:11PM
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.lencon
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SklarHere's a rundown of 2019 skis gear from most of the major brands.

My favorite new gear was the Shift and the new Bent Chetler (it's even lighter) though I think it may be too soft for me in the PNW.


I have a few questions.. hopefully you or someone could answer.

What did they do to the core of the CT3.0? I heard they changed it, which is good, cause the last core sucked, but did they change it for the better?

New Prodigy line should be sick, the 4.0 is great and they’re shaping the others around the 4.0

What is the difference between the Armada ARV 116 and the ARV 116 Zero? Just weight? Or does the Zero have a stiffer flex and more carbon stringers?
Jan 25 2018 4:15PM
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.MASSHOLE.
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SklarGotcha.
The S/Max line replaces the XMax line. It has a new shell construction method that's mono-injected and Salomon's calling "Coreframe," customization (Salomon calls it "Custom Shell HD") and they come with a new seamless liner. So, mostly minor tweaks that make it lighter and more boot fitter friendly.


Any return of the Ghost?

Or is it utterly dead? :(
Jan 25 2018 4:23PM
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chicken
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.MASSHOLE.Any return of the Ghost?

Or is it utterly dead? :(


I hope it's dead...
Jan 26 2018 1:00AM
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_Jeffrey_
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Any details on the RMU YLE ski?
Jan 26 2018 1:01AM
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-SnowSnoli-
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.[sanhedrin].No sign of a Sean Petit pro model in K2’s line up again. Is he just using the Marksman/Catamaran?

Catamaran essentially is petits pro model. He had yet to renew his contract while they developed it and called it that instead.
Jan 26 2018 3:47AM
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onenerdykid
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.MASSHOLE.Any return of the Ghost?

Or is it utterly dead? :(


I'm 99% that boot is dead, they just sold so few of those that it was hard to justify making them anymore.

The whole 2-buckle performance boot was never a huge hit. And you can see that today with all of the mods athletes/boot-fitters are doing to the MTN boots.
Jan 26 2018 5:19AM
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GayWolf420
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Interested in what Salomon has for Alpine bindings for some reason. Improvements on the STH2 16's and bindings alike (besides the paint jobs of course).
Jan 26 2018 11:26AM
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.MASSHOLE.
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DeebieSkeebiesInterested in what Salomon has for Alpine bindings for some reason. Improvements on the STH2 16's and bindings alike (besides the paint jobs of course).


https://www.facebook.com/powder/videos/10155417919263348/Lots of info here.

@ 5:01, looks like you can see a dual buckle boot. Maybe just a newer version of the Ghost 100 :(
Jan 26 2018 11:40AM
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onenerdykid
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DeebieSkeebiesInterested in what Salomon has for Alpine bindings for some reason. Improvements on the STH2 16's and bindings alike (besides the paint jobs of course).


STH2 13/16 just receive color updates

Warden 11 is now MNC (it was just Alpine 5355 last year)
Jan 26 2018 12:00PM
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Bumblesteeze
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How does the new Smax compare to the Xmax in terms of fit? I bought a pair of Xmax 120s this year and I really like them so far. That feel when the boot you purchased in the current year is replaced the following year.
Jan 26 2018 4:38PM
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onenerdykid
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BumblesteezeHow does the new Smax compare to the Xmax in terms of fit? I bought a pair of Xmax 120s this year and I really like them so far. That feel when the boot you purchased in the current year is replaced the following year.


Very similar, probably exact. It's more of a tech update than a fit update
Jan 27 2018 7:18AM
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TrippTermini
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White Vishnus? Or just the cloud version in weird lighting?
Jan 28 2018 9:12PM
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DUKES
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.lenconI have a few questions.. hopefully you or someone could answer.

What did they do to the core of the CT3.0? I heard they changed it, which is good, cause the last core sucked, but did they change it for the better?

New Prodigy line should be sick, the 4.0 is great and they’re shaping the others around the 4.0

What is the difference between the Armada ARV 116 and the ARV 116 Zero? Just weight? Or does the Zero have a stiffer flex and more carbon stringers?


They updated the core with Poplar to increase durability. I still wouldn’t trust it. I snapped 4 pairs of 3.0s I’m done dealing with them personally because they continue to use damn balsa wood. Balsa wood the shit you used to build bridge models with in enineering class. Yes it’s light, but it’s shit.
Jan 29 2018 11:16AM
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.lencon
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DUKESThey updated the core with Poplar to increase durability. I still wouldn’t trust it. I snapped 4 pairs of 3.0s I’m done dealing with them personally because they continue to use damn balsa wood. Balsa wood the shit you used to build bridge models with in enineering class. Yes it’s light, but it’s shit.


I’m not worried about snapping a core, the hybrids just ski kinda funky. All the other cores I really like tho!
Jan 29 2018 11:18AM
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DUKES
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_Jeffrey_Any details on the RMU YLE ski?


Prototype stage they showed 2 different proto shapes which look to be asymmetrical sidecut. Interesting. Hope to see what the shape is on that project north shore though
Jan 29 2018 11:19AM
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snowpocalypse
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New Hoji LTD boot. Will check back once it hits snow.




Jan 29 2018 4:55PM
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search4freshies
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snowpocalypseNew Hoji LTD boot. Will check back once it hits snow.






GIMME DEM SPECS!!!!
Jan 29 2018 4:57PM
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snowpocalypse
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search4freshiesGIMME DEM SPECS!!!!


101 last
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Full carbon Garilamid shell
New walk mech that has great range of motion, a little squeaky here in the shop but the verdict is out till they hit snow.
Speed toe ( bummed out I can't run it with my cast system or the new soli binding)
Feels stiff enough 120ish
Jan 29 2018 5:06PM
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Peach.
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snowpocalypse101 last
1450 Grams
Full carbon Garilamid shell
New walk mech that has great range of motion, a little squeaky here in the shop but the verdict is out till they hit snow.
Speed toe ( bummed out I can't run it with my cast system or the new soli binding)
Feels stiff enough 120ish


Any info on forward lean specs out yet?
Jan 29 2018 5:34PM
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snowpocalypse
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Peach.Any info on forward lean specs out yet?


Haven't seen the numbers for ski mode. Dynafit claims 55 of cuff movement in tour. That seems about right. The forward lean is adjustable but I'll take measurements after its done cooking on my foot.
Jan 29 2018 5:43PM
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.[sanhedrin].
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Earlier reports stated that Hoji’s new boot has a 103.5mm last.
Jan 29 2018 6:02PM
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.MASSHOLE.
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.[sanhedrin].Earlier reports stated that Hoji’s new boot has a 103.5mm last.


This.

Early reports say it's like a boat.
Jan 29 2018 8:44PM
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Peach.
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.MASSHOLE.This.

Early reports say it's like a boat.


My foot looks like a loaf of banana bread so to be honest with you I'm okay with this.

I'd love to have a high performance touring boot I can ski in my true size without needing to modify the shell so drastically.
Jan 29 2018 9:03PM
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onenerdykid
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Peach.My foot looks like a loaf of banana bread .


lol
Jan 30 2018 3:14AM
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japanada
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toss a thick/size up intuition into it to take up space. That's what I did with my old Lupo AX120s
Jan 30 2018 8:41AM
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Peach.
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onenerdykidlol


As a former boot fitter it’s exactly what you don’t want to see on an aggressive 100+ day a year skier.
With that being said, the new Atomic boots you’ve had a hand in have been a godsend for a large portion of this ignored market.

Good work.
Jan 30 2018 1:51PM
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