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dickrabbitReally want to pursue a career in business/marketing/sales or maybe even finance. All the schools I've been looking at are in the middle of cites and just don't look like fun campus's. Are there any decent business schools relatively close to any ski areas?
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.MASSHOLE.Or work your ass off .
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DJtearegasWhats wrong with getting a degree in business and then immediately getting an MBA?
.MASSHOLE.ZERO work experience. Most top MBA programs want to see work experience.
DJtearegasIf I went to lets say, CU Boulder, and got a bachelors in science of business administration, and pulled off a decent GPA, and then worked for a few years, do you think I'd be able to swing it into a top business school where I can network, or are these top schools going to laugh at my alma mater and tell me to take a hike?
.MASSHOLE.Pull off a good GPA, work at a reputable firm for a few years, build up your resume, and sure, it is definitely possible. You also need to have solid GMAT scores, good recommendations, and the drive to accomplish all of this. It may mean making sacrifices in your social life like less skiing, less partying, and less free time, but it certainly has a great payoff if you succeed.
Another option is passing the CFA exam. The CFA exam is very prestigious, costs a lot less than an MBA program, and is great for any quantitative job. That being said, it does not provide the network that a top MBA program does.
--ski--The CFA is quite divisive. I know a bunch of people who believe the CFA is the be all and end all of Finance. I know just as many people who think it's a complete waste of time. I have my CFA and fall in between those opposing views. If you want to work in asset/wealth management it's fantastic, hell, even mandatory at some firms. Holding a CFA and having that on your CV can be beneficial, but it's not going to make you stand out and get you a job in PE, HF solely because you're a CFA holder. I know a lot of top shops that don't give a shit about the CFA. I now work on the buy-side and my CFA certainly wasn't what got me my job.
.MASSHOLE.But neither will an MBA. The business world is all about connections.
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.MASSHOLE.Undergraduate business degrees outside of accounting are not worth it. Internships play a much more important role in finding a job after school than a business degree.
lIllIWhat has been your experience with potential employers weighing GPA v.s. internship experience? I have heard mixed things from people. From what I can tell GPA is only used as a tie-breaker (in a competitive culture such as the east coast) or if you have zero experience.
.MASSHOLE.GPA should certainly not be discounted. Work to get the best grades you can, but do not fret if you do not have a 4.0. A lot of competitive internships and entry level jobs will have a minimum GPA requirement, but many do not. It depends on the industry and the company. In my experience it is much better to have a diverse resume than a solid GPA with no resume items.
Remember, this is a job you are applying for, you have to interact with your coworkers, those in HR or responsible for hiring want to hire people they can talk and interact with alongside working. It is unlike anything you have ever applied for before. This is not high school or college, the person hiring you could very likely be the person you sit next to or report to at work.
DJtearegasIf I went to lets say, CU Boulder, and got a bachelors in science of business administration, and pulled off a decent GPA, and then worked for a few years, do you think I'd be able to swing it into a top business school where I can network, or are these top schools going to laugh at my alma mater and tell me to take a hike?
lIllII recently interned at a bulge bracket bank, then got a full time offer in private equity. But I turned it down because I'm honestly not interested in pursuing finance.
The reason I ask is because I kicked ass at the internship, got a solid recommendation from them, learned that I can interview well and well-received technical presentations to management in NYC, as well as get along with coworkers in a corporate environment.
Yet, since the internship my GPA has slipped from 3.8 to 3.2 (to be honest, I just stopped caring). Which is why I asked...
crotchventI'm assuming your a senior in high school looking at college for next year. One thing i can suggest to you is that even though your going to want to party and get drunk/high all the time limit the time you do and really focus on school. Screwing up your first semester sucks and can be very hard to recover from and is much easier if you don't fuck it up in the first place.
Peter.also i see youre from the midwest, if youre smart enough, Notre Dame has a top 10 business school year after year, and isn't in a city.
again if you're smart enough, university of michigan has a top 10 business school year after year
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ericacarlson school of mgmt at university of minnesota and lap rails at trollhaugen or hyland
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iFlipTop 10? I think your top 10 is not a real top 10, and is thus crap. The top 10 business schools look like this:
1: Stanford
2: Harvard
3: Northwestern
4: Columbia
5: Dartmouth
6: Chicago
7: UPenn
8: Berkely
9: MIT
10: Cornell
See how that list doesn't even include Yale, Princeton, Brown, NYU, etc? When it comes to business schools, the elite schools truly are king. That name will get you into the Fortune 500, the Fortune 100, etc. It will open doors, get you interviews, internships, and so on. The alumni networks are phenomenal. The career resource centers truly help. The companies that come recruit at the job fairs are the real deal, and are not going to waste their time at state schools.
OP, if you have the grades and accolades to get into a truly top school, you should absolutely do it. The name matters even more than you probably think it does. The education may or not be superior, but the name and resources make it all worthwhile. This is almost certainly more true in the business world than for any other major.
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dickrabbitReally want to pursue a career in business/marketing/sales or maybe even finance. All the schools I've been looking at are in the middle of cites and just don't look like fun campus's. Are there any decent business schools relatively close to any ski areas?
.MASSHOLE.Undergraduate business degrees outside of accounting are not worth it. Internships play a much more important role in finding a job after school than a business degree.
first_rodeoaccountants get recruited to one of the big four.. then hump desks without any career growth.
Go for the finance degree, try to find a school offering business analytics.
DJtearegasWhats wrong with getting a degree in business and then immediately getting an MBA?
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BenWhitIt's really not that far away. I do Stowe a minimum 6x a season and Snow easily another half dozen. Nashoba is great for hot park laps as is Wachusett, who both have great student pass deals.
I don't think you fully understand how difficult it is to get into a Top 10 graduate program.
Spagett+yeah this guy is trolling or just a kid pulling names of colleges he thinks are good out of his ass.
californiagrownThose grad schools are not the cream of the crop?
Spagett+No they are, but he just throws the names around like anyone can get in.
californiagrownHighly successful people tend to be the ones that get in...
