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I feel like with climate change, global tensions, the energy crisis, etc, that the world will reach a breaking point within the next century. I know that humanity will survive, but I feel like our world will be very different shortly. What are your predictions?
I'm going to say yes. The largest planet threatening problem is climate change and I think that eventually humans will figure their shit out and switch to other energy sources. We already have the capability to switch right now. I could see this switch coming late and having adverse effects but I think it will happen sooner or later.
bighomieflockI'm going to say yes. The largest planet threatening problem is climate change and I think that eventually humans will figure their shit out and switch to other energy sources. We already have the capability to switch right now. I could see this switch coming late and having adverse effects but I think it will happen sooner or later.
Just read some interesting new research that looked at giant clam shell and coral chemical composition. It showed that the warming periods in the medieval age and during the roman empire's time weren't localized to Europe as once thought. In fact, global temps were actually around 2 degrees hotter than they are now. What this means is that the warming period we're experiencing currently is actually within natural fluctuations. Might be a complication in the current climate change debate.
Also, not denying climate change here, just saying it's possible that we aren't contributing to it as much as we thought. Doesn't mean we should still be reducing our carbon footprint though.
we would be fine if everyone just sparked up a blunt and lived like animals, small carbon footprint for jimmy who must now chase his prey instead of going to walmart and filling his cart with $4 cuts of cow
daOysterJust read some interesting new research that looked at giant clam shell and coral chemical composition. It showed that the warming periods in the medieval age and during the roman empire's time weren't localized to Europe as once thought. In fact, global temps were actually around 2 degrees hotter than they are now. What this means is that the warming period we're experiencing currently is actually within natural fluctuations. Might be a complication in the current climate change debate.
Also, not denying climate change here, just saying it's possible that we aren't contributing to it as much as we thought. Doesn't mean we should still be reducing our carbon footprint though.
I wouldn't discredit humans causing climate change over that. We are still well exceeding carbon dioxide carrying capacity of our current climate. Caused only by humans. That is interesting, and to respond to the thread I have no worry that our society will remain unchanged for many years. That is because science has a way of correcting many mistakes. Co2 ouputs being one of the big ones. I also think self driving cars will have a huge impact
daOysterJust read some interesting new research that looked at giant clam shell and coral chemical composition. It showed that the warming periods in the medieval age and during the roman empire's time weren't localized to Europe as once thought. In fact, global temps were actually around 2 degrees hotter than they are now. What this means is that the warming period we're experiencing currently is actually within natural fluctuations. Might be a complication in the current climate change debate.
Also, not denying climate change here, just saying it's possible that we aren't contributing to it as much as we thought. Doesn't mean we should still be reducing our carbon footprint though.
There is so much wrong with that study you just posted so I'm not even going to get into it, but you have to be very careful when checking chemicals in water. It's the same problem when creationists try to say one guy once tried to carbon dating muscles, and it wasn't accurate ( carbon dating doesn't work on muscles I don't remember what the reason was, but something about carbon from the limestone gets absorbed) therefore it doesn't work. All that proves is that carbon dating doesn't work on my muscles, I wouldn't discredit climate change because of a shell found in the ocean.
Except they weren't using carbon dating and the chemicals they were checking in the giant clam shells have a pretty good track record for being accurate in telling the climate at the time. Two Chinese studies of local clams by different groups had the same results which they compared with another, earlier European study based on giant clams in that area. They all had agreeing results.
Forgot to add they also were looking at coral samples too. Again, I'm not discrediting climate change, just saying it's possible that the current levels of it aren't as abnormal as we thought.
Ok man take one out of place example, and discredit all the other 100 of pics of scincetific proof. I'm telling you that does not discredit climate change.
nocturnalOk man take one out of place example, and discredit all the other 100 of pics of scincetific proof. I'm telling you that does not discredit climate change.
This is some of the first evidence that earlier heating periods weren't localized to Europe and instead happened on a global scale. Of course this doesn't discredit climate change, it's still getting warmer either way. All this does is possibly discredit the human impact on it and reinforce some old arguments that the heating is following a natural cycle. Again, I'm still for changing our ways, just saying our current processes might not have as large of an impact on the warming as we thought. We're still finding out how things are adapting to the heating in ways we didn't expect and still don't know all the variables in climate change.
daOysterJust read some interesting new research that looked at giant clam shell and coral chemical composition. It showed that the warming periods in the medieval age and during the roman empire's time weren't localized to Europe as once thought. In fact, global temps were actually around 2 degrees hotter than they are now. What this means is that the warming period we're experiencing currently is actually within natural fluctuations. Might be a complication in the current climate change debate.
Also, not denying climate change here, just saying it's possible that we aren't contributing to it as much as we thought. Doesn't mean we should still be reducing our carbon footprint though.
daOysterThis is some of the first evidence that earlier heating periods weren't localized to Europe and instead happened on a global scale. Of course this doesn't discredit climate change, it's still getting warmer either way. All this does is possibly discredit the human impact on it and reinforce some old arguments that the heating is following a natural cycle. Again, I'm still for changing our ways, just saying our current processes might not have as large of an impact on the warming as we thought. We're still finding out how things are adapting to the heating in ways we didn't expect and still don't know all the variables in climate change.
You saying it's probably not as bad as we thought to me, is the exact same thing as denying it, and you're not even posting up any evidence. apparently you just read some vague study from a news article.
bighomieflockI'm going to say yes. The largest planet threatening problem is climate change and I think that eventually humans will figure their shit out and switch to other energy sources. We already have the capability to switch right now. I could see this switch coming late and having adverse effects but I think it will happen sooner or later.
Even if we stopped burning all fossil fuels 10 years ago climate change would still fuck shit up. The crazy thing is we have the technology to reverse it. Look up "hose to the sky". Many people hate the idea of geo-engineering but if we get to the point where we have no other choice, I got not problem with it.
HodorEven if we stopped burning all fossil fuels 10 years ago climate change would still fuck shit up. The crazy thing is we have the technology to reverse it. Look up "hose to the sky". Many people hate the idea of geo-engineering but if we get to the point where we have no other choice, I got not problem with it.
milk_manHumans started using lots of fossil fuels in a short amount of time, and humans will stop using fossil fuels in a short amount of time. That is all.
And I shall start repeatedly slashing you with a machete in a short amount of time, and stop in a short amount of time. I'll still have completely fucked you up and possibly killed you.
milk_manHumans started using lots of fossil fuels in a short amount of time, and humans will stop using fossil fuels in a short amount of time. That is all.
What are you even trying to say? You believe that the earth is 6000 years old, so by your logic we have been using fossil fuel for quite a significant amount of Earth life, according to your belief.
HodorEven if we stopped burning all fossil fuels 10 years ago climate change would still fuck shit up. The crazy thing is we have the technology to reverse it. Look up "hose to the sky". Many people hate the idea of geo-engineering but if we get to the point where we have no other choice, I got not problem with it.
That's some next level snow making ability. But I'd still rather our governments act on climate change rather than acting after the fact when we've fucked up the earth.
Seeing as we're in the middle of the 6th mass-extinction event we won't last must longer. Humans are main cause of the dying out of many species over the last centuries which has been sped up with climate change. Our society will die out as the Earth heals itself. http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20121101-a-looming-mass-extinction
