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trouble with tms

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freeskier1316
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I'm deciding on a new ski to get its either going to be the Trouble makers, Trouble maker phil pro, or the pe's. I've got two questions.
one what ski should i get i ski all moutain(pow groomers,trees etc) and do no park.
second what the difference between the Tm's and the Tm phils pro?
Jan 9 2005 10:54PM
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freeskier1316
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little help

Jan 9 2005 11:48PM
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KeegLove
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wait and get the crichtons
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Jan 9 2005 11:50PM
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WIllW
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if you like to grind i DONT recommend any dynastars

but i hear they ski better than pes for normal skiing and jumps


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Jan 9 2005 11:54PM
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WIllW
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sorry im stupid and cant read no park obviously means no rails so id say tms all the way
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Jan 10 2005 12:14AM
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knotbox
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if chrichton had a pro model i so would spit on it



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Jan 10 2005 12:18AM
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Ice-Is-Scary
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If you don't ski park and you only like pow, trees, exc. I would wait for the 'big troubles' to come out.


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Jan 10 2005 12:19AM
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cravenmoorehed
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tms are sick but the edges blow out
Jan 10 2005 4:39AM
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lebro
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yeh true tha edges on tha tm's blow out but tha top sheet on tha pe's cum of afta like a week.
Jan 10 2005 5:46AM
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pat-rickdaigle
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get the PEs

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Jan 10 2005 7:35AM
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gabeski
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I have the TMs and love the ski all around very light and responsive (powder is not ideal)

My roommate has the PEs and they seem a bit heavier, almost the same dimensions though. I think they have a bigger tip on them = better in pow.

You can't go wrong with either one just take into consideration what you will be doing and where you will be skiing.

Jan 10 2005 11:42AM
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NBCskier
Posts: 3877 - Karma: -289
PE's

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Jan 10 2005 11:56AM
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aggro_sk8
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um... why are you geting twins if you ski all powder and trees and arent using them for park.

dont bother with dynastar twins. PEs are better, but id get something like the motherships (if you want twins) if you like dynastars, i just bought a pair of intuitives and they are awsome for ridding, the current equivilent are the dynastar legends. sick skis.

but if you MUST have one of those three skis, get the PEs
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Jan 10 2005 1:55PM
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freeskier1316
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because i build kickers and do jumps and ride switch
Jan 10 2005 6:16PM
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FUUUCK
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get pistols
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Jan 10 2005 6:20PM
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bret
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i think the tm's would be more ideal for a lighter weight rider because they're lighter and poppier and softer. if you're a super agressive or heavy skier you might want the stiffer and heavier PE.

kinda depends on your riding style i guess.




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Jan 10 2005 7:02PM
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french_fry
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yeah id say go for POcket Rockets or scratch BCs, or Armada ARVs which are definetely great all mountain skis too.

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Jan 10 2005 7:06PM
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bibs_skibum
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you know what i hate...when stupid little bastards like ontarioskiingsucks say things like 'get pistols' when its not even in the choices that he has. pick one out of the three fucking dumbass



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Jan 10 2005 7:09PM
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Get the Trouble Makers, because I have them, and they work awsome in all that stuff, including powder. They float okay, but they turn great and I use them when I leave my Maid'N AKs at my cabin. by the way, that carve awsomely on ice, so that's nothing to worry about.

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Jan 10 2005 7:40PM
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bibs_skibum
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tanakaskier...youre the only person that ever posts about my pikachu icon....ever



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Jan 10 2005 8:28PM
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bibs_skibum
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and i love you for it man



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Jan 10 2005 8:29PM
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Ahmets_Brother
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my brother rpped the topsheet off his tms in 2 weeks and destroyed all the edges..they suck
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Jan 10 2005 8:30PM
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Sharpy
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^he must not take care of his skis well, edges will crack if you do stupid things. I have one cracked edge on me TMs and that is my fault, nis, and I took them int othe shop and they are as good as new. There are so many people who have never owned a pair of TMs who just go by what a few disgruntled people say.



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Jan 10 2005 8:35PM
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aggro_sk8
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id say PEs, theyre more durable, i liked the way they ski better too, but i ski hard though
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Jan 10 2005 8:40PM
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Feb 22 2005 6:45PM
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Logchucker
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I run the TMs and love them, decent in powder (10 in At vail and they worked decent), failry stable, and good speed. Overall I have been happy with mine, especially since I am not into to rail

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Feb 22 2005 6:48PM
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JackBach
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I have TM's. I reallllly like them. They are medium-light in weight, awesome flex, great for park, great responsiveness for all mountain skiing. They don't handle THAT great in powder, but if you know how to ski you shouldn't have any problems.

As far as their durability goes, I believe most skis on the market are similar. Some may have a slight advantage/disadvantage. If you smash your skis against metal and concrete, guess what? They get fucked up. I'm sure you realize this.

Anyways, I'd recommend the TMs. My friend has a pair of PEs and he LOVES them. So I'm sure either way you won't be dissapointed. K2 makes good shit.
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Feb 22 2005 6:54PM
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Logchucker
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^Good analysis
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Feb 22 2005 7:09PM
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novel
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publics or wait for the big trouble



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Feb 22 2005 8:23PM
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eastAR5
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i know this doesnt have anything to do with what your sayin but I got some new soft-top tm`s a few weeks ago and i hike rails all day and the edges and base are perfect condition. I dont know what everyone is talking about tm edges ripping out on rails.
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Feb 22 2005 8:32PM
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BumPskiA
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Ski salomon!

1080s in the park Pocket rockets in the pow
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Feb 22 2005 8:42PM
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skitolive123456789
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dynastars are not very durable
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Feb 22 2005 8:51PM
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rockstinger
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The PEs are the best all around ski for what you're looking for. The Tms RULE on hardpack and in the park and pipe, but are a too narrow for true all mountain. Just my opinion. I've skied the TMs and PEs a lot though.
Feb 22 2005 8:55PM
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Aseets
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anybody have any experience yet with the big troubles?


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Feb 22 2005 9:40PM
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KeegLove
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WOW KIND OF IRONIC WITH THE NAME DONT U THINK...TROUBLE MAKERS-TROUBLE..HAHAHAHA
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Feb 22 2005 11:15PM
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SkierJulie
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PEs!!!!!!! edges on the TMs r shit.
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Feb 22 2005 11:50PM
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Tze.C
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I have trouble makers, there sick for park and stuff but if your doing big mountain shit I don't know why you want to get them. You should probably look at seth pistols if that's the kind of skiing your gonna do or some PE's there good all mountain skis.
Feb 22 2005 11:58PM
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JackBach
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Well, the guy said ALL mountain, not BIG mountain--and there's a BIG difference. He wants a ski he can take anywhere, one that is really verstile. Both the PE and the TM are great in that respect, perhaps more so the PE.

Carry on

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Feb 23 2005 10:31AM
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ARski28
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PE's are ill shit

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Feb 23 2005 10:59AM
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pmills
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tm's are a wicked soft ski, id go for a stiffer ski, so if the pe is stiffer go with that
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Feb 23 2005 11:06AM
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Galin
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ya my friend bent the edge of his TMs in like half an inch. He was just doing an s-rail and it was only his 4th day doing rails. He just started them this week.
Feb 23 2005 11:34AM
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JackBach
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^ Something tells me your friend's experience has something to do with bending his edge.
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Feb 23 2005 2:41PM
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skirbrt88
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why the fuck do you want park skis if you arent going to ski any park with them, buy skis designed for what you want to use them for.



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Feb 23 2005 4:23PM
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NBCskier
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tm's are what they are...troublemakers....HAHAHAHA. get it? ok ill shut up





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Feb 23 2005 6:24PM
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hersh
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correct me if im wrong but i think the only diff between the tms and the Belanger pros is the topsheet...if I were you id go with the phil pros
Feb 23 2005 6:32PM
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