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tdolloLet the guy ski and have fun. Isn't that what skiing is all about? Freeskiing has little rules which makes it great so why hate on people for doing their own thing? Grow up.
TallxTI understand your sentiment. It's the obviously agreeable thing to believe. Let people do what they want. The problem with this is that if we don't hate on things that are whack then other kids coming up will think this is acceptable behavior.
Jesper is skiing to get paid. Redbull videos are built for virality. Is it a terrible thing for people to see our sport? No. But they aren't seeing our sport, they're seeing a circus act on skis and it bastardizes what the rest of skiers are doing.
Instead of letting people ski and have fun I say let the people hate and be honest. Let's find out what everyone really thinks. Ahmet has been letting us know for years. It's time more people express their opinions instead of perpetuating this fake approval or acceptance. Just because you don't like someone's skiing doesn't mean you don't like who they are and vice versa. Try to keep that in mind.
In the video section, if you downvote something take time to express why. Post a comment about what you didn't like. If you upvote post why you liked it. Same in the forums. This voting system has tricked so many voices into being silent. Speak up.
These are some incomplete thoughts but I hope I expressed myself somewhat clearly. Would be happy to continue this conversation with anyone reading this.
JohwdannnnI think skiing should have more rules
traviasLoving all the hate OP is getting in this thread! I'm gonna go ahead and say it - Jesper is on track to become the next Candide. He has more talent than 99% of skiers out there. He's doing tricks that nobody else can dream of and actually making them look good.
So what if he has Redbull funding the bill and making him custom features. Good on him. He was talented and smart enough to convince a billion dollar company to get on his side.
TallxTI understand your sentiment. It's the obviously agreeable thing to believe. Let people do what they want. The problem with this is that if we don't hate on things that are whack then other kids coming up will think this is acceptable behavior.
Jesper is skiing to get paid. Redbull videos are built for virality. Is it a terrible thing for people to see our sport? No. But they aren't seeing our sport, they're seeing a circus act on skis and it bastardizes what the rest of skiers are doing.
Instead of letting people ski and have fun I say let the people hate and be honest. Let's find out what everyone really thinks. Ahmet has been letting us know for years. It's time more people express their opinions instead of perpetuating this fake approval or acceptance. Just because you don't like someone's skiing doesn't mean you don't like who they are and vice versa. Try to keep that in mind.
In the video section, if you downvote something take time to express why. Post a comment about what you didn't like. If you upvote post why you liked it. Same in the forums. This voting system has tricked so many voices into being silent. Speak up.
These are some incomplete thoughts but I hope I expressed myself somewhat clearly. Would be happy to continue this conversation with anyone reading this.
Tree60Well let me be completely honest. I downvoted you, you are objectively wrong about this, and devaluing the free part of freeskiing. Let people do whatever the fuck they want. This edit was creative, dangerous and cool as fuck. Just like Stept, just like B&E, just like real skifi. Why do you feel like you have the right to tell people how to ski in any way? Just because you aren't as stoked on a fucking cork 9 switch up as you are on a tailpress back 2, doesn't mean that Jesper is wrong to push the sport in his direction.
People said the same things about switch 10's and the same thing about double corks, but now people are doing them in incredibly stylish and creative ways. Let the sport progress how it's going to progress, and if you're not actively progressing the sport yourself, then shut the fuck up.
TOAST.So you want people thinking about what others think is cool while skiing rather than just having fun and doing what they want. Fuck that, skiing would become lame as hell. Sure people can voice there opinions but people should not change what they enjoy to fit what some jackass on the internet said.
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traviasLoving all the hate OP is getting in this thread! I'm gonna go ahead and say it - Jesper is on track to become the next Candide. He has more talent than 99% of skiers out there. He's doing tricks that nobody else can dream of and actually making them look good.
So what if he has Redbull funding the bill and making him custom features. Good on him. He was talented and smart enough to convince a billion dollar company to get on his side.
Mr.LukeOh and don't forget that more techy-skiers like Jesper let us appreciate soulful skiers like Edollo and B-Dog. Love what you love and don't hate on what others prefer. Everybody's different.
TallxTNo, that's a total misunderstanding of what I said. While skiing the only thing that matters is fun. I was encouraging people to more openly express their opinions even if they are negative because thats important too. If everyone just circle jerks positivity then shit that isn't cool prevails. I would hope for the negative criticisms to be constructive, but even if they aren't thats still important in a way.
Honestly tho, ask Jesper if he wanted to do that or if he wanted to get paid. Ask russ the same. This is about a pay check and maybe all of the people that don't like it are jealous, but I bet they'd rather be poor than compromise their skiing because that is their art. LJ has only misty'd out of rails at jams with a cash prize. He knows its not a sick trick, but it gets you paid so he goes for it. If we stopped doing that sort of shit altogether then we could impress people with something other than gymnastics on skis, and the people that don't get it will either learn to get it or they don't matter anyway.
Johwdannnnwow I'm amazed of my own stupidity
L.WattsAll you haters need to stop crying. I don't see any of you throwing doubles onto rails or mistys out. I do love the slow styley skiers like Candide but I also love watching the x games and such because its just incredible some of the things they do. Skiing is about having fun and surely if hes having fun its all good 😉
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TallxTI understand your sentiment. It's the obviously agreeable thing to believe. Let people do what they want. The problem with this is that if we don't hate on things that are whack then other kids coming up will think this is acceptable behavior.
Jesper is skiing to get paid. Redbull videos are built for virality. Is it a terrible thing for people to see our sport? No. But they aren't seeing our sport, they're seeing a circus act on skis and it bastardizes what the rest of skiers are doing.
Instead of letting people ski and have fun I say let the people hate and be honest. Let's find out what everyone really thinks. Ahmet has been letting us know for years. It's time more people express their opinions instead of perpetuating this fake approval or acceptance. Just because you don't like someone's skiing doesn't mean you don't like who they are and vice versa. Try to keep that in mind.
In the video section, if you downvote something take time to express why. Post a comment about what you didn't like. If you upvote post why you liked it. Same in the forums. This voting system has tricked so many voices into being silent. Speak up.
These are some incomplete thoughts but I hope I expressed myself somewhat clearly. Would be happy to continue this conversation with anyone reading this.
TallxTNo, that's a total misunderstanding of what I said. While skiing the only thing that matters is fun. I was encouraging people to more openly express their opinions even if they are negative because thats important too. If everyone just circle jerks positivity then shit that isn't cool prevails. I would hope for the negative criticisms to be constructive, but even if they aren't thats still important in a way.
Honestly tho, ask Jesper if he wanted to do that or if he wanted to get paid. Ask russ the same. This is about a pay check and maybe all of the people that don't like it are jealous, but I bet they'd rather be poor than compromise their skiing because that is their art. LJ has only misty'd out of rails at jams with a cash prize. He knows its not a sick trick, but it gets you paid so he goes for it. If we stopped doing that sort of shit altogether then we could impress people with something other than gymnastics on skis, and the people that don't get it will either learn to get it or they don't matter anyway.
TallxTNo, that's a total misunderstanding of what I said. While skiing the only thing that matters is fun. I was encouraging people to more openly express their opinions even if they are negative because thats important too. If everyone just circle jerks positivity then shit that isn't cool prevails. I would hope for the negative criticisms to be constructive, but even if they aren't thats still important in a way.
Honestly tho, ask Jesper if he wanted to do that or if he wanted to get paid. Ask russ the same. This is about a pay check and maybe all of the people that don't like it are jealous, but I bet they'd rather be poor than compromise their skiing because that is their art. LJ has only misty'd out of rails at jams with a cash prize. He knows its not a sick trick, but it gets you paid so he goes for it. If we stopped doing that sort of shit altogether then we could impress people with something other than gymnastics on skis, and the people that don't get it will either learn to get it or they don't matter anyway.
Mr.LukeWhat fucking direction do you want skiing to go in? Do you want the world of skiing to remain in a pit of front-270 on front-270 out for the rest of our dwindling lives? For fucks sake give freeskiing––a sport we are all lucky to have still growing instead of becoming obsolete like it could have––a chance to grow and develop.
Yeah sure, the guy likes to huck some spins. But if you saw Dumont or Todd Walnuts doing some of Jesper Tjäder's shit back in '07 you would've jerked off to those shots every night. We'll always have Nick Goeppers's and people who enjoy the technicality of throwing big spins: It's fine.
Jesper Tjäder is bringing something fresh to the table. He has a pretty fun style and likes to get creative with what can be done with skiing: Exactly what modern athletes should be doing. I swear to god when it comes to hip-hop and freeskiing anything progressive has people fingering their assholes pissing themselves off about nothing. Being progressive is how things develop, so just let yourselves get used to some new ideas and don't be so OG-freeskiing because nobody gives a fuck if you started watching Jon Olson back in 2001. Be open and you might just learn something cool about the modern world.
Nobody is ruining freeskiing. Calm your overly stimulated tits and enjoy the progressive skiing and cinematography of modern edits, both are fucking amazing. Skiing is skiing. It's all amazing.
nolaanOP is a troll
TallxTI understand your sentiment. It's the obviously agreeable thing to believe. Let people do what they want. The problem with this is that if we don't hate on things that are whack then other kids coming up will think this is acceptable behavior.
Jesper is skiing to get paid. Redbull videos are built for virality. Is it a terrible thing for people to see our sport? No. But they aren't seeing our sport, they're seeing a circus act on skis and it bastardizes what the rest of skiers are doing.
Instead of letting people ski and have fun I say let the people hate and be honest. Let's find out what everyone really thinks. Ahmet has been letting us know for years. It's time more people express their opinions instead of perpetuating this fake approval or acceptance. Just because you don't like someone's skiing doesn't mean you don't like who they are and vice versa. Try to keep that in mind.
In the video section, if you downvote something take time to express why. Post a comment about what you didn't like. If you upvote post why you liked it. Same in the forums. This voting system has tricked so many voices into being silent. Speak up.
These are some incomplete thoughts but I hope I expressed myself somewhat clearly. Would be happy to continue this conversation with anyone reading this.
KevskiIf you're concerned that "Freeskiing" as a whole can't handle multiple approaches to an activity that celebrates being expressive and creative, you clearly don't have much faith in the community or understand how creativity works.
You can leave your directive, narrow-minded comments elsewhere, and let us enjoy skiing for its universal stoke and diversity.
JohwdannnnIt has nothing to do with multiple approaches...I'm talking about this one approach which happens to focus mainly on spinning/flipping the most. As I said before, I couldn't dream of doing any of the tricks that Jesper is able to pull off. However, it's not a good representation of our sport. It doesn't fully encompass what skiing is about...having fun. All I see is someone whose doing something that he loves...yet trying to make money at the same time. It's a tough industry no shit.
will-blackwelli don't know what the fuck you're talking about
i can kinda understand when people hate on future-spins if they're ugly or the landing is super sketchy and the only merit of the trick is the rotation but Jesper does all of this shit with style and some of the cleanest landings ever, i just don't see what you could possibly be hating on
there are plenty of skiers out there steezing out tail presses and cool grabs in cork 5's, if that's what you're looking for then just don't pay attention to Jesper, because he's the only guy doing these tricks and i think 99% of the people on here want to see them and you just have no idea what you're talking about
the last 4 or 5 tricks in his supervention super edit are ridiculous, you can't argue that they're "only big spins"
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/746013/Jesper-Tjader---Supervention-Super-Edit
JohwdannnnAll I see is someone whose doing something that he loves...yet trying to make money at the same time.
