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.Hugo.Ive met plenty that didnt mind it and even a few that would throw In a dip themselves every once in a while
McLSFirst off, I didn't realise your allergy was that bad, sorry that it is. Where do you live though? if in the us, people smoke like 20 times less that in France, in here you literally can't walk 100m in the streets without seeing someone smoke.
Now, nothing personal, but if there's one fucking thing I hate, is when non smokers tell me to fucking quit already, and that it's easy, just psychological...just don't do that, stop it. Coming down from a pack a day for a whole year to a cig a month was super fucking hard, and only possible when I didn't have the opportunity to smoke (exam periods, work experience and other periods where I had little time to myslef or with friends). Call it psychological if you want, because sure it is, but it doesn't just work to say hey, I won't smoke again. Been there tried that...So unless i stop going out, stop drinking, stop seeing anyone who smokes, no I can't just quit tomorrow just because I want to.
theabortionatorI smoked for a bit when I was younger. So I'm saying, just quit already. So yes, I'm going to keep saying that because it's true.
Well I guess have fun smoking forever then.
McLSMan I actually thought you were
McLSWell fuck.
I actually thought you were a legit member, I like most of your posts normally. I already told you I'm trying to quit. Battling with tobacco addiction is much harder than you think it is (and no, it's not because you smoked a lil that you know how hard it can get, otherwise you wouldn't be suck a dick). So instead of taking a rather insulting tone on the matter, you could shut the fuck up, or support me, you know if you were a good guy...I know it's bad, I want to stop, I working my way to it. So don't be that dick. nobody likes dicks like you.
theabortionatorI was fully addicted to cigarettes for a few years, for maybe 2 years of that was addicted to dip as well. So I'm not saying I smoked a cigarette once every month so I know how you feel, I smoked. I had quit before, and then started again with work ect. I know how it is.
I was only being a dick because I felt you were being kind of a dick from the first post, then in another you assumed I never smoked(which is fine and sensible giving my current situation) and that I couldn't understand how hard it is. Now you're assuming that I barely smoked and still can't understand how hard it is.
Support you? Support you in what? Making excuses and reasons why you can't quit? I'm being realistic. There will always be a reason to smoke. You're working hard, cravings, you have tests, you have a job interview, somebody else lights up on the chairlift, you're drinking, you see somebody smoking, you find an old pack of smokes, somebody offers you a smoke, etc.
Just saying you're legitimately never going to quit if you use those as excuses, wait for a time when the universe is perfect, you have no stress and then quit.
Idk, call be a dick, whatever man. I hope you quit I really do but there's no magic pill or perfect situation. You aren't going to get through school and then all the sudden it's easy. You still have work, you still have bills, you still have stress. If you want to keep smoking, good for you. If you want to quit, good for you. I'm just saying you just have to do it.
Seriously, shia labeouf that shit. If you get to a month, you're already beyond the biggest hurdles of quiting. Take it day by day, week by week but just do it. Remember how hard those initial first days were for you and that if you light up that cig, you'll be right back there again when you get around to quitting. Carry some gum and candy around with you and get used to saying no if anyone offers you a smoke.
It's all up to you.
McLSWell, thanks for this, and sorry, I didn't imagine you were ever a big smoker due to your current allergy. I know too well that the only way is to stop completely, not do it bit by bit, because whenever you feel bad/stressed, you'll just light another thinking what the hell, one won't make a difference. I've set myself to stop completely in September, right now it's just too hard, and a part of me also wants to enjoy a bit more before I quit definitely...I appreciate your long post, I got carried away a bit too yesterday. I didn't know you could get addicted to dip though, tbh I think dip is illegal in france (the irony, a country where 14 year olds can easily buy a pack of smokes)
theabortionatorYeah it's very addictive. You can get far more nicotine than from cigs. One mountain I worked at we couldn't smoke on the job but could dip, and most of the park crew did. So got into both.
Also I was always chewing on stuff. I used to chew on my shirts when I was a kid and would chew big holes on them. So that was another nice thing about dip. Also I drive a lot long distance. Several 10+ hour drives with some 20+ mixed in as well every once in a while. There was something nice about throwing in some dip and cruising.
I quit a couple times just for the hell of it, then got back into it after a few months but around 4 years ago was like fuck this, I'm quiting.
It's worth it honestly. I still wouldn't mind a dip, but not going to do it ever but I have 0 wish to ever smoke another cigarette.
When it comes down to september you might not want to quit, but if that's the date, then do it regardless. Maybe set a side a few bucks, or use the money that you spent on smokes(if they're at all expensive there) for yourself. Eat some nice food whether you're cooking it for yourself or going out. Def keep gum on hand, a shit ton of gum. Probably buy a bunch before hand and always have some with you. If you feel in any way tempted to smoke just chew some gum. IF you have any hard candy that would be good as well.
If you can get through the first few days, that's the worst of it. After a week you're in pretty good shape. Just have to hang in there and knock out some time.
IF you have to cut down on drinking a bit at the beginning go for it. Or drink inside with friends that don't smoke. IT's just one of those things where there's a good chance it will suck at first, you'll probably was a cig sometimes, even after, but if you don't do it at some point you're never going to do it.
Idk, good luck
dane_wizwillardIt's a physical addiction which makes it worse than heroin, meth, cocaine ect. (don't quote me on that last part i'm pretty sure those ones are mental)
dane_wizwillardI don't think people actually understand how nicotine is something that your brain needs to function properly, and when you force induce it into your blood stream your body stops producing it all together.
theabortionatorWOW
That's all I have to say about that one. Btw you're not even close.
mirozDo you seriously believe this, or did you just not read what you posted?
theabortionatorI mean you can rinse your mouth out. It's not that hard. Smoking is cool but dip is death?
But really they're both horrible for you. I don't fuck with tobacco or tobasco products.
theabortionatorI don't care if my kids smoke but if they choose tobasco I will be disappoint.
Seriously, that shit ruins food.
PoLaRpEaKAnyone who uses tobacco is a complete joke in my eyes.
dane_wizwillardeh I didn't do my reading on that one. I'll own up to that, but it is physical and also take meth out of that entire equation. Way over stepped saying meth.
I'm not sure where or how long ago I read that, regardless I was wrong.
sue me, smokings bad mkay
FirmWormI really enjoy cigars, they taste and smell like candy to me, are they really that bad?
dane_wizwillardI'm not sure where or how long ago I read that, regardless I was wrong.
sue me, smokings bad mkay
Sky.Maybe I'm overly interested in drugs
dane_wizwillardGo take the advice from your first sentence.
Sky.Educate your self before posting something as fact, you are what's wrong with the youth of the civilized world
bnewbs6What I want to know is if cigs like American Spirits really are any "better" for you than the main brands. Everyone knows marlboro and the big brands dump a shit ton of chemicals in their tobacco. American Spirit markets itself as all natural tobacco. But does this mean there is actually no added chemicals, making them any less dangerous for you.
bnewbs6What I want to know is if cigs like American Spirits really are any "better" for you than the main brands. Everyone knows marlboro and the big brands dump a shit ton of chemicals in their tobacco. American Spirit markets itself as all natural tobacco. But does this mean there is actually no added chemicals, making them any less dangerous for you.
onenerdykidCommercial tobacco contains a lot of additives designed to allow you to inhale more, make it taste differently, etc etc so cutting those out is technically less dangerous, yes. But cutting those out from tobacco does not make tobacco actually not dangerous, not at all.[/url]
Burning a normally grown tobacco leaf contains over 7,000 chemicals (such as cyanide, formaldehyde, ammonia) and about 70 carcinogens. Not to mention that nicotine is also classified as a pesticide and burning that is not considered a good thing to do.
Here is a link detailing all of the naturally occurring shit in tobacco smoke:
http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancercauses/tobaccocancer/questionsaboutsmokingtobaccoandhealth/questions-about-smoking-tobacco-and-health-cancer-and-health
If commercial tobacco has 7,500 harmful chemicals in it and natural tobacco has 7,000 yes you can argue that it technically is safer but you would not be correct in saying it is actually safe for you since there is a shit ton of naturally occurring chemicals in tobacco that you can't get rid of.
bnewbs6What I don't understand is if there is so much harmful extra chemicals in there, why hasn't the government intervened and given tobacco companies restrictions on what they can And can't do.
dane_wizwillardhow about quit being an ignorant cunt, and actually read what I posted? I didn't post it as a solid fact, I admitted I was wrong, and yet you go to this length to tell me i'm what is wrong with the youth of this civilized world.
I'm whats wrong with the youth? Were you driving trucks and laying pipe with a bunch of 30 year olds, with a company who won't even take resumes from people who are below 20 years old? I'm 18 and I work about as hard as I fucking can. You're some lazy fucker who doesn't even read what someone posts before attempting to ream them out for it. Fuck you, you lazy ignorant cunt.
EARLYBIRDSdont do drugs smoke weed
Sky.Soo proud to be a rig pig! Have fun when your layed off, I however have a sustainable job, in a sustainable market, fiber optic engineering/fusion splicing. Come at me bro, do you even lift?
Sky.Soo proud to be a rig pig! Have fun when your layed off, I however have a sustainable job, in a sustainable market, fiber optic engineering/fusion splicing. Come at me bro, do you even lift?
