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? on potential new resort setup: Moment PB&J's w/ Marker Schizo's

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just_the_worst
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I've been riding Rossy S3's for the last 3 years and looking to replace them this year as they have been through quite a bit. Sad to be even thinking about replacing them as they have been a game changer. I put up a thread in April asking all mountain ski suggestions with an emphasis on tree skiing. Mainly though, I am looking for the ski to be:
1) Very responsive for tight trees w/ quick turns,

2) I ski and land switch quite a bit, so I want it to carve and charge well switch. That said, I don't park ski much at all and am not too keen on park specs, but I ski switch pretty hard and really enjoy it. "Why do you ski backwards all the time?".

3) Enough flotation for powder (I ride JJ's on deep days so I don't need too fat of skis looking around the 100-105 range)

With that, I have been reading around and taking in suggestions from my other thread, and I am currently leaning towards:

Moment PB&J's w/ Marker Jester Schizo bindings

Soooooo... what are your guys' thoughts? I've never ridden Marker bindings, so I really don't know much about them. Are they reliable? Are they too heavy? What's their life span? The schizos appeal to me for cruiser and jib days or while waiting for trees to soften up in the spring so that I can center mount and toy around and ski switch then set them back for all the other joys of skiing. I've never ridden a center mounted ski, but I think I would love it for how much I ski switch. BUT of course, I don't want to buy a pair for that alone. Reading reviews on the PB&J's, they sound like they are what I'm looking for. Always looking for more input though!

Also, I'm 6'0" 160lb and ski Colorado if that affects your input.

Much appreciated everyone!
Jul 25 2015 2:27AM
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shin-bang
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from what ive read on blister and such, sounds like theyd do just fine. im sure you will love a center mounted ski, i got my firs one last year and havent looked back. heck i just bought a center mounted pow ski.

as for the schizos, i dont know too much. my friend has them but im not sure how much he actually adjusts them.
Jul 25 2015 12:42PM
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.lencon
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Yo yo, shin-bang gave a solid response. I haven personally ridden them but everyone I've talked to loves them. I'm gonna go ahead and recommend the kartel 106, has a medium-ish turn radius but very slashy and playful so you can get through the trees quick. Love my pair.

As for the shizos, I know just as much as shin-bang, since I'm assuming we're both talking about the same friend who has them. I don't think he ever uses the feature really, and they were on his older skis.

I do however think if the shizos are a solid binder they would work well on something like the kartel. Because the kartels recommend is at -4, but many people ride (including me and team riders) mount them from anywhere from center to -4. Max morello mounted his at center (and took them to Japan) and I mounted mine at -2. Just something to think about, hope I kind of helped
Jul 25 2015 1:30PM
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ghosthop
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I thought they were pretty uninspiring. You might enjoy them because you're a bigger guy and they are somewhat stiff, but I didn't find them to be very lively and at my weight I felt they were not damp enough and got bounced around too much(I'm 120, so not apples to apples). Overall a very meh ski.

If you really liked an S3, I would say to check out the the last iteration (2012-2015) of Line SFB's. I haven't ridden this coming seasons(2015-2016) with the redesign so no comment on those. If you're looking for a stiffer twin, I think the Blizzard Peacemaker is better in every way to a Moment PB&J.
Jul 25 2015 4:37PM
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just_the_worst
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shin-bangas for the schizos, i dont know too much. my friend has them but im not sure how much he actually adjusts them.


.lenconI do however think if the shizos are a solid binder they would work well on something like the kartel. Because the kartels recommend is at -4, but many people ride (including me and team riders) mount them from anywhere from center to -4. Max morello mounted his at center (and took them to Japan) and I mounted mine at -2. Just something to think about, hope I kind of helped


ghosthopIf you really liked an S3, I would say to check out the the last iteration (2012-2015) of Line SFB's. I haven't ridden this coming seasons(2015-2016) with the redesign so no comment on those. If you're looking for a stiffer twin, I think the Blizzard Peacemaker is better in every way to a Moment PB&J.


Much appreciated on the responses!
Going to do some more reading on the Kartels and SFB's. Both sound like solid recommendations based on what you guys said and a quick review of the sticks. Lookin forward to making a decision, they all sound like the makings of some great days. Thanks!
Jul 26 2015 4:18PM
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rozboon
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The Schizo used to be terrible, the bindings would move all over the place within the space of a couple of runs, one minute you would have both skis at +3 and an hour later one would be at 0 and the other one at +5.

I think they have mostly resolved it but to me it's still a bit of a gimmick. It's one of those nice ideas that actually turned out to be a bit of a waste of time - just choose one mount spot and stick with it, I highly doubt you'll be out skiing at +3.5 and thinking "this would be so much better at +4.5". With Schizos you'll probably end up finding a spot you like and just leaving them there 99% of the time, at which point you may as well have saved yourself some weight and money and got the plain Jester.
Jul 26 2015 7:17PM
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cydwhit
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shin-bangfrom what ive read on blister and such, sounds like theyd do just fine. im sure you will love a center mounted ski, i got my firs one last year and havent looked back. heck i just bought a center mounted pow ski.

as for the schizos, i dont know too much. my friend has them but im not sure how much he actually adjusts them.


Well, since you mentioned Blister, here's our review: http://blistergearreview.com/gear-reviews/2011-2012-moment-pbj-188cm-2

Take a look at Andrew's "3rd look" to get a feel for switch performance.

I have yet to get any time on them but I've been itching to for quite a while now, sounds like a really fun ski for exactly what you described.

That said...

I wouldn't go with the schizo just because, as someone already mentioned, there have been durability issues in the past and I honestly just don't see the need. Mount your ski at a good, neutral point and get some more solid binders, you have a pow ski so you shouldn't have to move the mount back too much for flotation on these, maybe put them at -2 or 3 from center and you should be golden.
Jul 27 2015 8:27PM
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