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Hunt for the oldest the pretzel

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baaangthat
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Cory Vs 2003 superunknown @ 4:20. Post an older pretzel
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/614309/Corey-Vanular-Superunknown
Mar 11 2016 12:13AM
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NewEscuelers
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Can we just acknowledge how far skiing has come and that an edit like this would get downvoted on NS today?

Also I once found a pretzel under my bed that I guardsmen was at least 15 years old
Mar 11 2016 12:30AM
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grantwhitty
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Found it
Mar 11 2016 12:52AM
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S.J.W
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Corey invented the pretzel. So no there probably won't be an older pretzel
Mar 11 2016 1:08AM
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eheath
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Sw 2 pretzel doesn't count as the first pretzel ever, we need to find the first 2 on pretzel 2, which I believe Tom or Steve were the first (ish) to do it probably in a super old roundtop riders edit.

The first time I even heard people talk about 2 on pretz 2 was at high North in 04 and they were talking about Tom being able to do it. Ns find the vid.
Mar 11 2016 1:27AM
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PATROL
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Corey Vanular's 2pretz2 in Shanghai Six (2005) was probably the first one in a bigger ski movie.
Also, from the same season (0:30):
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/51105/Can-Vanular-Kick-It-
Mar 11 2016 1:37AM
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S.J.W
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eheathSw 2 pretzel doesn't count as the first pretzel ever, we need to find the first 2 on pretzel 2, which I believe Tom or Steve were the first (ish) to do it probably in a super old roundtop riders edit.

The first time I even heard people talk about 2 on pretz 2 was at high North in 04 and they were talking about Tom being able to do it. Ns find the vid.


Can you explain how Corey doing a sw 2 pretz 2 doesn't count as the first (recorded) pretzel? The superunknown was from 2003
Mar 11 2016 1:37AM
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eheath
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S.J.WCan you explain how Corey doing a sw 2 pretz 2 doesn't count as the first (recorded) pretzel? The superunknown was from 2003


Because it's a sw 2 pretzel
Mar 11 2016 1:38AM
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S.J.W
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eheathBecause it's a sw 2 pretzel


And I fail to see your point.

A pretzel is spinning one way onto a rail, spinning off the different way. Which corey did. Now unless I'm wrong, which I might be but that's my understanding of a pretzel.
Mar 11 2016 1:41AM
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eheath
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S.J.WAnd I fail to see your point.

A pretzel is spinning one way onto a rail, spinning off the different way. Which corey did. Now unless I'm wrong, which I might be but that's my understanding of a pretzel.


Nah I just don't think sw2 pretzel should count as the first ever pretz. Sw2 pretzel is 100 times easier, that's my reasoning.
Mar 11 2016 1:44AM
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dbchili
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Mar 11 2016 2:28AM
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dbchili
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https://vimeo.com/11571087
eheathNah I just don't think sw2 pretzel should count as the first ever pretz. Sw2 pretzel is 100 times easier, that's my reasoning.


yeah you're right. I guess you had to understand the point where skiing was at. Front 2's had been tossed for years, so throwing in sw2's before wasn't that mind blowing. Switching body directions on a regular 2 in was though, especially as skiing was largely overshadowed by snowboarding and the trick really can't be done properly/consistently on a snowboard. It really was revolutionary

this definitely isn't the first, but it'd be one of the first ones for sure

https://vimeo.com/11571087

+k for an embed

also hilarious to see tom, steve and warnick at probably 15 years old?
Mar 11 2016 2:45AM
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Puzzled
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Abu-BaghdadiA pretzel is spinning one way onto a rail, spinning off the different way.


Pretzel used to be the nickname for 2 blind 2.
Also for most skiers, a sw 2 front 2 is way easier than a 2 blind 2
Mar 11 2016 7:31AM
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SammyDubz
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AltitudeFotoFound it


Looks like a turd to me
Mar 11 2016 8:25AM
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Shoey-Ski
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Tom wallnuts was holding the first pretzel when he was born
Mar 11 2016 10:10AM
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SofaKingSick
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MusikunatCorey Vanular's 2pretz2 in Shanghai Six (2005) was probably the first one in a bigger ski movie.
Also, from the same season (0:30):
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/51105/Can-Vanular-Kick-It-


that shot at 0:30 is definitely the one i remember as being the first i saw. it was in a different edit and was the last shot im pretty sure, and the comment section was full of discussion on what it's called ("270 to rewind 270!" "no, you just say 270 on to backside 270" etc etc)

and yeah, corey's in shanghai six is the first one i can think of in a major movie

im not saying no one ever did one before him, but i wouldnt be surprised if that was the case. simply 270ing onto rails only got big the year before that...

someone should ask corey when his first one was, and if he knows of one that happened before that
Mar 11 2016 12:22PM
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cwillygood
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Abu-BaghdadiCan you explain how Corey doing a sw 2 pretz 2 doesn't count as the first (recorded) pretzel? The superunknown was from 2003


because you can be looking the same way the whole time on sw2
Mar 11 2016 12:33PM
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Laurent_Martin
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Here's my contribution to this thread: Andrew Brett 2 in pretzel both ways back in 2005
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/46788/2in-pretzel-out-both-way
Mar 11 2016 4:19PM
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msndotwav
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Laurent_MartinHere's my contribution to this thread: Andrew Brett 2 in pretzel both ways back in 2005
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/46788/2in-pretzel-out-both-way


great contriboot L
Mar 11 2016 4:40PM
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skierman
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eheathSw 2 pretzel doesn't count as the first pretzel ever, we need to find the first 2 on pretzel 2, which I believe Tom or Steve were the first (ish) to do it probably in a super old roundtop riders edit.

The first time I even heard people talk about 2 on pretz 2 was at high North in 04 and they were talking about Tom being able to do it. Ns find the vid.


Vanular was the first on that flat rail at whatever the fuck that rail jam was.
Mar 11 2016 5:56PM
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RudyGarmisch
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I like this thread and think we need more of the same caliber.

First 360 swap?
Mar 12 2016 2:53AM
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theabortionator
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SteveStepp

pretzels are damn sick, i give mad props to anyone who can do them



It's crazy reading comments on videos that old. I mean I remember when some of these things were new, but when you see stuff every day in the park and edits you forget about life before it.



I feel like you'd have to do a triple cork out of a one footed grind while chugging a beer for people to care that much these days
Mar 12 2016 3:16AM
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TellaFriendTour
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K Day? Maybe? Can we get a Lafa representative in here to confirm this?
Mar 12 2016 1:36PM
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Park_Ranger
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Laurent_MartinHere's my contribution to this thread: Andrew Brett 2 in pretzel both ways back in 2005
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/46788/2in-pretzel-out-both-way


crazy reading all of those old comments from Steve, Matt Walker, Cosco and Will Wesson. They were all stoked about this and didn't really know what to call it. Skiing has come so far!
Mar 12 2016 1:46PM
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Cadenmccullough
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Actually crazy!
Mar 12 2016 3:12PM
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chubbspeterson
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sean logan is probably up there with one of the first, vanular did one in a breck edit to some tupac song a really long time ago also
Mar 12 2016 3:33PM
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UFOsarereal
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RudyGarmischI like this thread and think we need more of the same caliber.

First 360 swap?


I feel like that's got to be Iannick B
Mar 12 2016 7:23PM
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dbchili
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RudyGarmischI like this thread and think we need more of the same caliber.

First 360 swap?


the first one i remember seeing was will in an old killington edit, he was wearing one of those giro helmets with a huge visor, for some reason i remember that
Mar 14 2016 5:00AM
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WIllW
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First person I ever saw do one was C Van. I remember watching it in a backyard edit and also breck edit and going to bolton valley a few days later to try and learn it. I've heard it was K Day though.
Mar 14 2016 7:24AM
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the_yock_34
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first ever lip on blind 2?
Mar 14 2016 10:15PM
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UFOsarereal
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the_yock_34first ever lip on blind 2?


probably Antoine Gagnier back in 1998 or some shit. He's a real1.
Mar 14 2016 11:33PM
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jensen
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I'll also agree that the first pretzel I ever saw was CVan on that first rail in freeway. I watched that over and over having my mind blown. That fall Shanghai Six came out and he had that pretzel in the rail jam.

During that summer Roundtop Riders (Wallish, Stepp) had the mammoth Zoolander in it that had more pretzels than I could count. That was the first edit that I ever saw that made me think pretzels are actually a possible trick.

I think all of this was 2005. Maybe 2004.
Mar 14 2016 11:38PM
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jensen
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jensenI'll also agree that the first pretzel I ever saw was CVan on that first rail in freeway. I watched that over and over having my mind blown. That fall Shanghai Six came out and he had that pretzel in the rail jam.

During that summer Roundtop Riders (Wallish, Stepp) had the mammoth Zoolander in it that had more pretzels than I could count. That was the first edit that I ever saw that made me think pretzels are actually a possible trick.

I think all of this was 2005. Maybe 2004.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC2yiTAxKlk
Mar 14 2016 11:40PM
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jensen
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jensenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC2yiTAxKlk


embed?

/triple post
Mar 14 2016 11:40PM
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baaangthat
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RudyGarmischI like this thread and think we need more of the same caliber.

First 360 swap?

First one I remember is colby in wicked
Mar 15 2016 8:28PM
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VANULAR
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This is the oldest forward pretz I have on film but I learned this trick the summer before this shot on whis glacier https://instagram.com/p/232EOwhzq8/
Mar 15 2016 10:41PM
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VANULAR
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https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/43613/back-yard-training-zone--hopefully-it-works-now-



this is both way 270 to switch in dec 2003
Mar 15 2016 10:54PM
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FUUUCK
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Vanular's was the first one I ever saw in that Breck edit.

Remember when we called switch 7 shifty's switch 7 REWINDS?
Mar 15 2016 11:24PM
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eheath
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VANULARThis is the oldest forward pretz I have on film but I learned this trick the summer before this shot on whis glacier https://instagram.com/p/232EOwhzq8/


Definitely the first ones I ever saw, at least to the best of my memory.
Mar 15 2016 11:49PM
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deleted5
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NewEscuelersCan we just acknowledge how far skiing has come and that an edit like this would get downvoted on NS today?

Also I once found a pretzel under my bed that I guardsmen was at least 15 years old


In 2003 I was getting kicked out of a park because it was snowboarders only.
Mar 16 2016 12:23AM
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VANULAR
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NewEscuelersCan we just acknowledge how far skiing has come and that an edit like this would get downvoted on NS today?

Also I once found a pretzel under my bed that I guardsmen was at least 15 years old


That edit came out 9 years before you even got a newschoolers account kiddo..
Mar 16 2016 1:12AM
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deleted5
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RudyGarmischI like this thread and think we need more of the same caliber.

First 360 swap?


Not a 360 but this I will remember seeing this trick for the first time and truly being amazed when watching a ski trick. https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/816967/720-Switch-Up
Mar 16 2016 2:04AM
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SofaKingSick
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VANULARThis is the oldest forward pretz I have on film but I learned this trick the summer before this shot on whis glacier https://instagram.com/p/232EOwhzq8/


so, what do you think-- are you the first person you knew of to do forward 2 pretz 2?

and if so, what made you think to do it? snowboarders?
Mar 16 2016 12:22PM
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stokedelic
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Titsandwich11so, what do you think-- are you the first person you knew of to do forward 2 pretz 2?

and if so, what made you think to do it? snowboarders?


i feel like its not that hard to imagine...
Mar 17 2016 12:17PM
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SofaKingSick
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FriedRicei feel like its not that hard to imagine...


what an insightful comment....

were you skiing park in 2002 and 2003? believe me, everyone was pretty fuckin impressed with the creativity and technical skill of this at the time. 270s on had literally just gotten somewhat common the year before. in 2001 a front swap would get woops and cheers from the lift

im simply asking if he saw another skier do it, saw a snowboarder do it, or just decided it'd be dope to try. im pretty sure we got the term pretzel from snowboarding, but they aren't as into them as skiers are (plus most pretzel tricks are a lot easier to do on skis)
Mar 17 2016 12:25PM
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stokedelic
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Titsandwich11what an insightful comment....

were you skiing park in 2002 and 2003? believe me, everyone was pretty fuckin impressed with the creativity and technical skill of this at the time. 270s on had literally just gotten somewhat common the year before. in 2001 a front swap would get woops and cheers from the lift


im sorry, i guess i just dont see why he decided to pretzel as a mind blowing feat of man. I mean come on, if 2s on and off were being introduced it cant have been that hard to put 2 and 2 together (literally)
Mar 17 2016 12:47PM
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SofaKingSick
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FriedRiceit cant have been that hard to put 2 and 2 together (literally)


ha, nice one

yeah no worries man. it's easy to look back and think it seems obvious, is all im saying. we were still being really impressed by 2ing onto rails. the edge control to stop that momentum and spin out the other way was not something taken for granted back then at all
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