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NEED HELP PICKING OUT ALL MTN/POW SKIS

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jkon12
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I am looking for a good pair of decently fat all mtn skis that can handle some pow that are fun an playful. I mostly ski park so I don't really know what is good for all mtn/pow skis. I am currently looking at the jeffrey 114 and the shreditor 112, I am also open to other options as well.
Apr 8 2016 3:44PM
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hot.pocket
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Height

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Skier Ability

Where do you ski
Apr 8 2016 4:51PM
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jkon12
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I am 6'2" 200 lb, I would consider myself advanced but not expert and I live on the east coast but would like to use these skis on the west coast when I do go out there
Apr 8 2016 5:11PM
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hot.pocket
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First option, Deathwish. 112 underfoot, triple camber, will be wide for an east coast ski but will hold up on ice, crush it in powder. On the softer, fun riding side (in comparison to option three).

http://www.momentskis.com/products/deathwish

Second option, PB&J. 101 underfoot, will float on the west coast but not terribly wide for the east coast. Fun all around all mountain ski.

http://www.momentskis.com/products/pbj

Third option, Belafonte. 106 underfoot, triple camber. Stiff charger ski, if that's what you're into. Will hold up in all conditions.

http://www.momentskis.com/products/belafonte
Apr 8 2016 6:15PM
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jkon12
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Thanks for the help, have you heard anything on the shreditor 112 cause there is a pretty good deal on them now
Apr 8 2016 8:00PM
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hot.pocket
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jkon12Thanks for the help, have you heard anything on the shreditor 112 cause there is a pretty good deal on them now


I have a friend who rides them, seems to like them. Only thing is, they are fairly soft and will get floppy at high speeds.
Apr 9 2016 12:32PM
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cydwhit
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I have the Shreditor 112's (189cm) and I have like 5 days on Jeffreys.


Love both skis, but they are different. However if you told me I had to ski one ski for the rest of my life in every condition, I'd probably pick one of those two.

The K2's go on sale a lot, they are easy to get deals on. They are a little softer, but not terribly so, they're also pretty rockered and tapered. They ski reasonably short, but the 189cm is a big ski, so, for me at least, they did a good job balancing quickness and the ability to swivel, while also being able to open it up.

The ON3P's are sick. They'll offer more support and stability, they are stiffer, more cambered, less tapered and lighter. I'd say they are more versatile, and more substantial, while still being able to play, I'd put them more on the chargy end of the spectrum that the K2, but I still found them to be incredibly fun, and are way better when you are hauling in variable conditions.

It's worth noting that neither of these skis are coming back next year. The Kartel 108 / 116 and Marksman take their places.

I'm really hoping the Kartel 108 takes that ultimate do-it-all spot, but we shall see!
Apr 9 2016 2:53PM
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jkon12
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Awesome thanks for the info, that was really helpful! I may just try to see what I can get the better deal on since they will my first all mtn/ pow ski.

Also they are making a wider version of the kartel next year??
Apr 10 2016 12:46AM
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cydwhit
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jkon12Awesome thanks for the info, that was really helpful! I may just try to see what I can get the better deal on since they will my first all mtn/ pow ski.

Also they are making a wider version of the kartel next year??


Yep. Kartel 98, 108, 116. The 108 and 116 are probably the two skis from SIA that I'm most excited about atm.
Apr 10 2016 9:50AM
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jkon12
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Huh that makes me want to wait to buy the 116, they would probably be a blast on the hill! But I am planning a big west coast trip next season and want to get a decent deal on a pair of skis
Apr 10 2016 10:36AM
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.Asain-Skiier
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Check out Down Skis throwdown 110 their some of the lightest skis out there and super jibby while still being stable when you're charging.
Apr 10 2016 12:01PM
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jkon12
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.Asain-SkiierCheck out Down Skis throwdown 110 their some of the lightest skis out there and super jibby while still being stable when you're charging.


Thanks, I remember reading about them in the fall but I couldn't find too many reviews/info on them. The look like they have a good shape and construction though
Apr 10 2016 2:22PM
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.MASSHOLE.
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Blizzard Gunsmoke.
Apr 10 2016 7:19PM
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.Asain-Skiier
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jkon12Thanks, I remember reading about them in the fall but I couldn't find too many reviews/info on them. The look like they have a good shape and construction though


I might be a bit biased because I ride for them but they make awesome skis. Every season I have cracked my edges on every ski but this season I have zero edge cracks and the bases are perfect.
Apr 11 2016 11:28AM
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jkon12
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.Asain-SkiierI might be a bit biased because I ride for them but they make awesome skis. Every season I have cracked my edges on every ski but this season I have zero edge cracks and the bases are perfect.


Ok, I am just looking for something playful and fun to ride. If that was the throwdown 110 are then I probably look into getting some.
Apr 11 2016 12:28PM
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.Asain-Skiier
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Couldn't recommend them enough, I can see if I can get you a discount code, PM me.
Apr 11 2016 12:30PM
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jkon12
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Also does down skis ship to Canada? Or anywhere in North America?
Apr 11 2016 12:32PM
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HAMNATION
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always this option for 3 hunna

http://www.surfaceskis.com/hardgoods/mountain-creative/outsider/index.html
Apr 11 2016 7:48PM
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YunGBlood
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faction candide 3.0... best skis i ever skied on. so much fun. i use 186 and have similar height+weight
Apr 12 2016 9:00AM
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Quanell_x
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Icelantic Nomads. Handles everything on the mtn, super playful and bouncy in powder. 105 underfoot is plenty wide to get good float, and won't sacrifice agility on the front side. They crush cliffs, and are light enough to get good air on jumps and kickers as well. May be a bit on the expensive side, but turtely worth it IMO...
Apr 14 2016 10:57AM
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PowdaChowda
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I love my Atomics. I would say look up the Atomic Automatic, or the new atomic Backlands: heres a link with all the new atomics:
https://www.newschoolers.com/news/read/Atomic-Skis-2016-17

I am not a atomic rep but I just LOVE Atomics skis. I currently have the Atomic Alibi, Access, bent Chetler, and am buying the new backlands (which are the new version of the automatics).

The Bent Chetlers are HUGE and Heavy but Charge and can take on anything, (if you can muscle them around)

They are all pretty damp and playful! And have TOUGH bases. Rarely have I gotten a core shot in any of them. They are tough skis!

anyways thats my 2 cents!
Apr 14 2016 12:34PM
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skeetskeet9000
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FACTION CANDIDE 3.0
Apr 18 2016 11:58PM
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