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BWalmer
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I was kind of away from NS for a while during the fall to finish up my final semester of college, but I feel like even still I would have seen something about this before. XGames just released an edit with Henrik and he's doing some pretty fucked up stuff in it. Including a rodeo/flat/cork/who the fuck knows 180 safety at 2:52 that seems to break physics into a million pieces. Either this is new footage, or I've been even more out of it that I thought...

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:14643836
Jan 27 2016 3:54PM
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saskskier
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I haven't seen this one yet, but Lolo did the best cork 180 of all time 10ish years ago

http://thumbs.newschoolers.com/index.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv232%2FMasterChief117%2FLaurentFavreCork1802.gif

**This post was edited on Jan 27th 2016 at 4:23:41pm

*edit* oops...I broke it even worse, haha. Back to the original.

**This post was edited on Jan 27th 2016 at 4:25:54pm
Jan 27 2016 4:14PM
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jca
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flat/bio 180... damnnnnnn

Lolo's cork 180 is still the best though.
Jan 27 2016 4:17PM
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BWalmer
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saskskierI haven't seen this one yet, but Lolo did the best cork 180 of all time 10ish years ago

http://thumbs.newschoolers.com/index.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv232%2FMasterChief117%2FLaurentFavreCork1802.gif


jcaflat/bio 180... damnnnnnn

Lolo's cork 180 is still the best though.


I know Lolo did it a while ago, but it's such a rare trick that whenever it's done there's usually a big deal made about it - like with that Russian guy last winter. Plus, the way Henrik does this one seems really different than Lolo's, he stops and reverts back the other direction. I just don't know how I missed this if it isn't new, ha.
Jan 27 2016 4:28PM
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K-Dot.
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Damn, I'd call that a flat 180.

I'd seen other shots in that before but none from the prime park session. His rotations are all just fucked good god
Jan 27 2016 4:29PM
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Ranch
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Damn that was crazy
Jan 27 2016 5:43PM
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Martin_B
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That edit was cray cray
Jan 27 2016 6:11PM
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e~b
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do you guys ever think to yourself how fucking ill it would be to live henrik's life? just throwing more than difficult tricks effortlessly and with copious amounts of steeze? yeah me too
Jan 27 2016 6:27PM
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eheath
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jcaflat/bio 180... damnnnnnn

Lolo's cork 180 is still the best though.


It's still not a "180" he does a full flip, hence its at least a 360. Please stop calling tricks with 540 degrees of rotation a 180.
Jan 27 2016 6:43PM
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eheath
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That being said, that video had some fucked up awesome tricks in it.
Jan 27 2016 6:44PM
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clorox
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eheathIt's still not a "180" he does a full flip, hence its at least a 360. Please stop calling tricks with 540 degrees of rotation a 180.


So if I do a legit cork 3 and before landing, revert 180, is it a cork 1 or a 5?
Jan 27 2016 6:59PM
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eheath
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GNARLY_BARLEYSo if I do a legit cork 3 and before landing, revert 180, is it a cork 1 or a 5?


I'm not referring to a corked rotation, im refering to a flipping rotation.

But, in that case, it would be neither, it would be a cork 3 revert, or something like that.
Jan 27 2016 7:04PM
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clorox
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eheathI'm not referring to a corked rotation, im refering to a flipping rotation.

But, in that case, it would be neither, it would be a cork 3 revert, or something like that.


That makes sense
Jan 27 2016 7:08PM
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Brocka_Flocka
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If I don't see that in Xgames I'm going to be disappointed

Last jump. Calling it.
Jan 27 2016 7:18PM
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rsvp
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that was fucked
Jan 27 2016 7:18PM
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saskskier
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Regardless of what that was (it did look a little more like a flip thing than a cork 180 thing), I'm pretty sure Harlaut's doubles are the only ones I like. He seems to be one of the only guys out there putting odd, weird and creative rotations into into the mix.
Jan 27 2016 7:31PM
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SammyDubz
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saskskierI'm pretty sure Harlaut's doubles are the only ones I like.


Jossi's carved dubs??!!?!?!?
Jan 27 2016 7:36PM
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saskskier
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SammyDubzJossi's carved dubs??!!?!?!?


Touche. I like everything Jossi does. I guess it would be more accurate to say there are a tiny few people I actually enjoy watching do doubles. Harlaut is one of them.
Jan 27 2016 7:40PM
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btedeschi
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Henrik called it a flat 180
Jan 27 2016 8:11PM
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eheath
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It's definitely not a 'flat 180'
Jan 27 2016 8:37PM
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BWalmer
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SammyDubzJossi's carved dubs??!!?!?!?


Jossi doing anything just always looks good.
Jan 27 2016 8:57PM
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JLev
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No other skier in the world with Henrik's natural abilities + creativity + style
Jan 27 2016 9:08PM
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FrenchFry
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Wow Eheaths comments here a bad. Stop being so annoying.
Jan 27 2016 9:21PM
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fries
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eheathIt's definitely not a 'flat 180'


Watch the skiers head as he is in the air. it only rotates 180 degrees..
Jan 27 2016 9:38PM
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Pac2
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eheathIt's still not a "180" he does a full flip, hence its at least a 360. Please stop calling tricks with 540 degrees of rotation a 180.


This isn't right it'd be a 180 because he never fully flips he stops half way. But id call it an under flip 180 not really set like a flatspin in my opinion
Jan 27 2016 9:50PM
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eheath
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schjfWatch the skiers head as he is in the air. it only rotates 180 degrees..


BrucetheSharkThis isn't right it'd be a 180 because he never fully flips he stops half way. But id call it an under flip 180 not really set like a flatspin in my opinion


His body flips one time, he does at least a 360.

Tricks like these aren't defined by the amount of rotation they do. It is in no way a 180.
Jan 27 2016 9:53PM
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Pac2
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eheathHis body flips one time, he does at least a 360.

Tricks like these aren't defined by the amount of rotation they do. It is in no way a 180.


I disagree but that's just me, if you're seeing that it's more than 180 then to each their own. I respect that.
Jan 27 2016 10:04PM
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yungsteeze
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eheathIt's still not a "180" he does a full flip, hence its at least a 360. Please stop calling tricks with 540 degrees of rotation a 180.

lmao if thats a 540 you're smokin on the loudest kush
Jan 27 2016 10:14PM
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kylemclean
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The problem with this is the flip vs spin debate. In a flat you technically don't flip so it could be classified as a 180
Jan 27 2016 10:23PM
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fries
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yungsteezelmao if thats a 540 you're smokin on the loudest kush


hahahahaha
Jan 27 2016 10:33PM
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eheath
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Every rotation that is a "flip" counts the flip as a rotation, I'm applying the definition just fine. Flat 3 is called a 360 is because you do a fucking 360, the axis of a rotation doesn't define if you "count it" or not.
Jan 27 2016 10:36PM
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fries
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eheathEvery rotation that is a "flip" counts the flip as a rotation, I'm applying the definition just fine. Flat 3 is called a 360 is because you do a fucking 360, the axis of a rotation doesn't define if you "count it" or not.


No.. I'm pretty sure the reason ts called a flat 3 is because if its a true flat 3 its precisely what the name implies, 360 degrees of rotation in the form of a flatspin.
Jan 27 2016 10:47PM
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yungsteeze
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eheathEvery rotation that is a "flip" counts the flip as a rotation, I'm applying the definition just fine. Flat 3 is called a 360 is because you do a fucking 360, the axis of a rotation doesn't define if you "count it" or not.


a lot of people disagree, but in the end nobody really cares what you call the trick. we all know it was sick, and there's no reason to be a trick nazi and turn the thread into a shitstorm of trick classification. regardless of what anybody says most people are goin to call it a flat 1.
thats just my 2 cents
Jan 27 2016 10:50PM
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jca
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yungsteezea lot of people disagree, but in the end nobody really cares what you call the trick. we all know it was sick, and there's no reason to be a trick nazi and turn the thread into a shitstorm of trick classification. regardless of what anybody says most people are goin to call it a flat 1.
thats just my 2 cents


YES
Jan 27 2016 10:53PM
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eheath
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No one does a flat spin the way you just described it other than a very select few. A flat spin is still a 360 rotation anyways, any other variation would be "corked". If someone throws a flat 3, flops their body around to land backwards, they probably were doing something closer to a cork 180. Get what I'm saying? Flat/rodeo defines a flip, like I said if you watch a mark abma or Eric Pollard flat 3, they're still 'flipping' just not necessarily inverted. Just because you don't go inverted doesn't mean you're not flipping and doing a 360 through that flip. A true flat 3 is the same rotation as a rodeo, just off axis and that's why you can't have a flat 180, period.

The trick posted earlier called 'flat 180' was most certainly a flip, even if he just leaned his head to the side, he's still flipping. Just because someone does a trick and contorts their body doesn't mean they're on a different axis or whatever you're trying to describe.
Jan 27 2016 11:38PM
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Alex_Moreno
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Henrik is the man! Edit was filthy and that trick was mind blowing. I'm always most excited to see him out of anyone at a big comp. He speaks the truth, "we gotta show how ill and style skiing can be!"
Jan 27 2016 11:45PM
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Jon_Taffer
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eheath hit his head too hard trying to rodeo and cant call tricks anymore
Jan 27 2016 11:58PM
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Raptor.
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It looks like he does half a lincoln loop (180) and then half a switch frontflip (180). So it's some sort of 360, but on more than one axis
Jan 28 2016 12:18AM
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Deepskier
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I call it more of an underflip if it didnt grab it would look more like an under flip anyway
Jan 28 2016 12:30AM
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Condorobrien
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Most PC answer. FLat 270 pretz 90. Not fully inverted but theres full 360 for you eheath. He clearly sets flat and clearly doesnt do a full three and then reverts to switch mid air. MADD steez and air awareness
Jan 28 2016 11:24AM
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frontswap
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I think we can all agree eheath takes the L on this one
Jan 28 2016 12:51PM
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eheath
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CondorobrienMost PC answer. FLat 270 pretz 90. Not fully inverted but theres full 360 for you eheath. He clearly sets flat and clearly doesnt do a full three and then reverts to switch mid air. MADD steez and air awareness


The rotation isn't defined by his horizontal axis only, you guys suck at reading.
Jan 28 2016 12:53PM
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TACO-DOG.exe
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eheathIt's still not a "180" he does a full flip, hence its at least a 360. Please stop calling tricks with 540 degrees of rotation a 180.


dunno why you're being downvoted so hard because you're right. kids these days are ignorant af i guess.
Jan 28 2016 1:16PM
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Condorobrien
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eheathThe rotation isn't defined by his horizontal axis only, you guys suck at reading.


I'm in total agreement with this one sentence but you haven't disproven what is said. You said earlier in the thread that cork 180 and 3 are possible becasue they arent flips. I'm saying he's doing a true flat and not flipping (unlike alot of backlip japans people do calling them flat 3s) and basically doing a cork1 but with his belly up instead of down. hence flat not cork.

BUT! I dont care anymore what people call this! Names Don't Matter. henrik and tight and lets just respect his arial wizardry!
Jan 28 2016 1:22PM
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DIX~
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eheathThe rotation isn't defined by his horizontal axis only, you guys suck at reading.


Dude by your logic a flat 5 should be called a flat 9. Flips don't count as spins, if somebody did a backflip and landed switch would you call it a backflip 540? Of course not, because it's a backflip 180.
Jan 28 2016 1:23PM
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eheath
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DIX~Dude by your logic a flat 5 should be called a flat 9. Flips don't count as spins, if somebody did a backflip and landed switch would you call it a backflip 540? Of course not, because it's a backflip 180.


A flat/rodeo 5 is a backflip with a 180 that is off axis. A flip is 360 plus the 180 rotation = flat/rodeo 5.
Jan 28 2016 3:09PM
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