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Buttery playful mid fat skis?

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XtRemE11
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I'm looking to add another ski to my quiver this year, I currently have some super fat powder skis, and park skis. Also just bought some 189 surface outsiders purely because they were a crazy good deal, ive skiied them before in 179 and love them, but not really what i was looking for. But it does allow me to go for a more soft buttery ski since the outsiders are a stiff chargy ski.

i'm thinking something around 105-115 to use as an all mountain jib ski, buttering all over the place, popping off everything, all mountain park style stuff. I want a looser more slashy, surfey feel rather than that hooked up strong edge hold feel. which usually means less or no camber underfoot, more rocker. will see hardpack days but will also use them for powder days where i dont feel like using my super fat skis. and for that reason i'd like something that can handle some big drops, and have the length to not get tip dive in deep stuff.

So far ive thought of the moment deathwish in 190, Kartel 106 in 190, shredditor 112, fat-ypus m5 or driddum, kitten factory lazerblades, icelantic nomad rkr, and maybe the pettitor since they have flat camber and big rocker, and similar to hellbents which were awesome.

I'm 5'10 155-165lbs, pretty strong skier for my weight.
any thoughts?
Jul 29 2015 1:15AM
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Skates_skis
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Try the new on3p Jesse in there widest model I am not sure what the width is but it's between 103-108. They are SUPER buttery and playful. I test rode the kartel's and the jesses I preferred the jesse because it's more buttery but I am only 130 lbs
Jul 29 2015 2:21AM
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270on420out
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Fat Y pus L Torro
Jul 29 2015 7:38AM
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.lencon
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Kartels are very fun
Jul 29 2015 10:40AM
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Swandog7
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First 3 that come to mind are Line Blend, ON3P Kartel, Fatypus IL Toro
Jul 29 2015 10:50AM
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XtRemE11
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l toro and blend are a little too narrow, id consider those for a park ski. looking for a little more girth, float in powder, and rocker.
I'm thinking if I go narrower, ill go longer, around 190 or so, if i go fatter, ill go shorter, around 180-85
Jul 29 2015 11:12AM
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tomPietrowski
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Kartels will be great for you. Some people would say they are mid stiff but I find them pretty soft and super playful. They won't be a big charger but that does not sound like what you want. They will rip around though and te large rocker makes them so so playful.
Jul 29 2015 11:50AM
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Swandog7
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XtRemE11l toro and blend are a little too narrow, id consider those for a park ski. looking for a little more girth, float in powder, and rocker.
I'm thinking if I go narrower, ill go longer, around 190 or so, if i go fatter, ill go shorter, around 180-85


Then I would check out the Kartel like what Tom P. said. There is also 2 options on the waist, it sounds like you want the 106.
Jul 29 2015 12:16PM
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.lencon
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tomPietrowskiKartels will be great for you. Some people would say they are mid stiff but I find them pretty soft and super playful. They won't be a big charger but that does not sound like what you want. They will rip around though and te large rocker makes them so so playful.


Yep. I find them mid stiff but I'm also small. But regardless of the actual flex the rocker makes them extremely playful and super fun. Just a real slick ski
Jul 29 2015 2:38PM
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XtRemE11
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I've demoed some filthy riches and I'm definitely a fan of on3p's rocker. So kartels are definitely up there along with the fatypus m5's.
Really interested in the shredditor 112 and kitten factory lazerblades. for a little more of a buttery ski.
Jul 30 2015 6:58PM
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.MASSHOLE.
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Gunsmoke, SFB, new Opus, Peacemaker, Shredditor are all good options. It all depends on your desire for width.
Jul 30 2015 8:19PM
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volklpowder
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glad i found this thread... i'm in the a similar to boat to the OP for different reasons, I have a bunch of stiff sticks for moving fast in big spaces, motherships, katanas, spurs, even some stiffer skinnier skis...

this year i'm looking to add 105-110 mm 184-190 ski, that is not a noodle but not stiff either, but is just a nice smaller radius, easy skiing, fun shape, POPPY and Playful ski, just a ski to take out when you just want to mess around on a softish day or in tighter areas of the mountain, only thing is i don't ski much switch, and certainly don't land switch so super symmetrical isn't huge deal, other than that i just like popping off of stuff, and smushing pillows

kinda thinking:

Sir Francis Bacon
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rocker 2 108

a) thoughts on those above
b) any i'm missing -- i'm afraid the kartel is going to be too stiff-not because i don't like stiff skis its just not what I'm going for here, is it?
Sep 19 2015 1:11AM
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jackdonovan
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volklpowderglad i found this thread... i'm in the a similar to boat to the OP for different reasons, I have a bunch of stiff sticks for moving fast in big spaces, motherships, katanas, spurs, even some stiffer skinnier skis...

this year i'm looking to add 105-110 mm 184-190 ski, that is not a noodle but not stiff either, but is just a nice smaller radius, easy skiing, fun shape, POPPY and Playful ski, just a ski to take out when you just want to mess around on a softish day or in tighter areas of the mountain, only thing is i don't ski much switch, and certainly don't land switch so super symmetrical isn't huge deal, other than that i just like popping off of stuff, and smushing pillows

kinda thinking:

Sir Francis Bacon
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rocker 2 108

a) thoughts on those above
b) any i'm missing -- i'm afraid the kartel is going to be too stiff-not because i don't like stiff skis its just not what I'm going for here, is it?


the rocker would make them not seem stiff and keeps them super playful, I've only heard good things about the Kartels. they can be skied all over and are durable and everything your asking for.
Sep 19 2015 10:57AM
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poonis
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Jskis metal or vacation
Sep 19 2015 7:09PM
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bt@509
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Check out J Skis Vacation. It's described as a futuristic Lizzy and after talking with a rep, that has me really interested. The Lizzies are such a playful and fun ski. It seems like they took everything I love about the Lizzies and blended them with everything I wish the Lizzies had (like a bit of rocker). Anyway, it looks like an interesting ski. Have a look.
Sep 19 2015 9:30PM
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