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eheathMike Wilson did the first dub 10s for sure.
Mr.BishopFuck that... schrabs.
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/776566/Adam-Schrab--39-s-Double-Misty
eheathMike Wilson did the first dub 10s for sure.
Mr.BishopFuck that... schrabs.
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/776566/Adam-Schrab--39-s-Double-Misty
HolteI'd say a Risky Flip is just as close to a dub cork 10 as a Wilson Flip, and Rick Wroblewski was doing them in 2001 or 2002. At least a couple years before Mike Wilson at the US Open.
Mr.BishopFuck that... schrabs.
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/776566/Adam-Schrab--39-s-Double-Misty
HolteAnd now, a more exciting post with a video:
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/776567/Risky-flip
TheHamburglarhttps://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/776568/Mike-Wilson-Double-Cork-1080
eheathOkay okay... so we're going to get way too deep here on the cork vs flip discussion, but IMO these arent "dub corks" they're flips.
Schrabs didnt land that shit either BUT he did try first.
The risky flip is that, a flip, im going to establish my opinion here once again, its not a "dub cork"
OP said first dub cork, so I still go with mike wilson
not his first one ever, but they always looked like this, he had that axis on lock years before anyone else even thought about trying it.
**This post was edited on Jul 21st 2015 at 7:09:16pm
Titsandwich11god i hate that liberty ad. im on fast comp/fast connection and it's never played without a buffering pause (god life is tough huh?)
anyway, yeah schrabs did double misties, no dub corks that i know of
so yeah, mike wilson did the dub 10 in ~2004/5, but they didn't really take off until jon olsson started doing kangaroos and then dub 10s a few years later
BUT it's worth noting that a basically identical trick, the risky flip, aka dspin 7 to backy, was thrown by rick robloski (almost certainly didnt get his last name right) around 99 or 2000. it was thrown more straight up but it is definitely the dub 10 of that cycle of skiing trends. after that for a few years dubs were "circus tricks."
check out the risky flip at ~6:10 in this video. it's a re edit of kris ostness's 3 Wind Up Films movies and you should watch the whole thing because it is amazing
https://vimeo.com/15907608
Mr.BishopI actually don't know the date of the double misty... but its a good point to bring up the risky flip. I would say that is just as corked as many of the doubles today. If we're going to start getting harsh on cork vs. flip - we'd have to really examine the modern double and start discounting tonnes of them for being too flippy.
Without dates on the Schrab misty, I have no data to debate. If someone knows it then fantastic.
I've also asked the Schrab brothers to chime in, we'll see if they do.
TheHamburglarhttps://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/776568/Mike-Wilson-Double-Cork-1080
**This post was edited on Jul 21st 2015 at 7:08:56pm
eheathOkay okay... so we're going to get way too deep here on the cork vs flip discussion, but IMO these arent "dub corks" they're flips.
Schrabs didnt land that shit either BUT he did try first.
The risky flip is that, a flip, im going to establish my opinion here once again, its not a "dub cork"
OP said first dub cork, so I still go with mike wilson
**This post was edited on Jul 21st 2015 at 7:09:16pm
jensenIf you wanna go down this road....Wilson's dub is a flip too. It is basically just a double underflip.
HolteAnd now, a more exciting post with a video:
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/776567/Risky-flip
eheathWhat are you talking about? He does a double cork 10 just like everyone does in modern skiing, but in 2006...
jensenLooking at the video from Teddy Bear Crisis, that does look more dub 10. I didn't watch the video before posting. I remember watching the US Open in person way back when and everyone was basically calling it a dub underflip. I still see it in my head as dub under. Someone should post the US Open footage if they can find it.
I would agree though that Wilson's dub 10 in TBC (maybe USO, not sure) looks to be the first true dub 10.
jensenSomeone should post the US Open footage if they can find it.
eheathYeah, that one in TBC was not the first one he did, he did do other dub flips but he did that dub cork 10 at least two years before the tbc video.
HolteI believe Mike Wilson referred to a Wilson Flip as underflip to sw flat 540.
If we're gonna get real ski trick nerdy, and go back to a time when corked meant not-inverted, then I'd put Jacob Wester and Mike Clarke in the running for the first dub corks. Seems like PK had a very early specifically "double cork" rotation too - the one he tossed at every comp the season he lost at X to Dumont's dub front.
DeebieSkeebiesthis has to be one of the greatest shots in all of skiing history. dub cork over the pipe at snowbird waaay before people were even considering doing shit like this. absolutely unreal.
danbrownmike clarke did the dopest dub 12 at nippon open back in like 07 or 08!!!
danbrownmike clarke did the dopest dub 12 at nippon open back in like 07 or 08!!!
brotojust look at how high he is above the bottom of the pipe... insane
DeebieSkeebiesFirst pass through of TBC, i think i rewinded and played this one over and over.
Why dont pipe gaps happen anymore? Someone needs to gap PC'S
DeebieSkeebiesFirst pass through of TBC, i think i rewinded and played this one over and over.
Why dont pipe gaps happen anymore? Someone needs to gap PC'S
PoLaRpEaKBecause pipes are like 3 times the size now.
Mr.BishopFuck that... schrabs.
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/776566/Adam-Schrab--39-s-Double-Misty
eheath3 times is a bit ridiculous, PCs pipe would be perfect to gap, huge inrun, its burried like 5-6 fee down, its completely doable, build up a landing and you're set. But, PC barely does any park shoots anymore and never does stuff after the season is over.
codizzledon't forget Toben Sutherland's flare-to-front in the QP:
https://www.newschoolers.com/watch/48078.5/venus-flytrap-2000
**This post was edited on Jul 23rd 2015 at 4:27:31pm
Mr.BishopNow that I would argue in no way could be considered a double cork. No part of that was corked at all. So I'd put this in the aerials category, which had doubles a very long time ago.
schmiesThe Venus Flytrap!
DeebieSkeebiesthis has to be one of the greatest shots in all of skiing history. dub cork over the pipe at snowbird waaay before people were even considering doing shit like this. absolutely unreal.
auskiAND WE STILL HAVENT SEEN WILSONS GOD DAMN CHADS FOOTAGE PROPERLY!!!
Titsandwich11i posted that above but messed up the embed
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/776834/Clarke-Nippon-Freeskiing-Open-Run---39-08
eheath3 times is a bit ridiculous, PCs pipe would be perfect to gap, huge inrun, its burried like 5-6 fee down, its completely doable, build up a landing and you're set. But, PC barely does any park shoots anymore and never does stuff after the season is over.
HolteI'd say a Risky Flip is just as close to a dub cork 10 as a Wilson Flip, and Rick Wroblewski was doing them in 2001 or 2002. At least a couple years before Mike Wilson at the US Open.
auskiWilson's is a dub underflip. It's no more corked than the risky flip. In fact that risky flip looks like he starts the 2nd flip well before completing the d spin meaning the second 'flip' is more than just a backy. Unreal for the time!!
