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Northwest everyday ski?

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jdi
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To start excuse me if I am missing anything as this is my first post here on NS.
I am just starting my move up into adult skis from kids skis and am a bit overwhelmed by the options.

Where I ski:
The pacific northwest
- Alpental
- Stevens Pass
- Crystal Mtn.

What I currently have:
Sir Francis Bacon Shorty

What I'm looking for:
Playful charger
Something that can be used on short tours (looking to get into the world of ski touring)
-Will be skiing probably 70 percent in bounds, 25 percent sidecountry, 5 percent touring
All mountain powder ski


What I am looking at:
ON3P Kartel 116 (the apparent successor to the jeffrey)
Salomon Guardian 13

Any other suggestions on skis I should look at for what I want?
Feb 22 2016 7:02PM
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hot.pocket
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Yes look at the Moment Deathwish, but only if you want to be badass.
Feb 22 2016 7:52PM
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RudyGarmisch
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Playful charger is an oxymoron. That said, a Kartel 116 would fit the bill for what I think you want nicely. Going to be a good deal stiffer and more supportive in the heavy crap we get out here, but its still a very fun and playful ski. Not going to be a true charger like a Wren with its flatter tail, but still mobs.
Feb 22 2016 9:24PM
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charmander
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116 seems a bit wide for an everyday ski, but thats just imo.

have you looked at the cochise?
Feb 23 2016 12:47AM
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shin-bang
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charmander116 seems a bit wide for an everyday ski, but thats just imo.

have you looked at the cochise?


Granted it is decently wide, I ride a 115mm underfoot all day everyday out here in Idaho
Feb 23 2016 1:06AM
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charmander
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i ski southern BC/N. ID and i find a 108 perfect everyday. which is why i ski a cochise, the 193 is plenty burly and its stiff enough to knife through dense shit but the ski is a lot quicker and more predictable.

115 is just too much ski when conditions are firm or youre in technical terrain.
Feb 23 2016 1:29AM
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gapersarefriends
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i ride akjj's every day and you would love them, obviously in a shorter size. playful when you want but they don't have a speed limit
Feb 23 2016 1:53AM
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jdi
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So from the responses it seems like it is mostly a skiers opinion on whether a 108 or 115 is the right size for an everyday ski for what i'm skiing. Now I just need to find a demo day to check some skis out. Thanks for the responses!
Feb 24 2016 7:29PM
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.lencon
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Yeah get K116 or K108

I love my 106s
Feb 24 2016 11:14PM
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shin-bang
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charmanderi ski southern BC/N. ID and i find a 108 perfect everyday. which is why i ski a cochise, the 193 is plenty burly and its stiff enough to knife through dense shit but the ski is a lot quicker and more predictable.

115 is just too much ski when conditions are firm or youre in technical terrain.


115 underfoot is my go to ski any day. The past couple weeks conditions have been hard, and I love the extra support the wider ski gives when boosting to flats or just anywhere.
Feb 25 2016 1:17AM
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Zypher
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djingoSo from the responses it seems like it is mostly a skiers opinion on whether a 108 or 115 is the right size for an everyday ski for what i'm skiing. Now I just need to find a demo day to check some skis out. Thanks for the responses!


108 or 115, it doesnt really matter. Its what your comfortable with. I could ride my 125 gypsys any day (and i have) with no problem because thats just the way they feel to me. That being said, I have a pair of 172 SFBs (wish i got 178 or even 184) and love them for my everyday ski in Oregon. Park, pow, and everything in-between, whats better? If I was in your position, Id just buy a pair of skis and mount em up however you like and get another pair of touring specific skis. AT bindings are burly but not exactly meant for the 95% in-bounds skiing you are looking to do.
Feb 25 2016 4:38AM
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jdi
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Zypher108 or 115, it doesnt really matter. Its what your comfortable with. I could ride my 125 gypsys any day (and i have) with no problem because thats just the way they feel to me. That being said, I have a pair of 172 SFBs (wish i got 178 or even 184) and love them for my everyday ski in Oregon. Park, pow, and everything in-between, whats better? If I was in your position, Id just buy a pair of skis and mount em up however you like and get another pair of touring specific skis. AT bindings are burly but not exactly meant for the 95% in-bounds skiing you are looking to do.


If that's the case that I should get a pair of touring specific skis and resort specific skis, what budget tech bindings and AT skis do you guys recommend. Don't need top of the line stuff because this equipment is mainly gonna be used for just intro to skinning and touring.
Feb 25 2016 11:58AM
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Zypher
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djingoIf that's the case that I should get a pair of touring specific skis and resort specific skis, what budget tech bindings and AT skis do you guys recommend. Don't need top of the line stuff because this equipment is mainly gonna be used for just intro to skinning and touring.


I dont know much about AT anything. My rich ass friend has a pair of Kingpins which are like 600 dollar AT bindings but thats all i know about them. When I hike out of bounds stuff, I just strap my skis to a backpack and start hiking or just sling them over my shoulder and go. You may not even need AT skis unless you are looking to go miles up to a desolate, resort less peak to ski down. Id just look into a light pair of skis that you can easily carry around, thats what i do
Feb 25 2016 1:20PM
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Thatdp
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Get the Mordecai from line drop a pair of marker f12's on them!
Feb 25 2016 3:46PM
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charmander
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just buy used shit

old dynafits and a voile charger or something would be a rad touring setup
Feb 25 2016 3:47PM
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