Is NS dying?

nah we just all have lives and shit.

work work work

fish fish fish

the most ive seen in the past 6 months is like 120

There's just nothing stimulating or cool anymore for me. I had to give up skiing, and then the other forum subjects are mostly dead or a bashfest amongst supposed experts in everything. I still get on a lot just to check but I don't stay too long.

NSG certainly is

SKI.INGThere's just nothing stimulating or cool anymore for me. I had to give up skiing, and then the other forum subjects are mostly dead or a bashfest amongst supposed experts in everything. I still get on a lot just to check but I don't stay too long.

The forum could be dying I'll give you that, but the news content and the videos/picture in the media (snapchat, instagram, tumblr) keeps growing and getting better, so I guess its not really dying as a whole its just the website that is getting lower traffic I guess.

I think the younger generations are not very used to the forums its just that. With Snapchat, Instagram, Facebook and all the other social medias, the forums are looking very slow and kinda outdated so I guess It would make sense that the people are moving away from them

As for me the feeling of talking and meeting people through a forum is way more real than any other social media, so I don't have the intentions to leave any soon.

yea I've noticed that too. In past years a weekday evening could easily have 200+ members online. These past few months 150 is high. below 100 is normal. SUmmer might not be helping, but the summer numbers in the past have still definitely been way higher than these days.

I mean 9pm EST on a Wednesday would easily have 150-200 a couple years ago. Now I'm seeing 68. THose are 6am numbers.

They killed it when they had that month of over zealous moderation

its pretty sad but its in to way dying for me. this is the site closest to my heart, its what gets through the long summer and the countless school days when im parched by lack of ski-stuff. i love this site and i dont intend on letting it die anytime soon

cool_nameThey killed it when they had that month of over zealous moderation

Lol I remember that

But back to op. I really feel the same way. I haven't been on ns very long do I really don't know if things ger this slow in the summer. And I do understand about jobs and all that as I have spent less and less time on here the last week or so. Hopefully things get fired back up eventually

.frenchywork work work

fish fish fish

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Been on NS now for 8 years almost every single day...definitely slowing down a bit compared to what it used to be. Perhaps we have peaked in terms of the number of freeskiers who frequent forums of this sort.

There were definitely times where the last post of every thread on the first page was less than 3 hours. Looking right now there's a 14 hour old post on the first page.

cool_nameThey killed it when they had that month of over zealous moderation

Yup part of it.
A handful of nsg members catching up with the latest E trends and.... ZOMGZZ NS IS TURNING INTO 4CHAN

.frenchywork work work

fish fish fish

Work

masturbate over Frenchy

sleep

repeat

KravtZBeen on NS now for 8 years almost every single day...definitely slowing down a bit compared to what it used to be. Perhaps we have peaked in terms of the number of freeskiers who frequent forums of this sort.

Been a contributing member for 6, discovered the site for videos 8 years ago. Like you, since I discovered the forum and actually made an account Ive been on nearly every single day. I wouldn't say its slowed, more like the immature crowd has drove of the mature crowd. Whats sad is the mature crowd always had the best threads/posts and made NS more enjoyable. Nowadays we have these retard, idiot kids who make 1,000 aliases and whose idea of trolling is making threads titled "I smoke weedz, or Boobies" and such, with no effort, content, humor, or substance. I feel like the older members just don't give a fuck about NS anymore because of it.

Also I do think the excessive moderation plays a part. Honestly when I joined you could get away with far more than you can now. I get it, NS is trying to grow as a business and a brand and that means attracting younger members but in the process they have alienated the ones that have been around since its inception, installing all these new rules that didn't exist 5,6,7,8 years ago. The OG members made this site what it is, these younger ones are ruinging it.

At the end of the day NS has played a huge part in my life. I've made friends here I would never have met in the real world. I get a lot of "wordly information" from this site. But it has changed and in a lot of instances for the better, but IMO the forum is the heart and soul, and in that regard its only been a downward slope.
Oh well, Im half drunk anyways and am sure I make no sense but thats just how I feel at this point in time.

I gave up on NS for a bit but have decided to re-emerge into the ski community.
The transition into adulthood is expensive and I haven't been doing much skiing in the last few years. :(

A dumb thread I made is on the front it takes 2 up votes to get to the front. :(

brett_fisherA dumb thread I made is on the front it takes 2 up votes to get to the front. :(

Perfect example of a worthless member

yes

cool_nameThey killed it when they had that month of over zealous moderation

month?

Granite_StateBeen a contributing member for 6, discovered the site for videos 8 years ago. Like you, since I discovered the forum and actually made an account Ive been on nearly every single day. I wouldn't say its slowed, more like the immature crowd has drove of the mature crowd. Whats sad is the mature crowd always had the best threads/posts and made NS more enjoyable. Nowadays we have these retard, idiot kids who make 1,000 aliases and whose idea of trolling is making threads titled "I smoke weedz, or Boobies" and such, with no effort, content, humor, or substance. I feel like the older members just don't give a fuck about NS anymore because of it.

Also I do think the excessive moderation plays a part. Honestly when I joined you could get away with far more than you can now. I get it, NS is trying to grow as a business and a brand and that means attracting younger members but in the process they have alienated the ones that have been around since its inception, installing all these new rules that didn't exist 5,6,7,8 years ago. The OG members made this site what it is, these younger ones are ruinging it.

At the end of the day NS has played a huge part in my life. I've made friends here I would never have met in the real world. I get a lot of "wordly information" from this site. But it has changed and in a lot of instances for the better, but IMO the forum is the heart and soul, and in that regard its only been a downward slope.
Oh well, Im half drunk anyways and am sure I make no sense but thats just how I feel at this point in time.

I think shitty trolling is driving off even more kids then adults. Say some kid who has no experience with forums joins and makes a repost in SG, everyone shits on them in weird sarcastic ways and the poster is left confused and will probably be to scared to participate in the forums again. That was probabaly a bad example but at least a couple years ago the general response was repost, and that was only for the most obvious shit like repeating a thread that was already on the first page.

hippy.Trap trap trap

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yeah been around for bout 6 years now, we need ar6rider asian-allen etc to come back and for shin-bang and shit to stop posting threads that just say deez nuts or whatever the fuck

the mods fuckin suck, delete all the funny threads and posts because some kid got called a fucking faggot but leave the shittiest attempts at trolling ever

i've been havin a shitty day and sound like the crustiest old bastard, ha

theabortionatormonth?

Tbh I can't remember exactly when, I think around a year ago though. When the mods would ban you for even being slightly mean to somebody, now everyone is just nice to each other and it is boring. What we need to do is bring back op's mom jokes

Idk though, I mainly just post and read the post what's on your mind thread now, rarely look nsg now, just my threads then pwoym then leave

cool_nameTbh I can't remember exactly when, I think around a year ago though. When the mods would ban you for even being slightly mean to somebody, now everyone is just nice to each other and it is boring. What we need to do is bring back op's mom jokes

I meant that there was a period far longer than that. Also it all comes in cycles. That said I don't think a lot of those members are coming back.

Also the trolling now is retarded. As granite mentions just making aliases to be like hur hur, I said penis, hur hur.

Idk, trolling isn't even fun unless it's called for. It's kind of dead anyway.

I just want to read some things about some stuff, post some things about some stuff, and leave.

It is what it is. NS isn't going anywhere, but times are changing. The world is a different place. In a year or so well be skiing in space domes.

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I don't really get what you're saying? What's wrong with the way it's set up?

As far as the upvote and downvotes that shits new anyway. And I don't think it's turning off new members because there were times if you posted something stupid you'd get quoted a million times and know damn well about it.

Idk, the sites pretty welcoming imo.

I mean NS is always tweaking stuff but I don't feel they need to try to change their image.

NS is NS


yolo

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Idk, I remember in 05 hating on everything a bit and thought it was setup shitty and didn't make an account. Now I feel like it's one of the more well set up boards honestly.

I guess it's just personal preference.

And NS def is a dick measuring contest. But I hear what yur sayin. I wish the fucking cults would come back.

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It's a viscous cycle, the lack of new members makes it boring and it being boring makes for a lack of new members

theabortionatorIdk, I remember in 05 hating on everything a bit and thought it was setup shitty and didn't make an account. Now I feel like it's one of the more well set up boards honestly.

I guess it's just personal preference.

And NS def is a dick measuring contest. But I hear what yur sayin. I wish the fucking cults would come back.

I joined just over a year ago, and at the time I thought it absolutely was the shittiest forum structure I'd ever seen. Now I am in love with it; it's so simple, user-friendly, and efficient. Every new feature they add to it is fucking awesome

Can't speak to the life or death of NS as I'm just a lowly fucking pleb here, but I think in my experience with other boards there are always cycles. Peaks and valleys and shit

Peeps ran out of shit to say not much more to it its summer.

MCsugarcatPeeps ran out of shit to say not much more to it its summer.

But it's been like been dead since early feb. I guess maybe global warming has hit the internet?

nah I disagree. First, this season was shit in terms of snow which may have impacted the number of people here, plus we're right before actual summer so it's normal we have far less people on and no good summer threads yet.

But tbh, NS has never been so good, it's just this fucking generation of whiny nostalgic (without even having been there from the start) dickheads that partially ruins NS. Content is dope af, more news than ever, more videos, more pics, more sub forums, more collabs, new programs, I'm in love with NS, you just gotta take what's good and leave the negativity behind.

McLSnah I disagree. First, this season was shit in terms of snow which may have impacted the number of people here, plus we're right before actual summer so it's normal we have far less people on and no good summer threads yet.

But tbh, NS has never been so good, it's just this fucking generation of whiny nostalgic (without even having been there from the start) dickheads that partially ruins NS. Content is dope af, more news than ever, more videos, more pics, more sub forums, more collabs, new programs, I'm in love with NS, you just gotta take what's good and leave the negativity behind.

amen, so many people lurk this site as well. I lurked this site for years before I joined, because I didn't have a reason to part take in the forum aspect of things. Half the time im on this site now i'm not even logged on.


It's also summer


it's also a forum site like honestly what's the point of even posting on here anyways? It's fun but i'll give u +k if you give me a legit reason you're here.

dane_wizwillardamen, so many people lurk this site as well. I lurked this site for years before I joined, because I didn't have a reason to part take in the forum aspect of things. Half the time im on this site now i'm not even logged on.


It's also summer


it's also a forum site like honestly what's the point of even posting on here anyways? It's fun but i'll give u +k if you give me a legit reason you're here.

Yes, I normally post like once out of 5 or more threads I look at. And spend over half the time off the forums. As for non ski gabber? I think the only real purposes of this section is to keep trolls off the serious sections, have a place where we can all talk without spamming the sg in summer, and also because every once in a while it's interesting to hear what fellow freeski lovers think about a world issue. But yeah i hadn't even looked at nsg more than 10 times this whole year until a few days ago.

Bound to happen, I mean park skiing is already getting boring. People who can throw down are becoming more and more common. When I started lurking we were still being wowed by 9's. Your average joe at Breck and Mammoth seems to have a few doubles in his bag of tricks, the average rail game is absurdly good, and competition runs are becoming so commonly clean it's hardly even exciting watching.

It's gone from "Will he land it?!?! Did he just try that?!?!?" to: "Oh, he had a sketchy landing on the dub 12"

The skiing content is still good but the fun is definitely gone. The forums have turned into a bunch of stupid memes that 5% of the site thinks are funny and everything else is some never-ending serious debate about some issue nobody should care about.

There's a couple of things at play here.

First off, forums everywhere on the internet are suffering massively as the new generation simply on boards with twitter, snapchat, instagram, facebook - whatever new platform is the flavor of the week. They are able to completely tune their experience, and ignore anyone they don't like. The setup of a forum is simply less appealing to the new generations. They don't want to deal with your trolling bullshit, so they take one look at this cliquey exclusive club and go back to snapchatting their buddies. Its across the board that this is happening, forums are not the #1 form of social discussion anymore.

Second - The fucksticks drove the new people away. As point #1 took hold, the amount of 'freedom' you were given in NSG let a tiny fraction of guys make absolutely every new member hate the experience. Many people feel that the over-abundance of moderation 'killed' the place, but I assure you this is just the beginning of re-growth. As some of you have stated, the actual funny people who had intelligent and thoughtful conversation that 'made this place tolerable' were driven out by the ones who just wanted to ruin everyone else's day. The way back to this type of a member is through being stricter - not looser. We need to foster a certain level of discussion - and even a certain quality of trolling - if we are to see a return of people who are interesting.

Third - The part of Newschoolers that is flourishing is the content. We have created a completely open content system, where anyone has a chance to get started. They earn points upon their first upload, and if they get enough they are invited to new opportunities, the ability to make money, the ability to earn paying jobs with the company and experience in an industry that will take what you've learned on here and hire you full-time in media. We have put an enormous amount of effort in transitioning Newschoolers from being a conversation-based community to a content-based one. This above an beyond else is where to look at growth on the site. The results out of this system have been utterly mind-blowing and its only going up from here.

Fourth - The mobile phone has really harmed the forum experience. Forums are designed at their core to be a long-format discussion engine, and sitting there hammering on your phone does not lead to this being a super pleasurable experience. Simply the act of typing on a touchscreen greatly reduces the users' desire to engage in thoughtful conversation above a few quips or upvotes.

That being said - I do know we need to do a lot to increase the pleasure of using the mobile experience. We're in the process of enacting an absolutely massive change which is going to totally revolutionize the mobile experience of Newschoolers over the next few months - and then allow for major overhauls within the next year.

Lastly, the experience of mobile has led a lot of people to only check things when notified on their device. Gone are the days where users endlessly cycled through specific sections to check what is new. This is a prime reason why we built the alerts system, to create the building blocks of what will allow us to push out notifications for what is happening that you care about vs. simply checking everything every day.

So no - Newschoolers is by no means dying. It is going through a major re-birth, which started many years ago and is a natural cycle of the internet as technologies and user habits change.

Remember for a lot of people talking about the 'glory days' - the iPhone was only invented in 2007. Facebook only got popular in 2010 or so, and there was no instagram, no snapchat, no twitter, etc for many years afterwards. NS was the only game on the block if you wanted to talk to skiers, so obviously it was insanely active then.

This place will be different when all the dust settles from this, but there is no doubt in my mind that its going to be even more awesome than it ever was.

pretty much all of this, social media takes up your lives, no time left for forums.

Mr.BishopThis is a prime reason why we built the alerts system, to create the building blocks of what will allow us to push out notifications for what is happening that you care about vs. simply checking everything every day.

Not sure if you guys have realised yet but you get alerted if you quote your own post

Mr.BishopThere's a couple of things at play here.

First off, forums everywhere on the internet are suffering massively as the new generation simply on boards with twitter, snapchat, instagram, facebook - whatever new platform is the flavor of the week. They are able to completely tune their experience, and ignore anyone they don't like. The setup of a forum is simply less appealing to the new generations. They don't want to deal with your trolling bullshit, so they take one look at this cliquey exclusive club and go back to snapchatting their buddies. Its across the board that this is happening, forums are not the #1 form of social discussion anymore.

Second - The fucksticks drove the new people away. As point #1 took hold, the amount of 'freedom' you were given in NSG let a tiny fraction of guys make absolutely every new member hate the experience. Many people feel that the over-abundance of moderation 'killed' the place, but I assure you this is just the beginning of re-growth. As some of you have stated, the actual funny people who had intelligent and thoughtful conversation that 'made this place tolerable' were driven out by the ones who just wanted to ruin everyone else's day. The way back to this type of a member is through being stricter - not looser. We need to foster a certain level of discussion - and even a certain quality of trolling - if we are to see a return of people who are interesting.

Third - The part of Newschoolers that is flourishing is the content. We have created a completely open content system, where anyone has a chance to get started. They earn points upon their first upload, and if they get enough they are invited to new opportunities, the ability to make money, the ability to earn paying jobs with the company and experience in an industry that will take what you've learned on here and hire you full-time in media. We have put an enormous amount of effort in transitioning Newschoolers from being a conversation-based community to a content-based one. This above an beyond else is where to look at growth on the site. The results out of this system have been utterly mind-blowing and its only going up from here.

Fourth - The mobile phone has really harmed the forum experience. Forums are designed at their core to be a long-format discussion engine, and sitting there hammering on your phone does not lead to this being a super pleasurable experience. Simply the act of typing on a touchscreen greatly reduces the users' desire to engage in thoughtful conversation above a few quips or upvotes.

That being said - I do know we need to do a lot to increase the pleasure of using the mobile experience. We're in the process of enacting an absolutely massive change which is going to totally revolutionize the mobile experience of Newschoolers over the next few months - and then allow for major overhauls within the next year.

Lastly, the experience of mobile has led a lot of people to only check things when notified on their device. Gone are the days where users endlessly cycled through specific sections to check what is new. This is a prime reason why we built the alerts system, to create the building blocks of what will allow us to push out notifications for what is happening that you care about vs. simply checking everything every day.

So no - Newschoolers is by no means dying. It is going through a major re-birth, which started many years ago and is a natural cycle of the internet as technologies and user habits change.

Remember for a lot of people talking about the 'glory days' - the iPhone was only invented in 2007. Facebook only got popular in 2010 or so, and there was no instagram, no snapchat, no twitter, etc for many years afterwards. NS was the only game on the block if you wanted to talk to skiers, so obviously it was insanely active then.

This place will be different when all the dust settles from this, but there is no doubt in my mind that its going to be even more awesome than it ever was.

I can't even read one of those paragraphs let alone all of them.

advertising is the answer

hippy.Trap trap trap

hey i quickscoped u last night xD

Websites can't die. Especially one with so many llamas and so much steeze

I used to be a forum rat, still am a bit but I don't post quite as much. It is true that there are fewer interesting threads than there once were, but that's ok.

Like Bishop said, the content is becoming prioritized. Look at how many views, comments, shares, etc occur with anything that appears on the front page. The front page is where I go to now. I love reading articles, watching vids, looking at pics, entering and voting on contests. Go to any action sports magazine website and look at the feedback there, I bet it isn't even close to having the support that NS does for content. A perfect example of this is http://www.wakeboardingmag.com/ which I visited a week ago. So much cool shit going on with no feedback from people, no comments, nothing. NS is far from dead.

meh I have gone from a post whore to maybe posting once every couple weeks. Hell, the only thread I really check is post whats on your mind. I don't know if it's because i'm just super busy, other interests, shittier members, or the fact that the newschoolers facebook is whoring itself out. I still check ns everyday, but its just getting less interesting. I'd rather go to the SLAP forums where its actually interesting...

Spagett+I can't even read one of those paragraphs let alone all of them.

tl;dr - Newschoolers is changing from a conversation-based community to a content-based community. Forums are dying off at the ruthless hand of mobile phones and an abundance of social media platforms.

dgravesmeh I have gone from a post whore to maybe posting once every couple weeks. Hell, the only thread I really check is post whats on your mind. I don't know if it's because i'm just super busy, other interests, shittier members, or the fact that the newschoolers facebook is whoring itself out. I still check ns everyday, but its just getting less interesting. I'd rather go to the SLAP forums where its actually interesting...

Two questions:

1. Go more in depth to what you mean about "the newschoolers facebook is whoring itself out"

2. What is more interesting about the SLAP forums?