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SkierPT
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Hey guys,

I am looking for ski advice. I am 6'1 180lbs. At this point in my skiing I don't charge all that often but I enjoy the park and mountain. I'll ride hard once in a while. I've been skiing park for almost 10 years now and the models of skis change and there are so many brands I can't keep them straight.

Right now I have Vokyl Walls 185 cm with FKS 14s on them. To me they are too heavy and the swing weight is too much for me. I like the stiffness of them though. My first question is are these skis just heavy or would lighter bindings improve them for me? I know the FKS 14s are heavy (right?)

I used to have the old purple and green chronics. I loved them and the swing weight seemed very light even with the same fks 14s on them. They were also pretty stiff in my opinion. My brother has the new chronics and they seem softer but also a low swing weight.

I guess im looking for a stiffer ski that can handle my height and weight that isnt a noodle but isn't super heavy. I haven't tried rockered skis but maybe this is an option?

I love the chronics but i dont really know the difference between the ones I had before and the new ones.

Any advice at all would be cool.
Mar 8 2016 11:56AM
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SkierPT
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Also to add I am on the east coast at the moment. I'm thinking maybe a lighter semi rockered ski with light bindings like the squires?
Mar 8 2016 1:06PM
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jonogarski
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for skis with a light swing weight check out http://lineskis.com/skis/future-spin
Mar 8 2016 7:06PM
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Swandog7
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im 5'7 120 or so and I probably ski on a heavier setup than you with not many issues. I got da Nollies with pivot 14s in size 170. Gain some strength and technique.
Keep your pivots, don't fuck with squires. Also look into the Armada AR7(next year they make the AR8) as well
Mar 8 2016 10:25PM
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SkierPT
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I can bet I hit the gym more than any of you worms and can probably out-lift most of you. This site fucking sucks now. Just asking for some serious advice since I've almost killed myself once on these skis I have. Back in the day this site was rad.

Once you end up in the ICU not knowing where've you been with your brain bleeding, then come at me.
Mar 9 2016 10:50AM
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Mr.Bishop
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jonogarskifor skis with a light swing weight check out http://lineskis.com/skis/future-spin


Swandog7im 5'7 120 or so and I probably ski on a heavier setup than you with not many issues. I got da Nollies with pivot 14s in size 170. Gain some strength and technique.
Keep your pivots, don't fuck with squires. Also look into the Armada AR7(next year they make the AR8) as well


SkierGuyNickI can bet I hit the gym more than any of you worms and can probably out-lift most of you. This site fucking sucks now. Just asking for some serious advice since I've almost killed myself once on these skis I have. Back in the day this site was rad.


You've got some decent advice above. As well, you should follow some of the reviews put out by our Gear Editors. Twig has some fantastic stuff, but there's also great things in the Review System.

https://www.newschoolers.com/news/read/The-5-Hottest-Skis-2017-Tested

https://www.newschoolers.com/membernewsread/The-Roofbox-Editors-Picks-Park

I removed some of the dumb answers to this thread, because I think Gear talk should be a helpful place.
Mar 9 2016 5:39PM
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Oli_Kelski
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I had a set of Volkl Walls and found the same problem with the swingweight, even with lighter bindings they're still heavy. If you have the money for it have a look at the Amplid Syntax, I ride them now and they're a little stiffer than the Walls, and full camber too, but super light, pretty much non existent swingweight. From what I know of the new Chronics they're made to be a buttery, playful ski, but most skis are sadly headed that way now
Mar 9 2016 5:41PM
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Deforestation
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SkierGuyNickI can bet I hit the gym more than any of you worms and can probably out-lift most of you. This site fucking sucks now. Just asking for some serious advice since I've almost killed myself once on these skis I have. Back in the day this site was rad.

Once you end up in the ICU not knowing where've you been with your brain bleeding, then come at me.


Ok, so we gave you actual advice trying to help, and you curse us out in return?

If all you wanted was a list of the lightest skis, you could have easily looked it up. Oh look, a thread on the very subject:
https://www.newschoolers.com/forum/thread/804900/Lightest-Skis

Now instead of bitching, how about you explain the physics behind swing weight in relation to body weight, because I don't think you understand the concept. High quality bindings don't vary all that much in weight, and they're towards the center of the centripital force generated while you're spinning, meaning they barely affect anything.

Would you care if you had a pound of shit inside you? Probably not, so how do a couple of ounces on a pair of bindings matter so much?

I'm sure whatever fall you had that sent you to the hospital was your skis fault though.
Mar 9 2016 6:31PM
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Mr.Bishop
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DeforestationOk, so we gave you actual advice trying to help, and you curse us out in return?

If all you wanted was a list of the lightest skis, you could have easily looked it up. Oh look, a thread on the very subject:
https://www.newschoolers.com/forum/thread/804900/Lightest-Skis

Now instead of bitching, how about you explain the physics behind swing weight in relation to body weight, because I don't think you understand the concept. High quality bindings don't vary all that much in weight, and they're towards the center of the centripital force generated while you're spinning, meaning they barely affect anything.

Would you care if you had a pound of shit inside you? Probably not, so how do a couple of ounces on a pair of bindings matter so much?

I'm sure whatever fall you had that sent you to the hospital was your skis fault though.


Swing weight is totally different from total weight, and it does make a big difference. This is a major feature in park skis when you're looking at them.

Lets keep this conversation civil, and drop the attacks please.
Mar 9 2016 6:37PM
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SammyDubz
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SkierGuyNickI can bet I hit the gym more than any of you worms and can probably out-lift most of you. This site fucking sucks now. Just asking for some serious advice since I've almost killed myself once on these skis I have. Back in the day this site was rad.

Once you end up in the ICU not knowing where've you been with your brain bleeding, then come at me.


sick dude so edgy
Mar 9 2016 6:44PM
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SkierPT
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DeforestationOk, so we gave you actual advice trying to help, and you curse us out in return?

If all you wanted was a list of the lightest skis, you could have easily looked it up. Oh look, a thread on the very subject:
https://www.newschoolers.com/forum/thread/804900/Lightest-Skis

Now instead of bitching, how about you explain the physics behind swing weight in relation to body weight, because I don't think you understand the concept. High quality bindings don't vary all that much in weight, and they're towards the center of the centripital force generated while you're spinning, meaning they barely affect anything.

Would you care if you had a pound of shit inside you? Probably not, so how do a couple of ounces on a pair of bindings matter so much?

I'm sure whatever fall you had that sent you to the hospital was your skis fault though.


You're unbelievable man. Like Bishop said swing weight and weight are different. Ever try a 270 or 450 on? You'll notice it then. And please don't talk about my injury. If you know so much about the physics behind it I am interested and am all ears.
Mar 10 2016 9:39AM
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SkierPT
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Oli_KelskiI had a set of Volkl Walls and found the same problem with the swingweight, even with lighter bindings they're still heavy. If you have the money for it have a look at the Amplid Syntax, I ride them now and they're a little stiffer than the Walls, and full camber too, but super light, pretty much non existent swingweight. From what I know of the new Chronics they're made to be a buttery, playful ski, but most skis are sadly headed that way now


Yeah something about the Walls I just do not like. Maybe I am out of "skiing shape" as I don't really huck much anymore but who knows. I'll look those up thanks man!
Mar 10 2016 9:41AM
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Deforestation
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SkierGuyNickAnd please don't talk about my injury.


K bud. Not like you were just complaining about it or anything.
Mar 10 2016 9:46AM
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SkierPT
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I looked into the new line honey badger. They look bad ass and similar to the anthems. Thinking these might fit the bill.
Mar 10 2016 9:55AM
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fries
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i have the jskis whip it in 164 and they have hardly any swing weight. I can't say anything about the flex though since I dont have much to compare it to (I stopped renting my skis like 2 years ago)
Mar 10 2016 10:44AM
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SkierPT
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J_Si have the jskis whip it in 164 and they have hardly any swing weight. I can't say anything about the flex though since I dont have much to compare it to (I stopped renting my skis like 2 years ago)


Those look dope!
Mar 10 2016 1:19PM
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Dddsz
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SkierGuyNickThose look dope!


Whip-its are not stiff at all.
Mar 10 2016 2:00PM
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